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Male friend being too clingy

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conversationdiva · 13/02/2016 17:48

I recently went out for coffee with an old workmate from a couple of years ago. We've always been friendly and stayed in touch through social media and he's been feeling a bit down recently as his long term girlfriend has left him for someone else. I see him as a friend and that's always been very clear but over the past week or so he's been behaving in a way that has worried me.

We met for a catch up in a coffee shop after not seeing each other for a while, and talked about what we'd been up to, we spoke about work, friends, a bit about his past relationship and he mentioned that he sometimes sees my ex partner (they went to primary school together). He asked me in conversation if I was still single or was I seeing anyone and I said truthfully that I'm dating but I'm not in a relationship. I left thinking nothing more of it, just that it had been a nice catch up with an old work friend.

That evening he began sending texts asking me when we could go out again, he texted me his complete availability, his exact work hours etc and I found that a bit strange so I just said I'd contact him later on as I'm busy for the next week or so.

The next day I got a text asking me if I'd like to go to Paris with him because he'd seen that there was a concert there featuring a musician I liked (I'd mentioned I was a fan of the musician during our meeting and he'd obviously remembered.) I said no but at the time, I thought it was really inappropriate.

What followed were several attempts to meet up - him sending texts saying "I know you're busy but if you have any free time at all you can see me!" Him inviting me to his house for pizza and a film, to the cinema, out for a meal and each time I said no as it felt odd, like he was trying to use me as a replacement for his ex girlfriend. I said that he should focus on getting over the breakup and he guilt tripped me - "it's just been nice having someone to speak to, I'm sorry if you feel pestered..."

This week I've been getting texts at 7am or late at night every other day asking me if I want to meet up for another coffee, commenting on things he's seen posted on my social media etc. He went through one of my accounts and 'liked' every single picture of me (and there are only a handful of pictures of me on there, most of them are of scenery or animals or art/music so he would have to had gone through the whole thing to find them.)

Today I've just been ignoring his texts as I don't feel well and he's making me feel uncomfortable. He kept texting things like '???' when I didn't answer his first 2 messages, then switched to WhatsApp asking me to meet him, to which I replied that I'm busy all week and not to contact me. I thought about blocking him on everything but I would feel quite bad doing that and he lives nearby so I would probably still bump into him.

Sometimes I feel that I'm too nice to people and they take advantage. I'm not going to reply to this person again but it's starting to feel like harrassment. I've never given him any signals to 'lead him on' or whatever, I just viewed him as a friend but I feel like the situation is getting out of control.

OP posts:
conversationdiva · 14/02/2016 10:23

Oh God.

This morning I received a delivery of pink roses. There's a note attached with a poem ending 'I just want you to know I think the world of you. Love from your secret admirer xxx'

It's him isn't it? I can't think of anyone else it would be. I've just left them in the hall. This is freaking me out. I think I have no choice now but to block him on everything as its way over the top.

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MadisonMontgomery · 14/02/2016 10:29

You are going to have to be really really blunt. I had something similar from someone I met online dating - I kept being nice & saying that I wasn't interested - he took ANY message as encouragement. I had to just say leave me alone - I'm blocking you - before he got the hint.

DoreenLethal · 14/02/2016 10:34

I'd text him 'I am not at all into you. I would have thought you would have guessed that but just to be clear; stop harassing me. The roses were a step too far so I will be blocking you from all forms of communication. If you continue to harass me, I will be taking this further.'

goodnightdarthvader1 · 14/02/2016 10:41

Block him by all means, but before you do, make sure it's clear that you want no further contact. If you say nothing, it makes it easier for him to pretend there's just been a "misunderstanding".

MagicalMrsMistoffelees · 14/02/2016 10:42

This is waaaaaay too much. It's bordering on obsessive. I'd feel quite intimidated if this was happening to me.

I would delete and block everywhere. Not sure if I'd send a text message first to ask him to leave me alone - he doesn't sound rational so it'd probably be a waste of time.

Hissy · 14/02/2016 10:54

Oh love. :( this isn't good.

Although I suppose the valentine day thing is what's provoked this.

Leave the flowers where they are.

I know you have already told him not to contact you, but now you must repeat this AND mention police action if he contacts you in any way again.

Remove him from social media FB etc.

DoreenLethal · 14/02/2016 11:11

Not sure if I'd send a text message first to ask him to leave me alone - he doesn't sound rational so it'd probably be a waste of time.

