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Really trying hard not to..

129 replies

suchstuffasbaddreamsaremadeof · 30/12/2015 18:08

Text a man who has repeatedly just shown he has no respect for me, just wants me for sex and doesn't really treat me even as a friend. I have had NC with him for five days and i just want to text him really badly. Can anyone help?

OP posts:
laurierf · 03/01/2016 14:38

Don't have a go at her

I'm not - I'm giving my opinion in contrast to yours - so please don't try to create an argument out of nothing. It doesn't help anyone.

LobsterQuadrille · 03/01/2016 14:45

Hi OP, like many others, I've been exactly where you are and think it's very brave of you to post on here with brutal honesty. It reminds me of how I felt, which was kind of "I think I'm worthless so I'll behave in a manner that makes everyone else think I am too, then I'll be proven right".

As a recovering alcoholic, I'd also say there's an addictive element that makes you go back time and time again to the "substance" that you know isn't good for you, will make you feel terrible afterwards, will make your family and friends wring their hands in frustration at your behaviour - yet we still choose to press the self destruct button.

Distractions were what helped me the most - and that's a personal thing. For me, as silly as it sounds, it was constantly having something decent to read and not to be bored. Could be friends, could be boards on here, could be planning each day at a time (as they say).

Good luck.

DifferentCats · 03/01/2016 15:40

Don't start an argument? You commented on what I said, in disagreement. Twice.

Bit hypocritical. If you don't want to argue with someone, don't get your wellies on and wade in.

spudlike1 · 03/01/2016 15:42

It is like an addiction I agree . The issues are nothing to do with him as a person (more a fantasy perfect man than reality ) . You imagine that contact from him will ease your angst but he is not the answer, he is not the cure for how you feel. Fill your life with other interests .

InTheBox · 03/01/2016 15:42

Different Whilst I agree with your sentiment that the OP should do things in her own time and at her own pace i.e. not at the behest of other posters, you seem to be intent on derailing the thread.

DifferentCats · 03/01/2016 15:53

It seems to me that people are intent on giving the OP a shoeing and are not actually interested in it being about things she has actually said and done, i.e nagging her for playing games when it was actually me who made the comment.

It's not very fair on her.

spudlike1 · 03/01/2016 16:07

Stop bitching you lot focus on the issue

laurierf · 03/01/2016 17:19

Ignoring a text and feeling pleased about it but not cutting of contact is remaining in 'the game' and leaving yourself vulnerable to being reeled back in the next time this man wants sex/an ego boost, as also pointed out by Mini earlier on in the thread.

DifferentCats · 03/01/2016 17:36

I don't think such a destructive thing to slingshot yourself out of this situation with smug feelings towards the man in question. Whatever it takes to get to the goal of caring less.

Anyway, one way or another, we're all rooting for you, OP. It's bloody hard to not text back, so well done on any achievement in that direction.

fishfingersinmysandwiches · 03/01/2016 18:06

Op I am another poster who has been in this situation. More than once actually Blush

It is an insidious form of self harm which causes us to feel much shame Sad We get into the situation because our self esteem is lacking, then being treated with a lack of respect lowers it further, which makes us chase harder, which makes the other person treat us with yet more disregard, which makes us feel worse and so chase even harder, and on and on it goes becoming ever more difficult to extricate ourselves. Whoever likened it to a hamster wheel was dead on.

What we are chasing is some validation that we are desirable and worthwhile. Because we don't feel it ourselves we are looking to someone else to give it to us. If we win this man over then that means we are ok! But we are setting ourselves us to fail.

The only possible way to make this pain stop is to... stop. We have to change the outcome for ourselves by behaving differently. Because if we keep doing what we have always done we are going to keep getting what we've always got.

I can understand why, to someone with a healthy enough sense of self worth, this behaviour seems inexplicable. I can see why someone would look at this miserable pattern and think, how could anyone be so weak? How could anyone do this to themselves??? But humans do all kinds of crazy things that are not in their best interests. I can relate to the op but draw a total blank when trying to understand why some people, for example... I dunno... stuff themselves with junk food to comfort themselves emotionally. Lots of people do it. But it would make me feel very ill and so I don't personally get it. I don't go around calling them fat, greedy bastards though.

As for what to do OP, that is ultimately up to you. Lots of people are suggesting going cold turkey with a rip the plaster off approach ie block him and never speak to him again. I personally can't do that and fair better with a gentler approach that involves kind of weaning myself off. I start by getting busy/going away if I can. I stop initiating contact but do still respond to contact initiated by the other person. However I don't make effort to continue the conversation by asking questions. I answer, "Fine thanks" to queries as to how I'm doing and leave off the, "And you?" for example. Gradually I begin to feel stronger. And as my confidence returns little by little, I begin to want the person less (oh the relief!)

