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No sex for 3 years...update

121 replies

unwanted · 27/12/2006 13:16

Hi. You may remember my other thread about the emotionally abusive marriage I am in, and how poisonous he is to my children. Well, after the police told him to leave it was lovely for 2 days, but then he came back. The house is joint tenancy, so he has a legal right to be here. He promised we would talk, but then spent 2 hours slating the kids, telling them all THEIR faults etc...I couldn't believe it. After all that had happened. Anyway, a few days later I got a call from social services. the police had referred the case onto them, and they wanted to interview me and the kids. A social worker came around and I decided to tell him everything...I didn't make any of it up, just told him the truth, as did the children. he went away, and a few days later called and asked H to come in for a meeting. H cancelled the meeting, saying he didn;t think he would be home in time. They asked him to call when he got home so they could come to the house, but he ignored this too, as well as messages on the phone etc all from social services. The social worker told me that if H didn't cooperate, then they would have no choice but to call a child protection meeting as they considered my children to be at significant risk of harm due to emotional abuse.
So...now they have written to H, telling him in no uncertain terms that he can't ignore them, and that if he doesn't show on 3rd Jan at 4pm then they will press ahead. I opened the letter when it came, because I didn;t want Christmas to be any worse than it was going to be...I have to give it to him tonight.
Christmas was a nightmare. he shouted at DS an hour into the day for spilling water in the kitchen...told him to 'clean this f*ing s**t hole up'...again at night because DS stood in front of the telly and H was convinced that he had done it deliberately, and me and the kids had to spend all afternoon and evening on Christmas day watching the soaps etc in the kitchen while he sprawled on the settee because he wouldn't 'watch that shite on the telly'!
It's looking increasingly likely that we will end up in a refuge, as even if the abuse stopped I can never forgive him for what he has done, and I cannot live under the scrutiny of social services. they want him to go to counselling and parenting classes...I know he will refuse but even if he agreed they would want constant proof. If he doesn't agree then they will be considered 'at risk'. I am told that if I leave him their involvement will stop as they have no concerns about me, only him.
So...any info about refuges appreciated. What are they really like? Has anyone laft with nothing and managed to start again? how long did anyone stay in one? Where were they rehoused?
I am loathe to leave our stuff in the house. Most of it is mine, and I will never be able to replace some of it...I really need to find a lock up or storage place but I have no money now as I had to close the business because of him. Things like photos, toys, personal stuff etc...
Anyway, just thought I'd update and if anyone has any advice, experience, empty house up for grabs...(only joking about that last one!)...

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ProfYaffle · 20/01/2007 19:24

Apparently the accommodation is brand new, very nice and she's hoping to be back online very soon.

jura · 20/01/2007 21:29

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swifterella · 21/01/2007 08:11

please send all our love and tell her how brilliantly i think she is doing.

Furball · 21/01/2007 08:21

very brave and well done you!

ludaloo · 21/01/2007 08:29

OOhhhh...I have only just found this and have read the thread top to toe....what a brave thing she has done! I really hope she can move on and find happiness now. What an ARSE she leaves behind!!!!! Good luck and all the best wishes in the world

dmo · 21/01/2007 23:51

love to you and your children

ProfYaffle · 22/01/2007 20:52

OWIP texted me again today and asked if I'd update mn. She says she's met some of the other women and after a low point last night feels better today. Her youngest dd has gone to a creche and they're getting into a new routine. The older kids are missing home but glad to be away from tsser. She's hoping to be back home in a few weeks, hasn't heard from tsser yet, apparently it too him a couple of days to realise they'd gone.

nwgreenmum · 25/01/2007 00:48

I have been lurking on this thread, and would love for you to pass on my well wishes to OWIU and her LOs. I hope they are OK. She sounds very brave.

NewMoonOnMonday · 25/01/2007 01:02

Please pass on a good luck message from me too profyaffle. Material goods can't replace feeling safe and secure in your own home. I hope she's feeling positive and her DC's are getting used to their new surroundings.

BuffysMum · 26/01/2007 09:16

I've followed this from the first place, so glad it's going ok for her - h ad to laugh that it took a few days to realise they'd gone - unbelievable, just shows how little they all really mean to him!

OnlyWayIsUP · 26/01/2007 21:28

Hi everyone!!!! Well as Prof said we are in a refuge, been here for a week now. The refuge is self contained flats which is lovely...all furnished and a lovely bunch of women. H reported me to the police this week for abductin the baby!!!! Once I explained to them that I was in a refuge after fleeing domestic violence they were happy to accept it. They told him I was safe but wouldn't say where I was and apparently he went mental, effing and blinding.
I went bakc under police escort today to pick up some more stuff. he has said he will destroy all my stuff if I don't pick it up by today but the has changed the locks!!!!
Anyway, lots to tell, but promised DD1 I would go and watch Ugly betty with her so I'd better go. But believe me when I say that although we miss our stuff and own home, we are so much more relaxed here...no walking on eggshells and it's LOVELY!
I'll keep in touch now I know how to access the internet here!
Take care all. x

OnlyWayIsUP · 26/01/2007 21:30

Oh, and we found a foster home for the dog which is lovely, and although we can't see her we can ring up when we like to check that she's ok. Given that he is destroying all my stuff (and to be honest I don't care anymore...I have what is precious here with me), God knows what he would have done with the dog as she belongs to me!