If you want to take it a step further to get someone to stop harassing you, I believe that they will say 'have you actually told them to stop harassing you'. If you say 'I have been advised to tell you to stop harassing me' it can stop them in their tracks as their victim has actually sought advice on the topic.

AyeAmarok · 14/02/2016 11:25

I'd text back

"You haven't upset me, but to be honest you're demanding way too much of my time and it's making me feel very uncomfortable and stressed out."

Don't feel bad. When people pester like this they do know they are doing it. They are trying to force you to reply to them when they know you're not keen.

I'm like you, I'd feel bad trying to turn him down and try to do it politely, which wouldn't work because these people don't take hints, they just steamroller over you until they get their way.

Don't feel bad about drawing boundaries for yourself. Everyone should be allowed to comfortably state their boundaries. He is intentionally overstepping "normal" boundaries so don't feel as though it's you in the wrong.

Branleuse · 14/02/2016 11:32

text him that you think hes got completely the wrong end of the stick, that you liked him as a friend, but nothing more and never will, and to please chill out with the pestering as its starting to make you feel uncomfortable.

Sounds like hes fallen in love with you, which isnt a crime obviously, so I wouldnt call it stalking at this stage. Its pretty culturally normal for a man to feel like he has to do the persuing, but you need to make it absolutely clear youre not interested, and if he still carries on, then thats another story

Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 14/02/2016 11:38

If he's a nice bloke, could you introduce him to any single friends?

Why would you do the to a friend?

Have you any enemies??

liberatedwine · 14/02/2016 11:46

I would text a brief thanks for the roses, followed by BUT this has to stop right now, you must realise I am not interested in seeing you again, and you need to back off.

Then block him on everything.

Hissy · 14/02/2016 11:50

I replied that I'm busy all week and not to contact me.

That is enough for a normal person to say, "whoops, sorry, I misunderstood" and not contact you again.

To reply with "have i upset you?" Is just him trying to further engage and override your clear request.

Did you text him and tell him straight? I don't think you seem to have - which is fine/understandable, I'd have done the same tbh, just hoped he'd get the hint.

The flowers, did he deliver them/leave them personally? A florist would have got proof of delivery I think.

That's creepy.

You do now need to send the ftfo message. SolidGoldBrass posted the recognised wording earlier I think

AyeAmarok · 14/02/2016 12:06

Branleuse's wording is really good, I think.

I think if you don't send that you're going to get a message saying "have you had a good day? Did you get anything for Valentines".

conversationdiva · 14/02/2016 12:20

Thank you for your replies.

The flowers were delivered by the courier from the shop he bought them from. It makes me feel awful that he's done this as I think he has completely misunderstood and is blindly carrying on with what he thinks will become a relationship.

Hissy, I composed a very blunt text yesterday but then felt bad so changed it a bit to a nicer version saying that I didn't want to speak to him. He replied quite late at night with "ok goodnight and hopefully we can talk tomorrow" and I ignored it. I'm just too worried about hurting people's feelings but I understand now that I need to be blunt.

I might wait until he contacts me today to ask about Valentines/whether I received flowers then I will ask him outright if he sent them. I don't want to text first as if he then says he didn't send them, then it'll be awkward. I am 99 per cent sure it was him though, as I'm not seeing anyone at the moment and his behaviour has been very full on recently. When he gets in touch, I will say something like liberatedwine suggested and then block him. I'm also wondering how he got hold of my exact address, as he knew the road name but not the number.

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TealLove · 14/02/2016 12:31

V worrying
Please block it off now. Say nothing about the flowers.
I feel for the guy but I think he's in a bad place from his break up. He has no right to put that onto you.

FullMoonDiva · 14/02/2016 12:38

I would take the bull by the horns and text him first-mainly so that you take control back of this situation. You don't have to be rude but from experience being careful how you word it to ensure he can't claim to have 'misunderstood' is the forward. For me it would be along the lines of
'hi xxxx, bit awkward but I'm hazarding a guess that the flowers delivered today were from you, whilst I appreciate the thought I cannot accept them as its becoming clear that you have misinterpreted my friendship with you as something more. The texts and demands for my time are making me uncomfortable and whilst I appreciate your having rough time at the minute I cannot offer you what you want from me as I don't have any feelings in that way towards you. I think it's best I take a step back from the situation so would appreciate that you stop contacting me. I wish you well. Diva'

Hissy · 14/02/2016 12:54

Ok... You told him not to contact you before.

He sent flowers.

You said you didn't want to talk to him and he says "ok, maybe we'll talk tomorrow"

He doesn't officially know your address but had tracked you down.

