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New romance with boyfriend gone very wrong;-(( help please

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KatieMaddocks · 23/07/2015 16:59

Hi all,
Something I would like to share and get your help on, it was hard to write this out so please do not be unkind.
I met a guy online and our courtship and romance started off quite fast, he did all the planning, pursuing, courting and reaching out to me as well as calling, texting and making sure we have plans. we've been seeing each other for almost 3 months now, twice a week (Wednesday evening for a date in town) and on Saturday when we spend the whole day together and I stay over at his house.

We enjoy each other's company but have delved into conversations about children, family, marriage as I am 35 and had been married (no kids) before, he is 44, never married/no kids. I have voiced a desire to have a family soon with the right person, he said he wants the same. He has said he does not believe in marriage - parents divorced when he was 10 - and that he can have kids and 'then see if marriage can be on the cards'.

I am not entirely happy with it as it means he has 100% commitment from me and no recognition on paper/formally. He does say he loves me, he said it first and pursued me, but now calls less and rarely texts, also we met on Wednesday after a great weekend and he said that he was going on a finance course the next day and wanted us to finish early. I asked him if he wanted to meet at all, as he seemed distracted, a little aloof/cold and did not compliment me on my dress, looks - which he rarely does anyway, less to nothing now - and was not in a hugging/affectionate mood. I told him in a bar that I would love to see his affection and emotions and that I really like if we're tender with each other. He told me he has come out to meet only because I 'would give him grief if we didn't meet on Wednesday' and that I 'always pick an argument'.
I feel I cannot discuss the affection issue with him, he closes off and sees it as me nagging him. It felt like I was an old wife he got bored of and we're only dating 3 months!

Needless to say, I was upset, he saw me off home, did not get out of the car to say goodbye and walk me to my house. I invited him in, he declined. He wanted a kiss, I briefly kissed him and jumped out of his fancy car. He was angry I did not properly kiss him and I ended up saying why don't you come up for 5 mins? Big mistake. We ended up having sex which was mediocre (unlike before), he left and said 'cheers' on his way out....!!! Then returned realising it's wrong and just to almost tick the box said 'love ya'.

I feel like he has intimacy issues and does see me as wife/GF material but is not in love with me. He cannot say it to me face to face, plus if I bring up affection, hugs and kisses or calling during the week he gets angry and defensive. I do not know what to do and feel awful as it feels like he lost interest after hunting a beautiful girl down (he told me he was very proud a beautiful girl like me went out with him).

I feel broken hearted, upset and not loved/respected because of his recent treatment and how he talks to me on a daily basis (no compliments, cute words, no feelings.)

I played by the rules, did not pursue him, did never call him, rarely returned calls. What happened and is there a future here? Am I blind and need to move on if he does not appreciate me?

Another fact is that I am a high earner compared to him 9 years younger and have a really good job/lifestyle which he does not have to the same extent. Being a macho and a red-blooded male male, it does bother him I think. Nothing I can do about it, but thought it's important to point out. I love him the way he is, and my only criticism is absence of emotions/affection/hugs and compliments, as I am a fairly good looking girl who is used to swim in men's attention and adoration.

He does also routinely swear at waiters, people in cars and sometimes me - he has called me a 'dick' when I unbuttoned his shirt's top button, 'an arsehole', and told me 'not to behave like a bitch'. I find this really shocking as my mum and dad never speak like this, but he says it is okay and he is not meaning anything nasty by it.

What is your advice on this for the future? It was hard writing this and I really would like your point of view. I love him but not sure how/if this can work which fills me with fear and sadness.

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KatieMaddocks · 23/07/2015 19:01

I agree with you. Beautiful women are hated by women and attract complete arseholes!!!!!

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HPsauciness · 23/07/2015 19:11

I disagree with you Katie, as a female, I have lots of very beautiful friends and have been a great friend to them over the years. But, they in the main have poor taste in men and tend to be more insecure than their outer facade shows, they also tend to attract men attracted to trophies who don't like women as real people very much. Hence this guy is going to the races, has a flash car, is helping his friend find a trophy wife, has you, but doesn't sound like he likes you all that much and is angry/defensive when challenged.

