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New job, same old H issues. Remind me to LTB!

115 replies

thatsnotmynamereally · 29/08/2015 08:55

Complicated (or possibly not!) situation with emotionally abusive, whining, generally pathetic H ...and I can't seem to see the forest for the trees right now. I've posted about him loads, he ticks so many 'abuser' boxes, looking back over how our relationship evolved there were red flags waving everywhere but I never thought it was his fault, only mine for not trying hard enough.

In a nutshell: I worked basically full time while the DCs were young, stopped at his suggestion when oldest started A levels (as he said it would be All My Fault if the DCs didn't do well, only one chance etc) which was fine as he was earning plenty of money. DCs have done great. But our relationship gradually deteriorated with me 'not working' (I had to be on call all the time to do things for him) and even though he would constantly berate me for NOT working, saying he didn't see what I did all day, insults like 'never done a days work' he was furious when I got a job without asking him 2 years ago when youngest started uni. He'd done his best to convince me I was unemployable, too old, wrong qualifications, etc, I got a job with no effort whatsoever. A lowly job, but interesting and in my field, all the same, and a great experience.

Sorry this isn't really a nutshell! We had a major incident just after I started working (will try to find the link to remind myself as I had a thread going at the time but in the end I brushed it under the carpet). H continued to belittle and make fun of my job, always said the name of where I was working with a sneer, assumed I could run errands for him while at work, called and texted constantly, often over 50 times times in a day. Work people were wonderful and tolerated my bad timekeeping (and often tears) but I always knew I would eventually have to move on to a new position one day as the work was short term contract. Basically, I kept everything together, afraid to topple what was/is a house of cards.

A month ago I realised my contract was coming to an end so put my cv in with an agency. I immediately got an interview and a job offer for a fantastic job. I accepted. I told H. Not a lot but I did tell him as a statement of fact that I'd done it. He NEVER asked any details and I never offered any. He acknowledged by text I'd got a job ('lets celebrate' when he wanted my to go to a function in town with him) so he can't say he didn't know. As expected, when he found out I am starting Tuesday he's alternatively furious and begging me not to take it. If you're wondering why I have stayed with him- he earns more money than I ever could. He just put the equivalent of a years wages for me into our joint account. And my work has never been stable, probably because of him for a large part.

He says he just doesn't see why I want to work, why I don't want to 'be a wife' to him...it's really pathetic, isn't it? Tbh we can certainly use the extra money I bring in, we have no pensions set up so need to focus on saving for the next 10 years (I am 50) and it's not time to start spending down our assets.

So...this morning I've had him on the phone begging me not to take the job. How pathetic is that. There's an additional complication in that we may be selling our house, he'd assumed that we'd move into our weekend place which would mean a hellish commute for me to new job, I'd assumed if the sale went through I'd rent. By myself. Now is the time to get out...right? I keep hesitating and I could totally screw things up if I get this wrong. For a lot of people. House people, job people (will be distraught if I don't turn up!), plus I've left other job now. I feel strangely calm but am worried he's going to turn psychopath if I don't pretend to be going along with him.

OP posts:
wickedwaterwitch · 29/08/2015 10:58

You need a kick ass lawyer

Sell the house, take your half and LTB. Good luck.

BeyonceRiRiMadonnna · 29/08/2015 11:06

Hi OP, I will get flamed for this I'm sure, but having read your post this stood out for me "How pathetic is that?" in reference to your H, I think the pathetic person here is you. You admit to posting previously, you admit to receiving good advice, and you've continued to ignore ignore ignore ignore.

YOU need to stop being the pathetic one and take control of your life, your happiness and your future.

  1. Gather all necessary paperwork, place in a safe hiding place.
  2. Tuesday make an appointment to see a solicitor.
  3. Follow through with the divorce

You're stuck in a vicious cycle of your own making, time to get out!

thatsnotmynamereally · 29/08/2015 11:12

Wow, I'd like to get Flowers for each and every one of you, thanks so much! I have been wavering and keeping my head down but am so glad I've posted now. I see my fabulous new life as exactly that-- a time to concentrate on myself and make this next decade as exciting as it can/will be, and I can look back on the time the DCs were growing up with fondness, I'm proud to bursting of them and they both see that H is doing me down, even though I try to dress it up by pointing out his good qualities (he does have some). I was the one who put the brakes on the house sale yesterday as the new buyers wanted to move in next week...and all I was thinking about was that it would screw up my new job which I start Tuesday, we hadn't been told of their urgency to move in (£&@/ agents!) but now it may look like they could agree to a couple of weeks later. If sale doesn't go through we'll just re market house but I'll feel the weight of his wrath because I prioritised my new job over selling.

