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Should I trust him after possible infidelity

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lydiajane01 · 11/09/2015 21:55

At the start of the year I saw some messages between my husband and a female friend from work. They seemed to be discussing his potential infidelity not with her but another woman in their department. Husband swore blind that he hadn't actually gone through with it just had his head turned by this woman.

The female friend he was chatting to about it is someone I know. I wouldn't say we are as close friends like she is with my husband, as they spend time socialising as a group with some other friends from work, but I would say we are friends. She's invited me out to her birthday's and some "girly nights" over the last few years

Husband and I almost split up over it but we decided to work through the issues. There was a lot else going on at the same time which lead him to say he felt neglected by me and when the OW had started to "come on to him" he'd felt flattered and enjoyed the attention.

The things he was telling his female work friend was fairy graphic but I do believe him that nothing actually happened with OW. He admits he didn't intend for me to see their messages, he said he used to delete anything that wasn't purely innocent friendly chat, so I would like to believe that he didn't physically cheating otherwise he would have given his female friend the details in that conversation

I was very angry and became rather jealous of his friendship with his female friend because a) he was discussing his potential cheating with her b) that he was obviously confiding in her over me on a rang of other issues. I've never had any problem with their friendship before as she is very nice and friendly but as part of the getting through what he'd done I asked him to talk to her a bit less until I was over my jealousy.

My issue comes now that although he did stop talking to her so much for a while he's been talking to her an awful lot again recently. He's open with his Work laptop (another condition of us not splitting) and I admit I had a look a few nights ago. His email account is full of emails from them! some work related but others are obviously just long chatty emails. I felt a tiny bit jealous again but was prepared to let it lie until I noticed something slightly odd. In a few of his emails he says things like I will text you or check your whatsapp. At first she questions why and he makes it clear whatever it is he wanted to say isn't appropriate for email at work.

Husband took passcode off his phone at my request after I saw him talking about cheating. I took the chance to look at his phone and found hundreds of messages between him and his female friend on whatapps. It looks like they message on it during work, most evenings after work and occasionally on weekends. Now they are good friends so I would expect the to chat a bit but I now feel very insecure and jealous about the amount he talks to her! I read a large chuck of the messages and they are all totally innocent but it just really bothered me.

I checked his normal text messages because my Husband specifically mentioned that she should read her text messages in an email he sent last week. I may be being over suspicious or paranoid but I definitely feel like he's been deleting some of the messages. I also got the impression from one conversation just before the bank holiday they were meeting up somewhere. It was a bit odd as it was clearly during the day at work. He said he was leaving now and she said see you in 5 minutes. I don't really see why they would need to go meet up somewhere as they sit near each other

I can't decide if I should believe my husband or not when he says he didn't actually cheat. I also don't know how much I trust his friendship with his friend. Its clear they are still very very close and talking all the time and although the chats are very innocent I have this gnawing feeling that he's deleting messages again. He would only be doing that if he had something to hide. He's very open with his phone, laptop and work laptop which makes me feel like I must be being silly. If he was cheating he wouldn't let me near them surely?!

In all their chats I've seen no mention of the original OW so I fully believe him when he says he cut all contact with her but this last week I've been questioning his "friendship" with this female friend. I feel like they are too close but he obviously has no intentions of giving up his friendship with her

She is in a long term relationship, engaged with 2 daughters

I realise this was very long but I really needed to get it off my chest

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cozietoesie · 20/09/2015 19:32

Now would probably be a good time to see a solicitor I think. Do you have someone that you could use at an early stage?

(And what if he does get together with FF? She's not getting the bargain of the century, is she? I'm concerned for her children (and yours) but not for that pair.)

Cherrybakewells1 · 20/09/2015 19:48

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ravenmum · 20/09/2015 19:51

It might last. What with all the fuss, they will feel invested in the relationship; it won't be so easy to split up without looking (even more) stupid. My husband and his bit on the side are still together a year and a half after we split. I am pleased they are still together, as they both have the lying, cheating partner they deserve.

