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Non-communication problem.

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lifeissweet · 13/09/2015 09:24

This may be long. I apologise in advance.

DP and I have been together for 2 years. We have known each other for about 11 years, but were both married to other people. We are part of the same circle of friends. I was divorced for 5 years and him for 2 before we got together (just in case anyone was wondering)

We have always got on really well. Our friends were all delighted when we got together because we are so well suited. Including my ex-h, who I have an unusually good friendship with.

All was going amazingly well...until...

About 6 months in, we had a very minor disagreement. I was annoyed with him about something he had done that had hurt me and I told him so.

Completely without warning, the shutters came down. He wouldn't answer my calls, he wouldn't respond to messages save to say that he didn't want to talk to me. It was hell. I felt ill. I thought it was all over.

After 2 days of being ignored, he invited me round, told me he had been going over things in his head. He had been worried that I was trying to manipulate him. I wasn't. He had decided that I wasn't, so now everything was ok. He was trying to guard against the same mistakes made in his marriage, where he had been controlled and manipulated and was determined not to let that happen again.

I was upset with him, but relieved that things were back on track, so on we went...

This has happened 3 times since. Always about something small that was taken the wrong way. He refuses to answer my calls and gets annoyed if I text him saying 'all I want is some space and you can at least give me that.'

When I ask him about it he just says he needs time to think and that I need to leave him alone. He stops short of completely ignoring me. He'll send a good morning or a goodnight (just those words. No elaboration) and if I try to call, he'll text a 'do you need me for anything?' and if I say 'just to talk to you.' He'll say 'oh. Ok.' Or remind me that I'm supposed to be leaving him alone.

He is doing this to me at the moment. We don't live together. We have complicated and busy lives. I went round to his on Thursday night. Neither of us had our children. I usually stay the night. I was getting tired at about 11, so said I might go to bed. He said 'so you're going home, then?'

And I was a bit surprised and asked 'can't I stay here?'

And he said
'No.'

Just that.

So I got my stuff together and started to leave. I was upset. Visibly so.

He got annoyed with me. I told him it was fine. He needed a night to himself and that is valid. I sometimes do too, I was just disappointed as I hadn't seen him all week and like waking up with him. He accused me of trying to make him feel bad.

I left.

And since then it has been the cold shoulder.

He sends me good morning and goodnight messages and we even all went to his sister's house for lunch yesterday, but he didn't speak directly to me or look at me the whole time we were there.

I feel like I'm going mad.
I have told him how this makes me feel. It doesn't seem to make a difference. He says this is just how he copes with things and I need to accept it.
But it makes me feel physically sick and Insecure and out of control.
Is Any Fucker around to give me a kick up the arse?

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DisillusionedGoat · 13/09/2015 18:02

OP, you are my hero. Be a woman of your word. Let things be at an end. I don't think he's going to go quietly. Be forewarned....

TendonQueen · 13/09/2015 18:02

Listen to this
m.youtube.com/watch?v=9wFaI7oJggI

It's another perfect song for you right now. DO NOT send it to him, but it would be the ideal thing to say.

lifeissweet · 13/09/2015 18:05

I am under no illusions. I'm not going to find this as easy as I am making it sound.

I am probably going to need you help to keep me strong.

He is damaged and not good for me, but there is a deeply lovely side of him and if he turns it on I'm going to need to keep re-reading all of your words to keep me focused.

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AnyFucker · 13/09/2015 18:05

that's a good 'un too

lifeissweet · 13/09/2015 18:16

Play list time then...

I'm going for Weak by Skunk Anansie and I'm free by the Soup Dragons (I was quite clearly a teenager in the 90s...in case anyone was in any doubt)

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Inexperiencedchick · 13/09/2015 20:59

Good luck with every step you make.

Stay strong, x

lifeissweet · 13/09/2015 21:02

Thanks, Chick.

He's trying to reel me back in now. He just sent me a copy of a letter he's sending to someone asking whether I think it's ok.

And then asked whether I have the children tonight, or want to do something?