ProfYaffle · 26/01/2007 21:32

Hey!! Hello, nice to see you back online. He really is a shit isn't he? 'abducting the baby' So pleased for you and the dc's being able to relax in your own space, you've done so well.

BuffysMum · 26/01/2007 21:33

good to hear from you glad you are already much happier, so pleased for you all!!!!!!!

meb2006 · 11/02/2007 16:57

I have been following this thread - I am so proud of you. It is so difficult to leave this type of abuse but you will look back at this and will beam with pride. Please keep us updated. Is there anything desperate that you need that isn't provided? Please let us know.

OnlyWayIsUP · 12/02/2007 10:56

Ok, so I know I'm in for some flak here, but as you all gave me so much help I thought it only fair to update you (and ask for help again!). It was all going ok in the refuge; then we all got ill, first sickness and diarrhoea and then chest infections. Then the police started hassling my Mum, waking her up at 11.30 pm demanding to know what I had done with the baby! She's in her 70s so did not need that at all. Then the refuge people started telling me that I needed to get DD2 checked out at the dr to make sure H hadn't interfered with her (she had a sore bum and I had previously mentioned that H took her in the bath with him)(She's fine by the way). On top of that, H sent me dozens of texts over the weekend saying he couldn't live without us and that he was going to kill himself (all cliches I know BUT he has made a serious attempt in the past). I spoke to him and he was sobbing, saying he realised now what he had done, and if we came back he would get help, meds, counselling etc...and I guess because I was sick, the kids were sick, and because I'm a bloody idiot we came back. The kids wanted to also, as he has to go into hopsital for an operation and they said it wouldn't be fair him living alone and having to recuperate. He had offered to move out but the kids wanted him to stay so I laid down some ground rules and tried again.
It's been a disaster. The first 4 days were good, but he's refusing to take the anti depressants, won't go for counselling, and I found out that he spent the weekend with some woman and got very drunk with her ( he said nothing happened) but then I found a photo of her on his phone exposing her boobs, and not in a jokey way. This was all the weekend we left, and he didn't even notice we had left until 4 days later. On top of that he is still calling and texting her, whenever I am not around. he says it's my problem that I don't trust him!
He's being a lot more patient with the kids, however he is directing ALL of it onto me. he says I have to put up with it as it's his depression and if I support him it's what I have to do. For instance, the other night we had a row. He told me he didn't want me to go to the dr with him the next day, told me 3 times, so i didn't. he went mental, said I should have insisted on going. He says I am not making enough effort (I am) but then says I am doing too much but have to keep on doing it!!!!
We were going to move to Cornwall for a fresh start, but when the problems came back I had second thoughts. he's just called me and asked what I thought about a job he's been offered down there and I said we need to sort out the problems we have first as they will just follow us down there and he went off on one again, said we will never solve our problems while we live here and slammed the phone down on me!
I'm so confused. Why did he beg us to come home, and make all the promises, and cry down the phone and then behave like this?
And now I'm in an even worse mess, as there is no way I can go back into a refuge, and he is hiding behind depression as an excuse to get away with spoilt brat behaviour and treating me like s**t.

scorpio1 · 12/02/2007 11:09

the problems will follow you,hun.

men who abuse say things like that to make you return,but will never be any different,never.sounds like you hada good few days and now everything is back to normal, and may possibly get worse because you left.

i live in Cornwall and i struggled for nearly three years to get a place on a domestic violence perpetrators course for my dp-there is a distinct lack of services in my area of Cornwall to help.

Please dont stay there

meb2006 · 12/02/2007 11:52

please don't look back look forward. Why can't you go back to the refuge if you want to - call them and tell them what had happened...

adozenroses · 12/02/2007 13:35

Hi . I,ve been following this thread and thought you were very brave for getting away. The refuge will understand why you went back though and will welcome you back again. It's not easy to walk away completely, but you did it once ad you'll find the strength to do it again.

Read your post from 26th Jan, you sound so happy. Don't give up on your's and your children's happiness.

(((big hugs)))

Anniegetyourgun · 12/02/2007 13:51

I'm sure you aren't the first "customer" in the refuge to have tried going back. You gave it a last shot because you felt you had to; I don't think any reasonable person could blame you for that. You've really tried everything now and he's STILL blown it (and I bet his patience with the children won't last much longer either). Let him go and get his job in Cornwall - good riddance. Maybe you can move back into your own home then.

BuffysMum · 20/02/2007 13:05

Please go back to the refuge you have really really tried everything. He has proved to you he will never change you now know that for certain. I will continue to watch this thread.

Please try and get yourself enough together to leave him - you were so very happy when you left previously. It is very hard to walk away from anyone if you care about them no matter how horrid they are too you.

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