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New job, same old H issues. Remind me to LTB!

115 replies

thatsnotmynamereally · 29/08/2015 08:55

Complicated (or possibly not!) situation with emotionally abusive, whining, generally pathetic H ...and I can't seem to see the forest for the trees right now. I've posted about him loads, he ticks so many 'abuser' boxes, looking back over how our relationship evolved there were red flags waving everywhere but I never thought it was his fault, only mine for not trying hard enough.

In a nutshell: I worked basically full time while the DCs were young, stopped at his suggestion when oldest started A levels (as he said it would be All My Fault if the DCs didn't do well, only one chance etc) which was fine as he was earning plenty of money. DCs have done great. But our relationship gradually deteriorated with me 'not working' (I had to be on call all the time to do things for him) and even though he would constantly berate me for NOT working, saying he didn't see what I did all day, insults like 'never done a days work' he was furious when I got a job without asking him 2 years ago when youngest started uni. He'd done his best to convince me I was unemployable, too old, wrong qualifications, etc, I got a job with no effort whatsoever. A lowly job, but interesting and in my field, all the same, and a great experience.

Sorry this isn't really a nutshell! We had a major incident just after I started working (will try to find the link to remind myself as I had a thread going at the time but in the end I brushed it under the carpet). H continued to belittle and make fun of my job, always said the name of where I was working with a sneer, assumed I could run errands for him while at work, called and texted constantly, often over 50 times times in a day. Work people were wonderful and tolerated my bad timekeeping (and often tears) but I always knew I would eventually have to move on to a new position one day as the work was short term contract. Basically, I kept everything together, afraid to topple what was/is a house of cards.

A month ago I realised my contract was coming to an end so put my cv in with an agency. I immediately got an interview and a job offer for a fantastic job. I accepted. I told H. Not a lot but I did tell him as a statement of fact that I'd done it. He NEVER asked any details and I never offered any. He acknowledged by text I'd got a job ('lets celebrate' when he wanted my to go to a function in town with him) so he can't say he didn't know. As expected, when he found out I am starting Tuesday he's alternatively furious and begging me not to take it. If you're wondering why I have stayed with him- he earns more money than I ever could. He just put the equivalent of a years wages for me into our joint account. And my work has never been stable, probably because of him for a large part.

He says he just doesn't see why I want to work, why I don't want to 'be a wife' to him...it's really pathetic, isn't it? Tbh we can certainly use the extra money I bring in, we have no pensions set up so need to focus on saving for the next 10 years (I am 50) and it's not time to start spending down our assets.

So...this morning I've had him on the phone begging me not to take the job. How pathetic is that. There's an additional complication in that we may be selling our house, he'd assumed that we'd move into our weekend place which would mean a hellish commute for me to new job, I'd assumed if the sale went through I'd rent. By myself. Now is the time to get out...right? I keep hesitating and I could totally screw things up if I get this wrong. For a lot of people. House people, job people (will be distraught if I don't turn up!), plus I've left other job now. I feel strangely calm but am worried he's going to turn psychopath if I don't pretend to be going along with him.

OP posts:
sonjadog · 29/08/2015 16:18

You are 50 now. How many years have you been with this man who makes you unhappy? If your kids are finished university then I would guess maybe 25-30 years? So over half your life has been spent on a man who isn't nice to you. You can keep putting it off and suddenly you will be retired and stuck with a man whom you dislike for the rest of your days. Is that really what you want in life? Is that going to be your legacy? You spent your life unhappy because you were frightened of losing a nice home and not having a lot of money (in spite of having a good job of your own). Come on. You owe yourself to leave now. Give yourself the chance for happiness.

trackrBird · 29/08/2015 19:04

Good luck.

This is the best time to move on: you have your health, your own income and your skills are in demand. So you have choices. Don't wait any longer, because things can change in ways you don't expect.

The going's good now - so keep going! A great future awaits.

Flowers
WandaFuca · 29/08/2015 19:20

Something Hissy said reminded me that I’ve read at least one of your previous threads.

It’s not about the money/house/possessions, it’s about this man having made you believe that you can’t be independent of him.

It’s natural to feel a bit wobbly at this stage, because it must feel as though you are about to step out into the great unknown without a safety net.