What are you going to do about it?

Morley19 · 23/07/2015 19:12

Run for the hills now!

3 months in and it's like this?! Seriously, just save yourself a lot of heartache and get out now x

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 23/07/2015 19:13

Beautiful women are not hated by women and plain women are just as good at attracting arseholes as the beautiful ones.

pinkyredrose · 23/07/2015 19:16

It's nothing to do with outward beauty. He doesn't respect you because you don't respect yourself. He's met a good looking foreign young woman with a good job and a cosy pad who's allowing him to fuck her without a condom. He knows how to keep you dangling on a thread by saying the right things but the real him is becoming more and more apparent. This relationship is making you unhappy, it will make you more unhappy if you stay and only hear what you want to hear.

Twinklestein · 23/07/2015 19:20

All women attract arseholes, but the streetwise ones avoid them.

ShebaShimmyShake · 23/07/2015 19:20

Katie, if you honestly believe the first part of that sentence, I'm starting to understand why you've fallen for such an arsewipe of a man and can't bring yourself to leave.

Some people are jealous people by nature and will envy anything from beauty to wealth to power. But it is simply not true that women in general hate other women for being beautiful. It's just a lie perpetuated by society to keep women obsessed with their looks. Some women will be influenced by that societal pressure, but when I look around I see very beautiful women all over the place in great friendships with other women. The sorts of women who will tell them when they're in dead end relationships with pig dog men and to run for the hills.

If you sincerely believe womankind in general hates you for being good looking, well, that's the kind of delusion that keeps you in a so-called relationship with this hateful, misogynistic dog of a man. If anyone hates women, I'd say it's you, since you've heard what he says about us and you haven't told him where to stick it.

regretsihaveafew · 23/07/2015 19:21

I know some beautiful women, and I do not hate them! I am older now but have never been amazingly attractive...and have had more chances and offers than people would think/believe!

I think certain men go for looks and lust and not much else [not for having a good personality, a lovely character and/or being great company and fun]...I'm afraid he sees you as a trophy, a fact which many of us have picked up.

learntoloveagain · 23/07/2015 20:28

Rubbish Katie that beautiful women are hated by other women. I'm not sure if your cultural background has influenced your views on that. Could also explain why you are putting up with this awful man?

dangerrabbit · 23/07/2015 20:34

Why do you want to be with him exactly?!

flatbellyfella · 23/07/2015 20:48

Walk away from this pig of a man, he will not make you happy.From what you have already experienced, there should be a big red light flashing above his head...find a genuine partner, not a user.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 23/07/2015 20:51

Honey, it's not a beautiful woman who is fucking you without a condom, calling you a dick, and would consider shooting you in the event you didn't give him full custody of his kids.

ShebaShimmyShake · 23/07/2015 21:11

Lonny hits it out of the park.

Topseyt · 23/07/2015 21:46

I commented on your other thread too, but having read more on here, this man is sounding like more of a shit by the minute.

Kick him out. Don't respond to any more of his texts. He is playing mind games with you. Dump him by text. Then delete and block his number on your phone. If he comes knocking at the door then don't answer it to him. If he won't leave then call the police.

trackrBird · 23/07/2015 22:40

He talked about pension funds because he wants your money.
The 'joke' about using weaponry was to see if you'd take it, and stay with him.

Please get yourself away. This man is openly exploitative and potentially dangerous. Think about some counselling too; maybe a helping hand with understanding what healthy relationships look like would help in future.

Take care Brew

honeyroar · 23/07/2015 22:42

I remember coming out of a long term relationship when I was 35 and being in a panic that I'd never have children if I didn't meet someone soon. I too did internet dating. I too truly put up with some selfish pigs that didn't treat me well enough, purely because my biological clock was ticking loud enough to cover the bull they were spouting. It's not a good place to be. I had to eventually step back and give myself a break. I bought my horse and didn't date. I got myself happy. Then I met a good guy who is now my husband. He met me half way, cared as much about pleasing me as much as I cared about pleasing him.

