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Finally told my physically/emotionally abusive H I am divorcing him...

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Namechanger2015 · 17/05/2015 21:01

I have been posting about my H since Jan. He assaulted me in Dec in front of my DC. I left in late Jan with my DC and we moved in with my parents 1.5h away, close to my family.

Since then he has offered to sell the family home so we can live together close to my parents, and enrol in an abusers course, and has generally seen the error of his ways. Except of course, he hasn't.

He has decided that he likes the house too much to sell it, and is currently enjoying living alone in the 4-bed detached house that I paid towards with my salary, which he would not allow me access to.

He has decided that the abusers course is 'a load of bollocks' and so refuses to do it. I pinned all of my hopes on this course fixing him, and he won't even try. He knows the alternative is divorce and living away from me and his 3 beautiful DC but it seems that is not enough for him. He will not do the course and he will not sell the family house to buy another.

My immediate family know what he has been like over the years and don't ever want to see him again. Some of my extended family know and are 100% behind me as well.

Last week I told him the solicitor will be in touch to start proceedings and end our marriage. It went like this:

(bland conversation about him wanting to attend a family event with me Hmm)
Me: I have spoken to solicitor and they will be in touch
Him: To do what?
Me: To end the marriage
Him: There is no end with children involved
Me: Yes. You can see the children anytime you want to.
Him: And you will hide away? We will always see each other. For the rest of our lives. There is no end.

(2 hours later)
Him: Can you let me know the kids half term dates, I'd like to have them stay for a few days if that's ok.
Me: Yes, thats fine.
etc.

So that was it. I told him I want a divorce, and he mustered up 4 sentences in a text. Nothing else. No promising to do the course, even if he did think it was crap, and no promising to sell the house to buy a place together, simply because he loves that house too much to give up.

So my marriage is over, once the exceedingly slow SHL finally serves the papers. And he didn't even fight, get angry, nothing. Just took it in his stride.

It's further proof that he never loved me, but I can't help feeling angry, sad, robbed. I could have had a life with someone else. As it stands, I have 3 young DC and no partner, and just me.

Trying not to feel to sad or worthless. I have had an amazing weekend with family at a wedding, the DC and I loved it, and my extended family are simply amazing. I could have lived in the wedding hotel with them all for ever, we have so much love between us all.

But I don't have a spouse. After 9 years of marriage. I did it all alone, nobody to chitter about what the food was like, or that I liked the brides dress, or whether the DC enjoyed it. I know the whole experience would have been different with him there, and probably not in a good way. But it was lonely, and a bit of a wake-up call.

I'm not even worth selling a house or attending a crappy course for. He would rather let me go than do that for me, after 9 years and 3 children.

I am actually shocked, surprised and hurt at how little I meant to him by the end of our marriage.

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BeyonceRiRiMadonnna · 22/06/2015 20:53

Hi Name, this guy is all talk zero action. If I was trying to get my wife and kids back i wouldn't have turned the family home into a man cave! He says one thing then does the exact opposite. He's consistent with his actions. Driving over to see them for fathers day was way too much effort, SMDH!

Lweji · 22/06/2015 20:58

They are far, far better off without a dad around than a dad like him.

Having a good dad is a good thing, but having a bad/abusive dad is worse than not having one.
At least they will have a calm, stable and safe home. Provided by you.

Lweji · 22/06/2015 20:59

Also agreeing with wannabe

Namechanger2015 · 22/06/2015 21:55

I will have a look at council accommodation if I can get something. The problem with renting is that I simply cannot afford it.

The rent plus bills and food, is more than I earn. I would also need to furnish the house/flat as they seem to all come unfurnished. I just don't have that money at the moment. I think my best option is to stay out and keep saving, and push the divorce to happen.

My counsellor also advised that I stay push and don't run from one problem (H) to another (cramped accomodation) straight into another (renting beyond my means), without taking some time to breathe in between.

I think it's hit me hard today as my parents have been away for a month and I got used to having the house back to myself, and running a house as I am used to. I've suddenly gone back to being a daughter in my parents house, and that was a bit of a shock again.

I have realised I have some issues with my mum being a bit EA as well, but I am reluctant to throw this into the mix as I don't know if I am just transferring my anger from H to my lovely parents who are supporting me physically and financially at the moment.

I am starting to think about renting as more of a possibility now, I will see what the council say. I just seem to have hit a bit of a brick wall with my feelings and my energy to do this.

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Namechanger2015 · 22/06/2015 21:57

Hi Name, this guy is all talk zero action. If I was trying to get my wife and kids back i wouldn't have turned the family home into a man cave!

