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Half my Life - very long, sorry in advance

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WitchWay · 23/10/2015 15:46

I posted a couple of times a few months ago about my marriage & as usual just hid it all under the carpet after good advice here. This year I turned 50 & also had my 25th wedding anniversary, which has really struck home. Half my life - I'm certain I cannot tolerate another 25 years with my husband.

When I look at it all logically & "from the outside" I know exactly what I would be advising someone else (my job includes marriage guidance at times!), but I just don't seem to have been able to get myself out. Pathetic, I know.

He is abusive - there has been violence in the past, stamping on me on occasion while I lay in bed, kicking me in the shins, twisting my ankle, but that stopped years ago, after an ultimatum. He did shove me into a bush on holiday this summer though while pissed & arguing. The usual "you made me so angry" - I do tend to push my luck & not back down.

He has broken things of mine in a temper, including my spectacles, over the years, recently shredded some school work of DS's as he didn't feel "included" - DS had been trying to get him to proofread it for days - in the end I did it as it had to be handed in & he felt this was undermining him - not the only copy thank goodness. Loads of arguments as I just can't hold my tongue when he's being an arse.

Lots of messing with my head, refusing to remember stuff that has definitely happened, refusing to believe things, twisting my words, getting angry over trivia then calming down suddenly as if nothing has happened, accusing me of lying & then the typical "you really are insane".

Boastful & bigoted about all sorts - he's one of the best drivers in the world, apparently - belittling of women "that bitch doesn't know what she's talking about", awful about immigrants, fat people, the poor etc. If I pull him up on anything he says "Weeeelllll" in a snidey voice. Aggressive driver & trying to make newly-qualified DS drive in a similar way - he refuses.

Blaming me for turning our son (nearly 18) against him "he's just like you - I wish I'd had all that time with him on the school runs when he was little". At the time he refused to regularly participate in school runs as he didn't want to be involved in the lift share I had going "I don't want other people's children kicking the car seats". Completely refutes this now though & says it was me that said that. DS is more like me because he simply is more like me & my side of the family in looks & personality, although he also resembles SIL's children. "I don't think he's mine". He is, guaranteed - let's have tests done - no.

Worrying me over the finances - we have a huge mortgage which eventually will be payed off but he is keen to borrow more to finance a house for DS once at Uni. I'd prefer to sell the small holiday cottage we have - he thinks this is ridiculous. Gets angry when I suggest selling a couple of his sports cars could pay off some of the mortgage, surely one fancy car is enough?

Hoarding - literally 30 years' worth of car magazines plus others relating to present & past hobbies in huge piles all over the place. Heaps of unopened Christmas presents (unwrapped but still in boxes), every greetings card he's ever received, unwanted clothes bulging from his wardrobe (he did chuck out six shirts & 3 pairs of trousers the other week as he'd run out of space - I had them in the charity shop in a trice!). Unopened post going back years. Most rooms in the house too full of clutter to be used for their intended purpose so he does paperwork (occasionally when he absolutely has to) on the kitchen able & gets cross if I'm trying to cook the dinner. Says he hates the mess too & yes we need to tidy the house but refuses to allow me to tackle it alone & won't do anything about it himself.

Empty promises about tackling the mess, the fact he would also like to have people round for dinner & to stay but we can't till the house is tidy (a very small select group is allowed, DS invites no-one at all as he is ashamed), of course I can have my own office (I've been waiting six years since going freelance). Says "If I tidied up you'd just moan about something else".

Jealousy - we did both have affairs some 14-15yrs ago during a particularly unpleasant phase, all dealt with, still drags it all up occasionally & very suspicious of my attending a local choir for the last couple of years, sure I'm carrying on with someone there. I say "come and see the geriatrics and the mostly women, if you're so bothered". He doesn't of course. Convinced I'm going to up & leave him once DS leaves home - "you women are all the same, never satisfied" - a couple of friends have recently left their husbands after long marriages.

Does virtually nothing around the house, although did actually make me a cup of coffee yesterday morning - first one this year & most likely the last - I have had a few cups of tea made fairly recently though - approximately three while on holiday. If I'm away he just doesn't bother to make himself a hot drink at all! "If you ever died or left me I'd just get a housekeeper".

Dominates the lounge/television/lighting - really annoyed if I want a bit of light on because I'm crocheting - only the side lights mind - "hurts his eyes, can't see the screen" - suggests I go & sit in the bedroom instead - I refuse as I don't see why I ought to behave like some blooming student! Choice of programme is invariably his - fortunately I like some of it, but not the bloody car stuff. The house is "his" of course as I work part time & earn much less, although we're both on the mortgage - doesn't appreciate any input that isn't financial but then mutters about colleagues' wives being much worse as most don't work at all outside the home.

Lots of low-grade control stuff going on like being habitually late for meals (although this has improved a lot lately, since I just started dishing up without him), not "allowing" me to start the dishwasher if he's still in the room as he hates the noise, but he "forgets" to put it on if I ask him to, sending me out of the kitchen if he's on the phone even if I'm in the middle of something - life would be much easier if he had an office he could actually USE - sigh!

Reading all of the above seems surreal, crazy that it has gone on so long, makes me think I ought to have left years ago. We do still have fun & get on really well at times, usually on holiday & after a few drinks. Not real life though, is it? Part of me thinks I've missed the chance now after all those years - I feel an idiot.

I'm really worried about how to disentangle everything. I could afford to rent somewhere while the financial stuff got sorted I suppose. I just know he will make things really difficult if I announce I'm leaving. he won't open post, won't sign documents, could very well damage things of mine, shred paperwork & cause a real nuisance. All of these things can be overcome, of course - I'm just scared.