This guy is not a good boyfriend, he won't be a good partner or husband and he won't be a good father. Even though you think you just want a baby I hope you aren't pregnant and you can run like the wind away from him and not have to deal with him anymore. For goodness sake see sense and don't reply to his texts. Have some self respect.

Squeegle · 23/07/2015 22:44

Get rid.

KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:05

ShebaShimmyShake I could not respond yesterday and have read all comments now. I am not saying anything derogatory about 'womankind', just that pretty girls sometimes - just sometimes!! - have it hard at work/otherwise with other (some women). Let's not create an issue out of nothing. It is not a feminist topic and I certainly am not generalising. and I have told him 'where to stick it' when he said that...only he would not listen/hear anyway.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett A little harsh, no?? Using f words?? How are you better than him if you talk like that? also, your post does not make sense....I was merely saying pretty girls attract good/bad/the ugly and often cannot tell them apart. I am sure all women do attract all types so yes all is relative and I am not here to start theological discussions/war. It was MY opinion, MY experience only. I hope you never make/have made any of my mistakes...in which case I am very happy for you.

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KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:14

daisyJ123
Twinkelstein

thank you for your kind words. I am re-assessing it all in my head and slept better last night. I do not like some nasty comments on the site from people who are not here to help but to pull you apart. I already feel terrible, not sure why someone would do that.

The story was - no messages from me yesterday, he left a VM, text in the evening, two texts today (he is away on business today).

I really do not think he was truthful about deleting his profile and last Sat I saw ion his mobile that he received winks/smiles/emails from girls and probably replied to them... I have been so classically conned. cannot believe I fell for it at my age. anyway, he clearly was very charming and has a lot of magnetism and appeal if he wants to. I have lost so much weight - not on purpose - as I was so happy to see him and had no appetite lately. I have been able to fit into 99% of my dresses because of that and looked fab for him. and he never even noticed or said anything to me.

The worst part is that he will not regret if I am gone and did not really see someone accepted him and wanted to be with him just because, with no motives. Makes me sad as the world really can be an awful place sometimes...

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GrannyWW · 24/07/2015 12:26

It is a femenist issue and the fact you cannot see that and are making excuses for your own misogynist shit and his towards you, explains why you allowed this shit into your life and fuck you without a condom - and lets be honest fuck you is what he has been doing. If you have a brain go and read so.e good up to date femenist litrature and blogs before you start another relationship.

MyDogAteMyBelt · 24/07/2015 12:26

I do not like some nasty comments on the site from people who are not here to help but to pull you apart

I didn't see any nasty comments, but if you think posters are being nasty and pulling you apart, report them.....

Are you new to MN or have you NC?

KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:27

Zucker He drives a Porsche 911. I did not like the fact he has it when I found out after 2 dates as my view is - again, my personal opinion - not very nice guys / players drive such cars as Porsche, Maserati, Ferrari etc...

I know not everyone is at fault but - as Sherlock Holmes said - it's intuition...which is basically an abundance of detailed observations which help the detective form an opinion on something.

In combination with other words/traits Porsche car is not a good thing. He probably uses it as a 'p&ssy magnet', although it never attracted me personally and I do not care what car my partner/BF has. Within reason.

He has a house of his own and I think that's about it. so, really we're not dissimilar in terms of income only he is a native in this country and older. He earns less probably, as he keeps referring to me as an 'executive lady' he dates. we talked about tax returns, he doesn't complete one so I gather he earns less than 100k a year with bonus/base/etc. Again, it does not matter to me what a guy earns, I liked him as a person in the first month, then the awful mistaken text, then I went home and then he emerged as a true self....

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honeyroar · 24/07/2015 12:28

They're not all like him. There are good ones out there. You just have to expect more and not accept bad treatment.

Well done on letting him drop and not replying.

KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:29

MyDogAteMyBelt Sorry, I do not understand abbreviations...;-) I am newm, yes, my first time posting here. NC?

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KatieMaddocks · 24/07/2015 12:30

GrannyWW I am sorry, I find your words offensive. Please do not write to me if you do not/cannot talk without expletives.

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