Goddess thanks for nailing the issues there. This morning I've had him on the phone (he's at weekend house FFS, what about packing up this place?) and I said I reserved the right to rent a room if the commute didn't work for me, he's saying that he sees it as a waste of money but...I'll be earning money?! So I'll go along with the commute plans to keep him off the trail, I can rent a place quickly if I need to, there is enough money for a deposit available and I don't need to feel guilty about being stealthy.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 29/08/2015 11:19

LEAVE, LEAVE, LEAVE

Can I come around and help you pack?

He is going to continue to be unreasonable, difficult and emotionally abusive forever. Get out now and build a life without that poison in it.

You deserve so much more Flowers

thatsnotmynamereally · 29/08/2015 11:22

beyonce I know I am pathetic. But I haven't been idle and have carved out a lot more support for myself, I'm desperately afraid of leaving him and screwing up. It may happen that I can't cope on my own, I might be crap at new job and the sack me, H is generous financially and a nice guy when he gets his way. Other people see only the talented, eccentric part of him, and think I enjoy our chaotic life.

Btw pathetic has been the tone of his voice this morning, crying because he is 'stressed' at the house situation even though I've done all the dealing with solicitors and agents, every bit, and he ran off and left me to deal with it!

Thank you AF I'm definitely taking the new job and starting new life but if house sale falls through I will most likely be pot sitting for a tiny bit longer.

OP posts:
CheeseToastie123 · 29/08/2015 11:23

You have a year's salary equivalent sat in the bank. Rent somewhere now. Pay a year's rent upfront if you like. You have the cushion so many people crave to leave safely. Lawyer up, get out, be happy.

thatsnotmynamereally · 29/08/2015 11:26

Random --yes please! Grin actually I'm pretty well organised with my stuff, I rented a storage unit already which he doesn't know about and I've been siphoning off over a couple of weeks already. Things I like are being packed away, and I'm quite looking forward to taking crockery, etc that I don't like to the tip! Fresh start for next time.

OP posts:
thatsnotmynamereally · 29/08/2015 11:28

PS didn't mention, divorce petition is ready to go and I checked out the situation re house proceeds with solicitor, he sounded thrilled for me on the phone, no worries.

Now off to pack!

OP posts:
goddessofsmallthings · 29/08/2015 11:31

There's nothing wrong with sitting on a pot of money waiting for the right time to put it to good use, but what account will the proceeds of the sale of the house go into?

RandomMess · 29/08/2015 11:40

The only reason why you are doubting yourself are the many, many years you've been told that you are only good enough to be a servant...

NicoleWatterson · 29/08/2015 11:47

Wine to your new life (well it is nearly the afternoon)
It sounds like you really have everything in order and have had your lightbulb moment to finally make that jump.

Lets be honest its easier for you to pack (and keep the things you want!) whilst he isn't there, so i think he's probably done you a favour being in the weekend house. Its probably also easier keeping up the pretence on the phone, i know i found that as i was preparing my jump.

Good luck, I hope the sale keeps on track as it sounds like it will make life easier - although you've even got your back up plan sorted! You know this anyway, but be on guard whilst you start your new job, he will feel the power slide as you start it.

tribpot · 29/08/2015 11:49

There will always be a reason for you to 'hang on a bit longer', to prevaricate and pretend you are going to 'see how things go' with this or that. If you could pull off the last job with poor timekeeping and the multiple other sabotaging distractions by him, you should ace this one.

I can't understand what stage you're at with the house you're currently packing up - the buyers are due to move in next week? Why would you be trying to stop that at this stage? Contracts must be about to be exchanged, surely?

Let the house go - pack whatever you don't want and send it to him at the weekend house, take the stuff you don't want and move into a place of your own. Don't fanny about 'seeing how the commute goes', (a) you know it will be shit (b) he will attempt to sabotage this job as he did the last one and (c) why move twice? You want to stay near work, so stay near work. You don't need his permission or agreement.