Love, this is 101 territory.

Call and explain this all to them and let THEM get the blunt message across.

I had a weirdo keep contacting me once, I never replied.

Eventually he sent me a text saying "HELP" so I called 101, explained that I thought it was a waste of time and a ruse to get me over there, but that I didn't want anything to do with him.

The police went over, he texted me "police have just left, sorry to have inconvenienced you"

Even then re dropped off a token gift id given him when we were seeing each other. I'd never invited him to my home. He knew where I lived, but just because he worked in the village, not because I'd given the address. It freaked me out. I called 101 again (not texting him either, I'd told him I didn't want anything more to do with him previously as he'd stonewalled me twice)

Police saw him again and explained it to him. He still came up with some prickish reply to them.

18m went by.. I got a FB message telling me he was emigrating to Australia ... Still no reply, only block.

We were never FB friends, it never got that far.

You have to get the police to crack his nut now.

AyeAmarok · 14/02/2016 12:56

Don't wait until he texts you, you're just trying to put it off Smile And don't mention the flowers.

The longer you put it off, the more it will hang over you and stress you out. Take charge of the situation and send the message and I promise you will feel so much better.

If it makes you feel better, it's much kinder to tell him sooner so you don't give him false hope. And kinder to be clear, rather than a wishy-washy "I'm not looking for a relationship at the moment" which he'll take as "she might in another month or so, I'll keep trying".

ThatsNotMyRabbit · 14/02/2016 13:05

If he asks whether you got anything for Valentine's Day say "Yes I got some flowers delivered. Really creepy; I hate things like that. Bit worried that some desperate weirdo has got my address".

Hissy · 14/02/2016 13:10

No contact. Police. He needs a wake up call.

I know but sounds extreme, but he's not listening to very clear communications

liberatedwine · 14/02/2016 13:57

ThatsNotMyRabbit that is the PERFECT response! No room for misunderstanding whatsoever. Star

goodnightdarthvader1 · 14/02/2016 14:08

You're being too polite, OP. None of this "oh, you haven't upset me but" or "thanks for the flowers but" or "hmm, flowers from some desperate weirdo"* bullshit. He doesn't need the bad news delivered in "shit sandwich" form, he needs a wake up call.

The fact that he said "maybe we can talk tomorrow" indicates to me that he thought you would get the flowers and melt. You need to tell him clearly and concisely NOW that you are not interested in a romantic relationship, you are not interested in being friends, he has overstepped your boundaries and you want not further contact from him EVER. That is clear enough that if he continues you can then go to the Police and there will be no victim-blamey confusion.

You're still doing the "polite conditioned woman" thing. Time to stop before he gets even worse.

*I say no to the "desperate weirdo" thing because he will turn it around in his head to mean "OH, she thinks they're from some weirdo! Once she realises they're from ME, she'll love them! She's knows I'M not a weirdo. Phew, just a misunderstanding."

stumblymonkey · 14/02/2016 14:11

I think it's time for that blunt message...

"I don't want to hurt your feelings however I get the sense that you're looking for a lot more out of this friendship than I am. I just want to be 100% clear so that there are no misunderstandings: it was nice to catch up over a coffee as friends/previous work colleagues and we can catch up again in a few months...I'm not looking to form a more intense friendship with you than that."

OTheHugeManatee · 14/02/2016 14:25

Why can't you just ring him and tell him you don't want a relationship with him? All this 'wait for him to text...rephrase the text so it's nicer...' business is just going to feel like mind games to him. Like part of the chase. You're giving out completely the wrong signals! Phone him, tell him you are not interested in a relationship with him. If he protests, say it again.

Beating around the bush isn't 'nicer' or 'kinder', it's stringing him along. You're not doing it intentionally - women are socialised to pranny about mincing their words so as not to appear unkind, but it really isn't kinder to leave the guy thinking he's in there. And it's stressing you out.

Phone him up. Ask him if he sent the flowers. Tell him you don't want to go out with him. It's really the kindest thing to do, for everyone.

If he still persists after that, call the police.

Luckygirlcharlie · 14/02/2016 14:26

Skincrawlingly awful. I'm just watching one hour photo whilst reading this so making it even worse! Tell him you're sorry if you have given him the wrong impression but you're not interested in having a relationship so want to break contact entirely. If he doesn't accept it you need to step it up and say you're blocking his number and that you've told a number of your friends and family all about the situation and the police will be brought in if you hear from him again.

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