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Fiancé revealed something the other day...

354 replies

Serenstar83 · 23/07/2015 20:27

Hi, I really need some advice.

I've been with my partner for 4 months and we recently got engaged. It's quick, but we feel more for each other than we ever have for anyone else and just feels 'right'.

He makes me laugh, feel safe, wanted, loved, I have three children that he is great with and he is just generally a lovely guy...perfect for me I would say.

However. The other day we were chatting about something, and he revealed that years ago he had been paid to beat people up! He was very vague and refuses to discuss it in any more detail, saying it was the past and none of my business, but obviously I feel very uncomfortable with this...he can't understand why, saying everyone else he has mentioned it to has seen his point of view "eventually" - that it was just a job to him and "premeditated, I'd never go out and beat someone up after going out on the lash or anything".

He also today revealed that "I wake up angry and go to bed angry, during the day is hard work but I can control it".
I've seen a few hints of possible...mental illness maybe...? - he gets very visibly anxious sometimes; scratching his head or arms (not hard) and seems visibly worked up, but it passes fairly quickly especially if I mention it. The other day he went shopping for me and couldn't find the cheese I had asked for, came back and said he had almost burst into tears over not being able to find this cheese. He said it's very out of character for him and his head feels 'muddled' at the moment.

On occasion he seems different, a kind of cold look in his eye and he has said that people have mentioned this before. He also said that an ex paid for private counselling for him once but it didn't help at all.

What worries me is earlier I asked if he would see his GP and try to get referred to the local mental health team to get checked over if I asked him to and he said that no, he never would as he doesn't see the need. He is "fine and able to control it" and he doesn't see the point in getting checked out, even if I feel very uncomfortable with him not getting checked over.

We were sort of arguing when this last bit was brought up so maybe he might be more willing to try and see a doctor at another time, but I am really worried about this past beating people up thing, and the fact he says he gets angry when he wakes up and goes to sleep. He says he has past issues that he thinks has caused this but I know he would never hurt me or my children at all.

I feel so happy with him, and I do trust him, feel safe, all of that. But am I right to be concerned about his past or should I just get over it and move on?

OP posts:
MissBattleaxe · 24/07/2015 10:28

How did you get an enhanced DBS if you have past convictions?

forumdonkey · 24/07/2015 10:29

I wondered that Missbattleaxe

Cabrinha · 24/07/2015 10:31

If you're still in a place where a new boyfriend have ONE PINT of lager makes you cry, then your child free time should be spent in therapy, not dating.

Are you REALLY this shit a mother? Really?

Blossomflowers · 24/07/2015 10:39

OP, oh dear I lived with someone with MH issues and it had a huge impact on my son. I agree with everyone that 4 months is far to early to be getting engaged. You need to take a massive step back from this. Do you live tog already?

PacificDogwood · 24/07/2015 10:40

Anger/physical violence does not = mental illness.

He does not see a problem so there is NOTHING you can do to change anything about his anger or his behaviour.

You can go and address your own issues. Get yourself sorted out, access counselling/psychological therapies, look at your previous abusive relationships, your behaviour - do all this while you are not in any relationship. Only when you are in a good place with a better understanding about yourself and was entails a healthy relationship, consider entering in one with somebody else than this man again.

Only1scoop · 24/07/2015 10:44

Enhanced checks would show your convictions.

Helping vulnerable people?

Start by your helping your own children. They are vulnerable to your awful choices and normalising this shite.

Bloody disgraceful if true

Floggingmolly · 24/07/2015 10:45

...in the way that he TESTS me. Is this a typo? In what way should a couple "test" each other? This whole thing is so fucked up it's scary.
Some posters think you're a troll. I hope they're right.

clam · 24/07/2015 10:46

Cabrinha Grin (although this isn't really a laughing matter).

So, we've got the OP crying over a pint of lager, and her bloke crying because he couldn't find the cheese in a supermarket?

Not dysfunctional at all!

clam · 24/07/2015 10:47

And doesn't it kind of negate the worth of DRB checks if these two and their antics have slipped through unnoticed?

chrome100 · 24/07/2015 10:52

I wouldn't necessarily advise you to LTB, but there's a good reason people don't marry after 4 months -you simply can't know someone after such a short period.

Why not spend time getting to know him, find out his quirks, his past, what you like (and crucially) don't like about him.

Then, if after a few years, you're happy, get married then.

Don't rush this.

lunar1 · 24/07/2015 10:54

Bloody hell If this is real do your children have grandparents? If they do let your babies stay there, get rid of the thug, sort out you anger/impulsive issues. Don't try and pass off your behaviour as anxiety, you are violent. If you can manage to sort yourself out concentrate on making a life for yourself and your children.

Floggingmolly · 24/07/2015 10:55

Yes, it's very worrying if it actually happened, clam.

forumdonkey · 24/07/2015 10:57

What I don't get with this and similar in RL and on here, is how women from past abusive and violent relationships can move on and in with men they hardly know so quickly. Speaking for myself, I find it hard to trust and am overly cautious about getting involved with new relationships due to what I went through with my violent ex.

AllThatGlistens · 24/07/2015 10:58

Oh dear god..

Bubblesinthesummer · 24/07/2015 11:03

Yes, we both had enhanced DRB's as we work for a charity helping vulnerable people

So with convictions for harassment, and violence etc you passed a DBS Angry

Blossomflowers · 24/07/2015 11:08

So of you are not being helpful if this is for real.

Floggingmolly · 24/07/2015 11:08

It can be excused by her anxiety, Bubbles. Apparently. Just what the vulnerable people need...

waitaminutenow · 24/07/2015 11:13

Big red flags!! Run, run and don't look back...don't drag your kids in to this or bring anymore into the equation!!

muminthecity · 24/07/2015 11:41

Oh come on OP, just because he's different to your ex doesn't mean he isn't abusive. Abusers come in many different shapes and sizes, they don't all act in exactly the same way, but the end result is almost always the same. If you carry on with this you will be back on here in a few months, maybe even a couple of years' time asking for advice on how to escape. By that time your children will have already been damaged by witnessing this toxic relationship. Get out now, for their sakes.

FWIW I have been seeing someone for 4 months now. He is lovely, no red flags whatsoever but I still haven't even begun to think about introducing him to my DC, now would he expect me to. It's just far too soon, it will be at least another few months before I'd introduce them and even then I wouldn't have him here every night or move him in, it just isn't fair on the DC.

muminthecity · 24/07/2015 11:42

*nor would he expect me to

MissBattleaxe · 24/07/2015 12:06

Agree Bubbles.

OP- if you passed a DBS with at least three convictions for harassment, assault and criminal damage, why are you so satisfied with his being OK?

PS I find it hard to believe you are allowed to work with vulnerable people after those convictions if I'm honest.

Lweji · 24/07/2015 12:08

Yes, we both had enhanced DRB's as we work for a charity helping vulnerable people

WTAF?

MNHQ, could you report them to the charity?

Lweji · 24/07/2015 12:09

Different to all the others (abusive and not) in the way he tests me

Because testing you is not a red flag at all.

clam · 24/07/2015 12:13

I'm assuming that was meant to be treating, not "testing."

Lweji · 24/07/2015 12:14

That does sound better... :)