But you’ve already started weaving your own safety net. You know you can get a job (twice!) and can hold down a job and do it well and be a valued member of staff. You’ve got your ducks in a row with the storage unit and the solicitor. You’ve got enough money to rent a place for yourself, even if you have to gradually get it furnished. I dare say your children will help you out, as well.

It often does take quite a time for women who have been controlled and manipulated for as long as you have, to eventually get out into freedom, but you are almost there. Don’t fret about the house sale – even if the current sale falls through, it will eventually be sold as part of the divorce proceedings.

Keep holding on to the vision of what you want, because you are the one who really matters.

CharlotteCollins · 29/08/2015 19:51

Get a head start on your new life, by not sharing your plans with him and by not listening to what he thinks.

Hissy · 29/08/2015 20:46

I could be mistaken, wanda but the weekend place rings a bell..

mix56 · 29/08/2015 21:46

You now have your head in the right place. The kids are set up, you have known but waited & are in exactly the right place to move on & make the rest of your life WORTH LIVING, for you & your children & future grandchildren.
Remember half the pot is yours.
Please look for a lovely flat, double check with super red hot legals-
& take yourself off to it !!
Yay........Free to live finally

thatsnotmynamereally · 01/09/2015 22:15

First day at work-tick. Was great!
Contracts exchanged-tick.
But. H here tonight and we've had the biggest fight, he was upset because I haven't paid enough attention to him today. Ffs I was at new job... H, on the other hand, had a 'hard day' at work and was cross when I was late (public transport problems but I hadn't stated a time I'd be home anyway) and said that he was starving because there was no food in the house (not true) so I went by M&S (his idea) bought all his 'favourites' which ended up all over the floor when I totally lost control after a solid 2 hours of whining from him, he'd realised I have a 'secret' storage place as I'd packed away a visible piece of furniture (my family heirloom, long story).

I did wrong, thought I could handle this abuse but when he complained about dinner because it hadn't been cooked with love I lost it and threw everything on the floor. Sad wish me luck, I've had over a bottle of wine and need to get up tomorrow morning in a good frame of mind.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 01/09/2015 22:18

OMG you cannot leave him soon enough.

Flowers
CharlotteCollins · 01/09/2015 22:22

That's great that you enjoyed your first day at work. Wine Well done, you.

As for the rest, imagine a bubble round you protecting you and separating you from all his twattish behaviour. Deep breaths.

Have you found a flat to rent? You need space from him. Don't let him screw up your new job or your bid for freedom. That's what he wants to do, of course. But you are so nearly there. KOKO, lovely. Brew

NicoleWatterson · 01/09/2015 22:32

Thank fuck you've exchanged.
Well done on your first day, I'm really pleased for you.

Of course he kicked off about him. Most husbands would have ordered a takeaway or sorted dinner so you could relax, first days always tiring.
Are you waiting for completion?

ijustwannadance · 01/09/2015 22:39

he complained about dinner because it hadn't been cooked with love

Wtaf! You should of chucked it at his head not on the floor.
Hadn't paid him enough attention. Is he 3 years old!?
He was just taking the piss because you weren't at home all day being a good wife with his dinner on the table.
A real man would've been waiting for you with flowers to congratulate your first day and ordered take away or cooked your tea.
Funny how he can cope with a high stress job but not looking after himself.

So glad your job went well, just imagine how peaceful it will be in your new flat not having to listen to his childish whining. WineFlowers

AnyFucker · 01/09/2015 22:40

I don't understand why you are trying to please him. Stop engaging.

CheddarGorgeous · 01/09/2015 22:42

I think I remember some of your previous threads. I wish you luck. It will be hard but it will be so worth it. You have a lot of living to do. Flowers

DoreenLethal · 01/09/2015 22:47

Please stop caring what he thinks!

Sleep, work, pack and get somewhere else sorted asap.

Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 01/09/2015 22:50

Sounds like you are doing well. When is completion? Have you somewhere to stay?

trackrBird · 02/09/2015 00:06

Sleep well tonight.
Your wellbeing, and your job, are much more important than this man or his dinner.
Is there anywhere you can stay temporarily? You need your focus and strength for yourself.

thatsnotmynamereally · 02/09/2015 05:04

Thanks all Flowers woke up at 3am (usual for me grrr) luckily not such a bad hangover as I really overdid the wine, will be going to get back to sleep for a couple of hours. Truth is, I'm such an abuse-able person (mother issues and low self esteem, etc) but right now my overwhelming feeling is boredom with the whole situation (and I've no doubt it is getting boring reading about the same old thing Grin), obviously he's going to step up the whining at this point. Yawn.

