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New job, same old H issues. Remind me to LTB!

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thatsnotmynamereally · 29/08/2015 08:55

Complicated (or possibly not!) situation with emotionally abusive, whining, generally pathetic H ...and I can't seem to see the forest for the trees right now. I've posted about him loads, he ticks so many 'abuser' boxes, looking back over how our relationship evolved there were red flags waving everywhere but I never thought it was his fault, only mine for not trying hard enough.

In a nutshell: I worked basically full time while the DCs were young, stopped at his suggestion when oldest started A levels (as he said it would be All My Fault if the DCs didn't do well, only one chance etc) which was fine as he was earning plenty of money. DCs have done great. But our relationship gradually deteriorated with me 'not working' (I had to be on call all the time to do things for him) and even though he would constantly berate me for NOT working, saying he didn't see what I did all day, insults like 'never done a days work' he was furious when I got a job without asking him 2 years ago when youngest started uni. He'd done his best to convince me I was unemployable, too old, wrong qualifications, etc, I got a job with no effort whatsoever. A lowly job, but interesting and in my field, all the same, and a great experience.

Sorry this isn't really a nutshell! We had a major incident just after I started working (will try to find the link to remind myself as I had a thread going at the time but in the end I brushed it under the carpet). H continued to belittle and make fun of my job, always said the name of where I was working with a sneer, assumed I could run errands for him while at work, called and texted constantly, often over 50 times times in a day. Work people were wonderful and tolerated my bad timekeeping (and often tears) but I always knew I would eventually have to move on to a new position one day as the work was short term contract. Basically, I kept everything together, afraid to topple what was/is a house of cards.

A month ago I realised my contract was coming to an end so put my cv in with an agency. I immediately got an interview and a job offer for a fantastic job. I accepted. I told H. Not a lot but I did tell him as a statement of fact that I'd done it. He NEVER asked any details and I never offered any. He acknowledged by text I'd got a job ('lets celebrate' when he wanted my to go to a function in town with him) so he can't say he didn't know. As expected, when he found out I am starting Tuesday he's alternatively furious and begging me not to take it. If you're wondering why I have stayed with him- he earns more money than I ever could. He just put the equivalent of a years wages for me into our joint account. And my work has never been stable, probably because of him for a large part.

He says he just doesn't see why I want to work, why I don't want to 'be a wife' to him...it's really pathetic, isn't it? Tbh we can certainly use the extra money I bring in, we have no pensions set up so need to focus on saving for the next 10 years (I am 50) and it's not time to start spending down our assets.

So...this morning I've had him on the phone begging me not to take the job. How pathetic is that. There's an additional complication in that we may be selling our house, he'd assumed that we'd move into our weekend place which would mean a hellish commute for me to new job, I'd assumed if the sale went through I'd rent. By myself. Now is the time to get out...right? I keep hesitating and I could totally screw things up if I get this wrong. For a lot of people. House people, job people (will be distraught if I don't turn up!), plus I've left other job now. I feel strangely calm but am worried he's going to turn psychopath if I don't pretend to be going along with him.

OP posts:
Twinklestein · 04/09/2015 14:11

Im glad you feel life is progressing with your new job and new friends.I'm sorry you don't feel counselling helped OP. Was it with someone who specialised in domestic abuse?

Have you done the Freedom Programme? That might help.

The question you need to find the answer to within yourself is why you 'just can't take the decisive action to serving papers'.

By your own account, waiting for the marriage to 'fizzle out' isn't working.

To get out you need to accept the following:

  • The marriage will not peter out naturally, as DH does not want it to end
  • He's unlikely agree to divorce
  • You do not need his permission to divorce
  • He's unlikely not to create massive dramas over it
  • He may rip up every petition he gets and you need to carry on regardless

That's why posters previously suggested that you get your own place lined up so you don't have to deal with the fallout of the divorce.

The most important thing, once make the decision to end the marriage, is to recognise that none of the stink that he kicks up is anything to do with you anymore. And stick to it.

trackrBird · 04/09/2015 20:19

I hope your first week has been OK, thatsnot.
I know that counselling doesn't always hit the spot. Sometimes, rarely, you can even be worse off. It depends on the therapy type, and especially the relationship with the counsellor.

The freedom programme is the one to try, if you can.

The best way to detach from someone is physical absence, and no contact, IMO. It's about 80% of the work needed anyway. Because it is very, very hard to detach from someone like this when they direct their aggressive energy at you - even with the best strategies in the world, even if you think you are tough enough to handle it now, etc. They will tend to suck you in anyway. If you don't engage, or are not there, it can't happen.