Like nothing ever happened.

And if I make an issue of the silence this weekend, he will deny it, excuse it or take umbridge and go quiet again.

Fun. And. Games. Isn't it?

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WeirdCatLadySaysFuckOffJeffrey · 13/09/2015 21:15

Playlist suggestion....an old classic....I will survive

Wine and Flowers for you x

LineyReborn · 13/09/2015 21:36

I wouldn't even bother guessing at his motivations any more. The important thing is for you not to be in such a crappy relationship and to look after yourself.

TendonQueen · 13/09/2015 22:09

I think you'd be more than justified in not replying at all. However, if you want to show you're not doing the silent treatment (he sounds like he would attribute his own bad behaviour to others) you could send brief and totally factual reply. 'I'm sure the letter is fine. No thanks to meeting up this evening'. You don't have to read the letter to say this, either. Just politely answer then disappear. You don't owe him emotional engagement anymore.

AnyFucker · 13/09/2015 22:19

disengage

DoreenLethal · 13/09/2015 22:26

Fuck me sideways - the man is cured. What are the chances?

IrenetheQuaint · 13/09/2015 22:27

Good for you, OP. He sounds like a classic avoidant and you're much better off without him.

Charley50 · 13/09/2015 22:41
Here's another one for you OP (if the link works).. The Avalances 'Since I left you.' Don't let him damage you emotionally any more Flowers
Charley50 · 13/09/2015 22:42

Wow it worked!

Justaboy · 13/09/2015 23:10

If you want a male opinion lifeissweet for what its worth. Sounds to me this isnt going to get any better at all he's behaving like a right prat. I managed to cope with several years of manic depression that my dear first wife suffered with after childbirth and it wasn't easy but if he loves you all all which I very much doubt you'd be better off without him.

You could suggest a meeting with relate they don't always get it right but they can unearth some things that he might be helped with worth a try. Their counsellors are very well trained and often it does help having a third party to advise you both but the gut feel is it ain't gonna fly long term.

ToGoBoldly · 13/09/2015 23:32

I live my life by WWAFD. So, disengage. As soon as I disengaged from my pet headfuck of a man, tada - magically felt better.

I wouldn't bother with Relate, he's a complete knobber who is not worth your time.

ToGoBoldly · 13/09/2015 23:32

Like, he might need counselling but that's his problem, frankly.

PeppasNanna · 14/09/2015 08:25

Hope your doing ok today op.Flowers

TheStoic · 14/09/2015 08:52

God these threads make me angry.

Well done OP for realising you deserve better. It won't be easy, as you know, but so worth it to get him out of your life.

T/J: I wish there was a...service...for women where someone (I'm happy to do it) comes around to break up with these c*nts for them, then sends them off for a two week all expenses paid holiday to establish no contact...

AnyFucker · 14/09/2015 10:06

I'd apply for that job. D'ya think there is a business case I could put forward ? Smile

ISpeakJive · 14/09/2015 10:34

He sounds so sure of himself, OP. So smug! He really believes that he can act this way and you will continue to stick around!!

Well done for taking the first steps to move on.

TheStoic · 14/09/2015 10:39

You're a shoo-in, AF.

If I had the money, I'd set it up as a charity. The Society for C*ntfree Living, maybe.

AnyFucker · 14/09/2015 10:47
Smile
lifeissweet · 14/09/2015 11:04

Set up that service!

Thank you all.

So far I'm making no contact. He's away tonight and tomorrow night, so I have time to get my shit together, remove my stuff from his house and get strong.

Last night he started decorating one of his spare bedrooms for my DD. I think this is his way of pretending nothing happened.

I mentioned him 'shutting me out' and he said 'if I had shut you out i wouldn't have sent you Good Morning or Goodnight messages. I was just being non-conversational, not ignoring you.'

Then...

'Not everything is about you, you know. You are not the centre of the universe. I had some things to sort out in my own head. It isn't personal.'

Hmm...

He was perfectly conversational with his sister and her family on Saturday, just rude to me.

Jog on, tosser.

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