He acted so upset last night about the most ridiculous things, the food (I'd planned a dinner he didn't like, yawn again! So f-ing predictable), that I'd driven the car to near the tube station instead of 'suffering' the bus ride...what kind of person actually hopes their partner will have a bad time? I know I can't deal with him any more. I thought he'd stay at the other house but he same back yesterday. 2 weeks until completion...after last night I think we can't live together any more.

I always feel sad for H when things go wrong even if it's things I have no interest in or don't care about, for example his car which I really don't like but which is his pride and joy has always got some problem, ie the door won't open. My first instinct is to say haha...told you it was a stupid car, now the door won't open. But that's quickly followed by me feeling sorry for him because I know he cares about the car, so I hold my tongue. I truly think if the tables were turned he wouldn't give me the same consideration.

I'm a bit sad about the house, I wouldn't have preferred to sell it but it's the right thing to do, H hates it and if I'd fought to keep it even as part of a divorce settlement it would have fanned too many flames. I'm actually just a bit annoyed to have to look for somewhere to live, I'm just not interested right now, fed up with houses/property, thought I'd be excited about the possibilities of a new place but I'm just feeling deflated.

OP posts:
Samantha28 · 02/09/2015 05:21

Have you looked for property to rent in the area you want to live in near your new job ?

FishWithABicycle · 02/09/2015 07:05

You are doing brilliantly op. You have a great new life ahead of you.

antimatter · 02/09/2015 07:42

What does your divorce lawyer say?

FrancesNiadova · 02/09/2015 08:10

TNMNR, I've just looked at your old thread again; I remembered it. You posted about getting a non-mol order back in November '14 & went on to plan the sale of your house, a visit to your parents, a new job & you put down a deposit on a flat.
It's tempting to think Tick Tock, but you've been married for a long time; it will take time to come to final decisions & make the divorce happen.
Just keep your eyes on the prize of your independence, not having to re-make meals, "with love," & having your lovely DD & DS feel comfortable being able to visit & be relaxed. Flowers

TopOfTheCliff · 02/09/2015 08:43

Thats I've been on the EA Support thread with you over the years (NC) and cheering you on every time you get a step nearer the door. In the time you have been dithering considering his hurt feelings I have left my H got a divorce met a new DP bought a new house and now got engaged.

It won't get easier if you leave it longer. He won't be any more reasonable at any point in the future. It may even be easier for him to cope with the reality of you actually leaving him than living with the constant fear you are about to go. JUST DO IT!! Honestly you will be so glad when you are out, have switched your phone off and don't have to put up with his shit.

I once got into deep trouble for not dancing with my XH "in a loving way" when I had already said I didn't want to dance at all. So I understand the "not cooking with love" thing and it spells LEAVE HIM!!

bugslife · 02/09/2015 08:57

If you don't leave him, you will have a shit storm with no end in sight.

If you do, you will have a shit storm, but at the end of it lies happiness and independence.

Your choice, I wish you all the best.

CharlotteCollins · 02/09/2015 09:06

If last night renewed your realisation that you can't live together, then it was as well it happened. It is shitty that you have to leave that house because of him. It is understandable that you have no enthusiasm about finding a new place. He has ground you down so far! But this is the opportunity you have been waiting for. Time to grit your teeth, put your feelings and worries to one side and just do it. Find a flat you think you could love if you could be bothered (! I'm sure you know what to look out for), keep soldiering on in that bubble till you get into the flat.

Not long now. Imagine having dinner in your flat, by yourself, music in the background, time to unwind. It's so close. Don't engage with him tonight. Look for flats instead.

nauticant · 02/09/2015 09:31

I think this might have been asked before OP but where will the proceeds of the house sale go? It would be a good idea for you to get your share straight away rather than the full amount going into a joint account or an account controlled only by your STBX. Would you be able to raise this with the solicitor?

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