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New romance with boyfriend gone very wrong;-(( help please

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KatieMaddocks · 23/07/2015 16:59

Hi all,
Something I would like to share and get your help on, it was hard to write this out so please do not be unkind.
I met a guy online and our courtship and romance started off quite fast, he did all the planning, pursuing, courting and reaching out to me as well as calling, texting and making sure we have plans. we've been seeing each other for almost 3 months now, twice a week (Wednesday evening for a date in town) and on Saturday when we spend the whole day together and I stay over at his house.

We enjoy each other's company but have delved into conversations about children, family, marriage as I am 35 and had been married (no kids) before, he is 44, never married/no kids. I have voiced a desire to have a family soon with the right person, he said he wants the same. He has said he does not believe in marriage - parents divorced when he was 10 - and that he can have kids and 'then see if marriage can be on the cards'.

I am not entirely happy with it as it means he has 100% commitment from me and no recognition on paper/formally. He does say he loves me, he said it first and pursued me, but now calls less and rarely texts, also we met on Wednesday after a great weekend and he said that he was going on a finance course the next day and wanted us to finish early. I asked him if he wanted to meet at all, as he seemed distracted, a little aloof/cold and did not compliment me on my dress, looks - which he rarely does anyway, less to nothing now - and was not in a hugging/affectionate mood. I told him in a bar that I would love to see his affection and emotions and that I really like if we're tender with each other. He told me he has come out to meet only because I 'would give him grief if we didn't meet on Wednesday' and that I 'always pick an argument'.
I feel I cannot discuss the affection issue with him, he closes off and sees it as me nagging him. It felt like I was an old wife he got bored of and we're only dating 3 months!

Needless to say, I was upset, he saw me off home, did not get out of the car to say goodbye and walk me to my house. I invited him in, he declined. He wanted a kiss, I briefly kissed him and jumped out of his fancy car. He was angry I did not properly kiss him and I ended up saying why don't you come up for 5 mins? Big mistake. We ended up having sex which was mediocre (unlike before), he left and said 'cheers' on his way out....!!! Then returned realising it's wrong and just to almost tick the box said 'love ya'.

I feel like he has intimacy issues and does see me as wife/GF material but is not in love with me. He cannot say it to me face to face, plus if I bring up affection, hugs and kisses or calling during the week he gets angry and defensive. I do not know what to do and feel awful as it feels like he lost interest after hunting a beautiful girl down (he told me he was very proud a beautiful girl like me went out with him).

I feel broken hearted, upset and not loved/respected because of his recent treatment and how he talks to me on a daily basis (no compliments, cute words, no feelings.)

I played by the rules, did not pursue him, did never call him, rarely returned calls. What happened and is there a future here? Am I blind and need to move on if he does not appreciate me?

Another fact is that I am a high earner compared to him 9 years younger and have a really good job/lifestyle which he does not have to the same extent. Being a macho and a red-blooded male male, it does bother him I think. Nothing I can do about it, but thought it's important to point out. I love him the way he is, and my only criticism is absence of emotions/affection/hugs and compliments, as I am a fairly good looking girl who is used to swim in men's attention and adoration.

He does also routinely swear at waiters, people in cars and sometimes me - he has called me a 'dick' when I unbuttoned his shirt's top button, 'an arsehole', and told me 'not to behave like a bitch'. I find this really shocking as my mum and dad never speak like this, but he says it is okay and he is not meaning anything nasty by it.

What is your advice on this for the future? It was hard writing this and I really would like your point of view. I love him but not sure how/if this can work which fills me with fear and sadness.

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MyDogAteMyBelt · 24/07/2015 12:31

"p&ssy"

This is MN "Katie". We can say fuck, cunt, pussy. No need for censoring. It looks a bit puerile.

MyDogAteMyBelt · 24/07/2015 12:32

Oh x post LOL
Katie if you don't like expletives this is NOT the right site for you, believe me.

KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:32

honeyroar thank you....it is hardest on Saturdays/Sundays to be honest. But I have stopped doing so many other things on weekends because we saw each other every week that I am happy to get back to it now...like reading, doing more running, cooking finally;-) and shopping in the sale;-)

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GrannyWW · 24/07/2015 12:34

Katie you are mot the thread police I'm afraid. I find your post that women hate beautiful women incrediblely offensive- sexist and hateful to women. And your minimising of it even worse.

KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:34

MyDogAteMyBelt NC stands for?;-)) Many sites will ban users for this...anyways. I like the responsivenss here, the true feelings and direct feedback (not too direct;-)))

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KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:36

GrannyWW - sorry if it offends you. some women do hate pretty girls, it is a fact. I am not here to start wars. It is a personal post about online dating. You of course do not need to participate or help me.

I like women as am one;-))) and always make steps to find more friends, be it work or street or a gym club etc.

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GrannyWW · 24/07/2015 12:37

Many site will call you hun and tell you he's probably ok really just a bit macho and oooohhh how exciting you could be pregnant - have you thought of any names yet.

KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:37

I wanted to ask, which sites do you find useful in the UK and also how do you meet your trustworthy/fabulous men? In real life - cafes/cinemas/etc or is it online?