CharlotteCollins · 06/09/2015 19:05

Hope the weekend has been OK, thats. I know weekends can be tough.

Any progress with flats?

Thinking of you!

RandomMess · 06/09/2015 19:29

Thinking of you.

TBH don't bother with trying to find a rental - slum it with sharers if need be in a place convenient for work.

He may be able to convince himself it's just because of the travel meanwhile you will have your freedom and can buy or rent properly at your leisure.

He will cling onto you and try EVERYTHING to keep you it's part of his abusive nature because he thinks he owns you.

Flowers
thatsnotmynamereally · 07/09/2015 07:47

Thanks all, I've actually had a great weekend! I've decided not to rent a flat immediately, mainly because of the hassle (needing proof on income was a problem previously because my meagre wage won't substantiate circa 12-1500k per month rental so need cash upfront) but also I haven't seen anything I felt was worth the money. I've had offers from friends to stay with them so am going to try that. 2 weeks to go so I may change my mind a few times yet.

Main thing right now is the job! I love it and need to focus on that entirely. Any housing situation will be purely for dormitory purposes. I'm not 'missing' the family home like I thought I would, it's a potentially lovely house but I feel somewhat liberated and lighter already. The 10+ years we've lived here haven't been particularly happy.

i need to get an account sorted out for the proceeds of the house sale to go into. Need to sort out the logistics so it's watertight, will speak to bank today. H isn't vicious at all right now, of course he thinks he's getting his way (a few comments over the weekend about me working causing him hassle, he wants to go 'on holiday' but I made it clear I'm not taking any time off) so as I've got loads to organise over the next week I'm not rocking the boat. Sorry if this sounds like backtracking, I don't feel that it is. I feel exhilarated by the possibilities of having a nice job and money in the bank and not being tied down!

OP posts:
tribpot · 07/09/2015 08:14

Once you have the proceeds you can offer a landlord 6 months' rent in cash - that's the usual way for people with no credit history to be a good bet for a tenancy in my experience - I rented our flat to a couple who'd been abroad for several years and were coming back to establish a photography business and this was what they offered to offset the fact they couldn't prove a regular income. You need to be realistic about rents - I'd imagine the reason you haven't seen anything worth the money is because you know the money is going to pay someone else's mortgage/make them a profit. But renting buys you freedom, which is worth a great deal more.

It's fantastic that the job is going so well, but you really need to keep your plans on track so that he doesn't find a way to sabotage it.

Joysmum · 07/09/2015 08:32

Was about to say the same. I'm a landlord and 6 months rent upfront or high deposit is pretty normal for the self employed who can't prove income.

Optimist1 · 07/09/2015 09:07

Sorry if I haven't read the thread properly but does he actually know your plans? It sounds as though you've been organising things covertly and he's oblivious to your true intentions.

I fear that your decision to stay temporarily for dormitory purposes with friends indicates a reluctance to commit to a home of your own without him.

As a PP said, you're obviously an able person and have achieved a great deal so far. 50 is a great age and you've got happy years ahead of you unfettered by your hopefully soon to be ex husband. But the fact of the matter is that as each year passes you will become a little less employable, a little less energetic and a lot more ground down by your marriage. NOW is the time!

ponygirlcurtis · 07/09/2015 17:53

How did you get on at the bank thats? Have you already sorted with the solicitor that half the house sale proceeds are to go to you separately to H? Will be thinking of you for the next two weeks to go fast. Glad you are enjoying the new job.

RandomSocks · 11/09/2015 10:15

Did you manage to get the bank account sorted out, OP?

FantasticButtocks · 13/09/2015 17:57

Congrats on finding a job you clearly enjoy! And this time he's not going to ruin it, because once the house is sold, he's going to move to your weekend place and you're not. So it sounds as though some progress has happened. You are fifty and you are free Grin (unless I've got this wrong) H does realise, does he, that you're not moving to the weekend place with him and commuting to work? Finding a satisfactory living arrangement for yourself will seal the deal.

Best of luck Thanks

IonaNE · 13/09/2015 20:42

OP, I have not read your previous threads, only this.
But I agree with Twinkle and AF and I don't think you are actually going to leave him.
Please prove me wrong.

Elizabethreallyismissing · 15/09/2015 21:44

How are you getting on? Has your house sold, are you staying with your friends now? Please keep posting!

ponygirlcurtis · 24/09/2015 21:06

Hey thats, hope you are ok, thinking of you.

CharlotteCollins · 26/09/2015 13:03

Hi, thats, how are things? Is the house sold now? Work still going well?

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