Justaboy · 20/09/2015 20:27

lydiajane01 Poor you. I've been through a similar thing but that was nipped in the bud and very severely. I went and challenged the other man to "step outside" or else;! OK a bit 2001 BC but it stopped the rot in time.

The wally wouldn't rise to the request so I told him that he was a coward right in front of his workmates and her it was worth it:-) OK not everyone can do that but an earlier poster said that his risked a lot for a fuck but it's not that simple why would he risk all what he has for a leg over there's thousands of escorts around he could have done that with one of them if was all he wanted and he as a married man shouldn't be doing that anyway.

It makes me wonder why he married you in the first place not for a moment to suggest there is any thing of a short coming with you at all but it does seem to me that it provably wasn't right from the word go. Still he's got more grief to come when he gets in front of that judge in the divorce court you've got the upper hand there and that'll cost him I hope she was worth it 'cos its gonna cost him now!.

Look on the bright side if you will, least you didn't have that other child with him that's a blessing. I hope that you find a decent man if you do, they it seems are as rare as rocking horse muck, that knows how to treat a woman and loves you for who and what you are:)

lydiajane01 · 20/09/2015 20:48

I'm curious to know how it went with FF and her partner but thats because in my own selfish bitch way I want her to hurt as much as I am right now.

Part of me thinks they are welcome to each other but another part of me is just irrationally angry at the idea that THEY did WRONG and although there will be fall out at the end of the day they will have each other at least and from what I know of their friendship they get on REALLY well so I can imagine them being happy. As much as t hurts me to say ... I don't really understand why in these situations the wrong doers always seem to get the better end of the deal.

cherry I am back at work. I only work Part Time and its been hard to concentrate but actually I find it harder at home because at least at work I have something to focus on where as at home all I do is cry and get angry. I can't bare the sight of 90% of the things in my house

My two closest friends have rallied round me and tried to offer me as much support as possible. I seem to find myself comparing me to FF and trying to work out why he'd risk everything for her

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cozietoesie · 20/09/2015 21:04

He didn't think he would be risking everything is why - he thought he'd get away with it, especially after last time.

Why don't you start putting things in one room for disposal if they really annoy you?

cozietoesie · 20/09/2015 21:05

PS - if he actually thought at all. (Frequently, people don't.)

lydiajane01 · 20/09/2015 21:10

cozietoesie sadly I cannot afford a whole new house worth of furniture!

I guess he didn't he obviously though i;d be stupid enough to take him back again or that I just wouldn't find out. I actually find it rather insulting how little he thought of me.

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bjrce · 20/09/2015 21:28

It's easy to get on well when you work with someone, nuou only get their "best" side. Ip to this point they thought they were fooling everyone, well of course they weren't not even you dc.
If you can, try amd put out of your mind the thoughts of them getting together, its early days right now, even if they do. It's not going up be all sunshine and roses, it will all be in the open, they know everyone will see right through their sordit affair and how they got together.
I agree with a pp, he is trying to scare you talking about custody, he is a callous shit. If he starts going down that road, hit him with, signing over the house to you, that will fuvk him off, when it comes to finances, reality hits men every time.
You sound like a v good person. If you can engage with him as little as possible, HD us wrecking your head.
Don't torture yourself as to why he did this, he did it because he wanted to and sy didn't love you enough to do the right thing.
Try and concentrate on your health and your dc, take all the help you can get from your friends right now.

Cherrybakewells1 · 20/09/2015 21:41

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bjrce · 20/09/2015 21:53

Op,

Meant to say, what ever about having an affair and how ever bad that is.

It takes a particularly low class person (ow) to go to the cheaters home, remove her clothing with all his family belongings and photos right there in her face and have sex with him. She is one cheap whore and what's more, no matter how this all pans out, you ( all you family and friends) your h and the ow will know this, she has absolutely no morals or integrity and you will always have the upper hand. Remember that.

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