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GrannyWW · 24/07/2015 12:38

Katie - you need help for having unprotected sex with a man you hardly know. End of . The fact you cannot see this makes me sad.

KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:39

Granny WW not if there are serious red flags....yes, he is very macho and at the beginning I did like it. But it turned out to be not wheat I expected....

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Stitchintime1 · 24/07/2015 12:39

He sounds horrible.

GrannyWW · 24/07/2015 12:40

Try getting your head straight before you pop off to another delightful dating sight - unless you like deja vu

KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:42

Granny WW many women would do it, and it's wrong. Thanks for your worries and concerns. I do not think he shags anything that moves, as he probably targets high flyers....I know not an excuse, whatever, it's done now. He is very concerned with his health too and cares about appearance, lifestyle etc...I am sad about it too but now cannot reverse anything.

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GrannyWW · 24/07/2015 12:42

Some women do hate pretty women its a fact ????? Let me guess you are or think you are pretty and have few female friends ?

GrannyWW · 24/07/2015 12:43

Oh well yes 'high flyers' have far less STD's than lower paid workers.

KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:47

GrannyWW, come on.....lets' not go into this. It's bad, wrong....do you want to pull me intro pieces and shout?? Of course, all of the people can carry illnesses...even the ones in monogamous relationships. High flyers have no time to date/have sex generally though;-))) so if they do find a partner, they cannot stop. That's the issue.

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Nydj · 24/07/2015 12:47

You want to be with someone who calls you a dick but you are telling someone on an anonymous forum where, incidentally, people are free to post what they like as long as it is within MN rules, to not not write to you unless it is without expletives? I think grannyWW is spot on in thinking that what you put up with is totally screwed up.

In my opinion, you should be a lot nicer and appreciative of people who are trying to help you including GrannyWW.

KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:48

He was VERY insistent, sexy, charming etc....not sure how as I am normally very strong-headed and quite stubborn...

Dumb situation.

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MyDogAteMyBelt · 24/07/2015 12:50

Oh well yes 'high flyers' have far less STD's than lower paid workers.

Grin
KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:51

Nydj I am. I think we've covered all there is to it, though.....not much that can be said.

I just don't want tough love as it is hard to handle with other pressures right now. Feel very sick of what's happened. ~Plus some people - this guy - have a knack of making you think you are the issue. not them. You are the crazy one who argues not them. He thinks he is charming, easy-going, gentleman-like guy......

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KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:53

I also find it hard to find true chemistry and it only happens to me on rare occasions...like once in 2 years or something...I go on dates and never feel anything. so yes it's a shame this chemistry guy did not match up on other parts...

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KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:55

MyDogAteMyBelt I work 14-15 hours a day sometimes and never have time to go out/find a partner. So yes, for me - not that I class myself as flying high - sex is not on the table even if I am with someone, at least not often.

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learntoloveagain · 24/07/2015 12:56

Are you saying you have ended the relationship op?

When are you doing a pregnancy test?

Your view of women and how they treat each other is very skewed.

ShebaShimmyShake · 24/07/2015 12:56

Katie, your exact words were "beautiful women are hated by women." That is absolutely a slight to women in general and a wrong one at that. If you don't recognise that as misogyny, I'm not surprised you don't realise this pissbag man who calls you a dick and rich pussy (yet you object to bad language elsewhere?) is as misogynistic as they come. Perhaps he has honed in on your hatred of women and uses it to his advantage? Don't tell us you stood up against him for that when you're still with him.

I am not a beautiful woman but I have also had problems at work, with street harassment and with other people, male and female. If that's all you have, be comforted that we plain Janes are in your company. Maybe we are less different than you think.

You need to leave this exploitative and hateful scrub immediately.

HPsauciness · 24/07/2015 13:02

Katie well done for moving on from this loser, please don't go back, he only likes the chase anyway and his attitude towards women is awful.

Can I make a couple of suggestions as you throw yourself into dating again. First, for god's sake use protection/condoms. You are doing exactly what my friend used to do, playing with fire, almost tempting fate. But being a single mum with an arsehole for a father would be a life of misery for you. If you want to go it alone and become a mother, do so unattached to an idiot and in a sensible calculating way, having considered it and got real life support. If you come from a similar culture to my friend, being an unmarried mum would be even harder.

Secondly, you don't have a good bullshit radar, it took many incidents only one of which I would have found unacceptable before you started to think this guy might not be all that. Buy 'He's just not that into you' (the book) as a starting point and absorb the message- every second you spend with someone who isn't that into you (or indeed isn't a nice person and says things about custody/shooting his wife) is time you are not available to meet a decent good person who wants the same things as you.

Also- because you don't have a good bullshit radar, tell your friends (or mother or whoever you talk to or ask on here) everything about your new man, other people are much more alert to this stuff, I was able to help my friend several times see that the person she was dating was clearly not into her/had red flags, she just seemed unable to spot them herself.

I'm not going to get into the debate about pretty women. What I will say is that women can be vulnerable to abuse or just plain disrespect for a number of reasons. If you are a beautiful woman, then you will need to filter out the men with Porches who disrespect women in their talk, as they treat women like objects- and if you are clever and work in the City or near it, you should use this intelligence to filter these lowlifes out.