Then you need to anticipate how he will sabotage the job, i.e. you absolutely must divert his calls and texts during work hours.

changeizgonnacome · 29/08/2015 11:52

No money or comfortable lifestyle in the WORLD could make me stay with a man like this. He sounds hideous,

Get out now while you can! Good luck x

timeou · 29/08/2015 11:55

Good Luck OP, keep strong - you can do it!

Hissy · 29/08/2015 12:00

Excellent advice here. I remember this guy, he was the one demanding you go to the weekend place once when you didn't want to, u think it was after the police cells business.

Take the money and rent a place and yes, absolutely don't take his calls. Get a new phone with a new number and migrate everyone except him on to the new number.

Joysmum · 29/08/2015 12:08

'm desperately afraid of leaving him and screwing up. It may happen that I can't cope on my own

Oh come on now, have you not noticed how many complete fuckwits there are in this world who manage to live independently?

You've successfully raised children and are dealing with the legalities of your house sale in spite of your loser of a husband, not because of him.

Seriously, wake up a smell the coffee! He's been putting you down for so long he's conditioned you to think you need him, you don't Flowers

Hissy · 29/08/2015 12:09

Remember that abusive bullies do so from WEAKNESS not power.

You have the power here, and he knows it, which can is why he tries to sabotage you.

Get badass on him EVERY TIME he tries to get in the way of your work/life. He doesn't have the balls to rise to anything, the only way he gets power is to hobble those around him!

CalmYourselfTubbs · 29/08/2015 12:09

agree with everyone else.
its time to bail.
get out, move on with your life and well done for having to courage to make a break from this utter prick.

Elizabethreallyismissing · 29/08/2015 12:44

Please do not pretend to be 'going along' with anything! You'll get sucked in again and before you know it you'll be living in the weekend house, struggling to get to work & ringing your hands about wether or not you should leave him! He's abusive, we can all see that, not one person has said otherwise! Please just take a deep breath & go for it!

BrucieTheShark · 29/08/2015 12:53

I don't understand why you're packing to go to the holiday house.

I would be putting a deposit down on a rental place right now and moving my stuff into that. I would also be moving half the joint account money into my own account moments after the house sale completes. I don't see there is any need to tell him about any of that though.

I feel he will somehow sabotage your job and/or threaten violence again if you are trapped in the holiday house with him.

BrucieTheShark · 29/08/2015 12:54

Ah sorry, missed the post about a storage unit - good start!

MangoBiscuit · 29/08/2015 12:54

thatsnot, your OP gave me goosebumps. Your DH sounds so calculating and manipulative. So sorry you've had to deal with all that. Sounds like you're being smart though, planning your move, getting all your ducks in a line before letting on to him. Stay strong. Flowers

BeyonceRiRiMadonnna · 29/08/2015 13:11

H is generous financially and a nice guy when he gets his way
So he controls you with money and you love the money so you stay. For you it seems it all boils down to the money.

.....pathetic has been the tone of his voice this morning, crying because he is 'stressed' at the house situation even though I've done all the dealing with solicitors and agents, every bit, and he ran off and left me to deal with it!

So you are very capable of dealing with everything by yourself anyway, IF you leave you'll continue to cope and deal with everything.

OP you just need to decide how much your freedom and happiness are worth and I'm not talking £££££?!?!?!?!

SmillasSenseOfSnow · 29/08/2015 13:29

Btw pathetic has been the tone of his voice this morning, crying because he is 'stressed' at the house situation even though I've done all the dealing with solicitors and agents, every bit, and he ran off and left me to deal with it!

You do realise that he's only doing this because he's getting desperate after you've so far refused to jack in the new job and are turning down his stupid bribes? He says he'll go to counselling, he has loads of money, he wants you to consent to being under his control again. He's trying to buy your soul, essentially. I agree with PP that there is nothing subtle about this.

RandomSocks · 29/08/2015 16:14

Take the new job. Put your house on the market. Let him move to the other house. Rent a room close to your new workplace. Buy a new place once you get the proceeds from the house. Smile

Clever thinking with the storage unit (doesn't he notice things are leaving the house?)

Good luck and Flowers

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