Worried too about the fallout for DS - he's a big boy now though, thinks his father is unreasonable "he's the most selfish person I know", hates the arguments & refuses to be downtrodden by him. He also thinks I'm unreasonable because I nag about stuff - stuff that drives me nuts admittedly - agrees I need to stand up for myself more. He tries to hold his own at the dinner table but we both just get "you're WRONG, that's RUBBISH, I'm not discussing this any more - the conversation is OVER".

I don't need telling that it's awful or abusive, I just need to find the strength to make the move. I've been looking for places to rent & even looking up solicitors, which has really given me a lift. Nothing will happen till DS moves out, but I feel lighter just contemplating it as a reality.

OP posts:
Sansoora · 05/11/2015 11:47

We cross posted - you are using her as a whipping post in order to deal with your feelings regarding your mum. You cant or wont have a go at her for it so you are using the OP in her place.

You are a bully.

cailindana · 05/11/2015 11:48

Like I say, if Witchway asks me to stop posting, I will Sansoora.

Sansoora · 05/11/2015 11:49

As I previously said - you're a bully. She has asked not to be nagged and you just keep on going at it.

cailindana · 05/11/2015 11:50

Thanks for your input Sansoora.

Sansoora · 05/11/2015 11:52

You're more than welcome Cailindana.

WitchWay · 05/11/2015 12:31

All contributions are welcome but believe me Cailindana, I really cannot do things any faster or sooner. I'm well aware that my & my son's live swould have been very different if I'd had the nerve to get out earlier Sad

The really stupid thing is that I counsel women in similar situations as part of my work but somehow have been unable to follow my own advice Confused

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cailindana · 05/11/2015 12:33

Don't berate yourself for the past, all that is done now. I get that you feel stuck, I know how that feels. The reason I'm being hard on you about your excuses is that they are the things that will keep you stuck - they are the things that convince you there's nothing you can do.

There will be a moment when you feel ready to leave. You can do it.

WitchWay · 05/11/2015 13:28

Thanks Smile

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WitchWay · 11/11/2015 21:15

Well, I saw the solicitor & didn't like her much - too soft I felt - but it was a very useful meeting. I have another rottweiler solicitor (recommended by a friend) lined up for a meeting next month - she & I are too busy before that. H is being lovely at the moment, relatively at least, mentioning the future, looking forward to retirement & relocating abroad perhaps, even being slightly helpful at home - very slightly though - I still put out the bin this morning Blue Job I think . Still being an arse though regarding DS & shouted me down again last night you're worse than your bloody mother while I was trying to talk to DS about school stuff. When he's being nice I forget about the abuse for a while, as if it were a bad dream.

I feel rotten about the whole thing but he's blown it Sad

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ProfGrammaticus · 11/11/2015 21:21

It is rotten. But it sounds as though you will get through it ok, OP.

trackrBird · 12/11/2015 01:49

It's good to have seen the solicitor. Even if it was something of a false start, it's another step on the road. Bravo to you. Flowers

I hope you will be able to begin detaching from your H's nice act.

Alfieisnoisy · 12/11/2015 08:11

Glad you have seen a solicitor.

Don't fall for the "nice" act of your hubby. Have a read about the cycle of abuse as it's very informative. He's being nice at the moment but you know it won't last and in no time you'll be treading on eggshells trying not to upset him....maybe you already are. It ends with his explosion and sometimes apologies and good behaviour for a while and so it all starts again.

amarmai · 13/11/2015 14:13

since he is the gamesmaster in your life and since he makes the decisions regarding whatever treatment he is going to hand out so he can enjoy the results in terms of how you feel and react, he must be noticing that your emotions and behaviour are not being controlled by him any more . He is figuring out that you are changing and getting free of him and he does not want to lose his catspaw, which will inspire him to "be nice" to you. This will only last as long as he thinks you are back under his control. Hope you can get your escape route sorted and a bolthole ready before he figures out you are escaping him. Having you as a scapegoat is essential to his ability to deal with life and he will not take kindly to you daring to think of escape far less actually doing it. Does he know your passwords? If so change them asap. Your son and you have decided to wait until he has completed his exams as he will get worse when he knows you are escaping-but will he hold off on exploding in consideration of your son? could he be dangerous in the event that he realises you are planning to go?

WitchWay · 13/11/2015 18:27

I think he's being nicer because I'm feeling calmer & not rising to so much of the bait, so the tension levels are a bit lower. I don't think he has any inkling that I'm making plans. He doesn't know any passwords of mine although I know the one for his email...

When he eventually finds out I don't honestly think he'd be dangerous as in likely to hurt me, but would more than likely break things. I also suspect he will be very upset, horrified & tearful, as I do genuinely think he still loves me, even though he has a funny way of showing it. He will then become nasty, manipulative & deceitful, to try to keep as many assets as possible for himself.

He will blame friends for influencing me & will start badmouthing me to his parents & sister - they know what he is like, but from PIL's perspective the sun shines from his backside so any indiscretions are soon overlooked. My SIL is less easily fooled!

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amarmai · 13/11/2015 21:13

since he enjoys affecting your emotions, he watches and assesses whether he is having his intended effect. Now you appear to be in charge of your emotional life instead of him , he is wondering why. How are your plans going ,op? Are you getting your ducks in a row, as we say on MN? Maybe pack the things you don't want to be broken; disappear them gradually.

Sansoora · 14/11/2015 05:19

I also suspect he will be very upset, horrified & tearful, as I do genuinely think he still loves me, even though he has a funny way of showing

He will become tearful etc because he manipulative and you really do need to start getting inside his head in order to help yourself. Remember that abusers love a good challenge and whats a few tears if breaking things doesn't work this time.

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