I am getting better at recognising these situations for what they are far sooner these days and beginning the process outlined above, earlier. So whereas before I might have gone on for months making myself miserable, now after one or two meaningless shags with minimal effort from the other person I go aha - I recognise this! Ok, let's start treating myself with more care... And as my self care improves I feel better about myself Smile

suchstuffasbaddreamsaremadeof · 03/01/2016 18:06

I can't bring myself to block and delete him ...yet. He has texted me again today 'Do I want to go to his and...'( you can guess the rest.) So i am now drinking and trying to desperately not, not text him. God this is hard.

OP posts:
fishfingersinmysandwiches · 03/01/2016 18:07

Gosh, that was long. Sorry.

spudlike1 · 03/01/2016 18:29

Thank you fish you've worded it beautifully
I've been the same
I had one that blocked me in the end I asked him to ( long story not as sad as it sounds ) relief was immense . He wasn't right the more distance from the whole attachment I had formed the better .
Listen to fish's advice move on get busy with more positives in your life

laurierf · 03/01/2016 18:32

OP - he will only ever want you to come round for sex as and when he feels like it. That is not going to change. You will not get anything out of this. Are you struggling to delete and block because you want to carry on with that arrangement for a while? Because that is all you can ever expect from him. This is nothing to do with you. There is nothing 'wrong' or 'not good' enough or anything like that about you - it's ALL about him and that is why it's not going to change. Ever. Because there is nothing you can do about him being an arsehole.

At the point when you decide you don't want to be treated like something that he can pick up and throw away whenever he wants, then you delete and block.

Tonight, however, you need to switch the phone off if you're sitting there drinking. Remember how you felt the last time you went round there? It's written on this thread if you've forgotten… it really, really wasn't good. You said it made you feel like shit on the floor. So don't go there tonight.

What positive thing can you do to look after yourself tonight instead?

spudlike1 · 03/01/2016 18:38

I worked very hard to focus on the kind of man I wanted to be with ( one that would move mountains for me ) and I did ..you will to be patient ...ditch the user

Shakey15000 · 03/01/2016 18:42

I also recall a time I was desperately chasing and waiting for this bloke. And any crumb he threw me, I clung onto like a drowning woman. I was pathetically grateful.

And therin lies that contentious word "pathetic". I look back and absolutely describe that behaviour as pathetic. Because it was. Plain and simple. I don't doubt it's difficult to hear but there are certainly times when flowering shit up will make no difference, whereas plain talking will.

I agree with all that say to delete the number and consider your worth to be more than a shag on a virtual elastic band.

suchstuffasbaddreamsaremadeof · 03/01/2016 20:28

To stay positive tonight I will just drink and then go to bed and hope I don't dream about him.

OP posts:
laurierf · 03/01/2016 20:36

When I quit smoking I had a number of dreams involving cigarettes… quitting was, and still is, the best decision I have made in my life. Every morning after one of those dreams I thought "thank fuck that was just a dream and I've not got that toxicity in my life anymore".

Cherrycrystal · 03/01/2016 20:47

You can do this Such it's so difficult, believe me I know, but you've taken a step I couldn't take and ignored him. Well done!
Keep yourself distracted tonight, do you read? Do you have a favourite show to watch? Anything to distract you. Keep going you can do this.

InTheBox · 04/01/2016 09:49

OP, I'm also concerned you might be seeking comfort in alcohol. Please don't drink yourself into a stupor. When drunk you might quite literally fall of the wagon and think nothing of just sending him 'a quick text'.

suchstuffasbaddreamsaremadeof · 04/01/2016 10:21

I did drink last night but i turned my phone off, which is good. This morning i turned my phone on and there was three messages from him, the first one saying 'are you there?' the second one was 'where are you?' and then the last one was 'fuk you then', which is not very nice. I'm glad i haven't replied. He never used to text me this much.

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spudlike1 · 04/01/2016 11:35

'Fuk you then' says it all ....what a charmer ... imagine you could have gone around and spent your quality time with this ignoramus .
Remember the more distance you give this the the stronger you'll get and the clearer you will see

InTheBox · 04/01/2016 11:50

He's now feeling very put out that he doesn't have you dangling from a string anymore. He expected you to be quite literally begging to be with him. Keep strong. Laugh at his sheer idiocy. You are no-one's fool.

51howdidthathappen · 04/01/2016 11:58

Oh well done OP.

You are getting into the 'fuck him' zone.

Jux · 04/01/2016 12:13

fuk u then

Just make sure he doesn't fuck you again.

You can delete his number. Somewhere in there is the woman you were before you met him and you can find her if you dig deep enough. Delete him.

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