Yes. This sucks, I don't know why I have any feelings for him - I think they are still a fantasy of the man I wanted so much for him to be. And maybe because he is now less interested, it's making me want to pursue him more iyswim. I am keeping my distance and will not be going back, I will treat this as a phase.

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Namechanger2015 · 22/06/2015 21:59

Btw did you read coco's thread just started this evening?

I hadn't seen this thread - it's very inspiring!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2408734-Choco-rises

Although I think I believe this is the 'happy ever after' scenario that happens to the lucky ones, right now I can't see anything good ahead of me. It's nice to know that it does.

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Lweji · 22/06/2015 22:03

Is it possible for you to apply to have him removed from the family home so that you and the children can live there?
Have you checked about it with a solicitor?
(sorry if it has been mentioned elsewhere)

Namechanger2015 · 22/06/2015 22:13

Lweji we probably could do that, but the house is in a different city - we have moved 1.5h away to London closer to my family. The DDs are settled at their new school.

We could move back to marital house in old city but this would mean uprooting DDs school again, and moving away from family, which I don't want to happen.

Family is also of the opinion that if we move back there we will once again become isolated and he would continue to manipulate.

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Namechanger2015 · 22/06/2015 22:15

He offered to move out after I left him, but I don't trust that.

After he hit me he left for a week to give me space. But actually returned after 2 days saying he had had enough of being away. So it would have to be court-imposed.

tbh I just want the full value of the house so I can buy something close to family and have a life again. It was miserable living in gorgeous house in lovely city but with little access to supportive friends and family.

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Namechanger2015 · 22/06/2015 22:16

SHL has just emailed and is going to chase H tomorrow to acknowledge the divorce proceedings within 7 days, or we take this to court. I hate it. Every time I push the divorce I question whether I am right or making a horrible mistake in ending my marriage. I

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Lweji · 22/06/2015 22:19

Oh, yes, sorry I forgot about the move.

Choco went through a lot (can't believe I've been around that long...) and down the line most people are better than in any abusive relationship.

You are going through the worst period. Don't doubt yourself. Imagine that this is climbing a wall, or going through a mountain range, or a tunnel. When you get to the other side it suddenly gets better.

Go to court if necessary. I did and it took a lot of hassle out of my hands, and exH actually ended up agreeing to a divorce in the first hearing. It means that you are serious and you are not prepared to depend on him to move on with your life.

Namechanger2015 · 22/06/2015 22:41

Go to court if necessary. I did and it took a lot of hassle out of my hands, and exH actually ended up agreeing to a divorce in the first hearing. It means that you are serious and you are not prepared to depend on him to move on with your life.

Yes my gut instinct is to do this all via the courts/SHL. I can only be nice/reasonable to his face and find it very difficult to fight my corner. I am happy with being nice in person so we can be good about the children.

I still think he is trying to pull the wool over my eyes re finances so wouldn't trust him to do the honourable thing there.

Choco went through a lot (can't believe I've been around that long...) and down the line most people are better than in any abusive relationship.

When I have my good days life seems so easy and relaxed without him. Other days like today it feels like a pipe-dream and totally undoable on my own. Like I created a silly fantasy escape of my own doing and now I can't manage the reality of it at all.

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Namechanger2015 · 22/06/2015 22:48

You are going through the worst period. Don't doubt yourself.

Trying hard. Thank you.

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Vivacia · 23/06/2015 05:08

Hope you've woken up in a good place name

Namechanger2015 · 23/06/2015 10:30

Morning, not much better but a busy day which is good.

It's DDs birthday today, H called and wished her a happy birthday. I can sense the distance between them on the phone, but I think that is just down to the challenges of having conversations with 5yo on the phone.

He has posted her a birthday card - this is written from daddy, mummy, sisters and his parents. So casually slotting me in there and pretending our family is still in tact.

He is planning on having them this weekend, but doesn't know if his car will be fixed. So in other words, no idea if he is having them I suppose.

He would like to come to DDs birthday dinner this evening, with all of my family present, even though he is not invited. And he of course announces this via text today, instead of last week when he heard of the dinner plans, so I have to work around it? I don't think so.

On the plus side he would like to have the DDs for a few weeks over the summer hols which is unheard of.

No mention of solicitors email re divorce papers (again) that he would have received last night.

I still feel like I am being manipulated by him.

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Lweji · 23/06/2015 10:39

Right, how can he be there for dinner but he doesn't know if his car will be ready for the weekend?

And I'd write to him telling him that he is not to write cards or whatever in your name.

Namechanger2015 · 23/06/2015 10:43

He has two cars. The family car which is now 10+ years old, and the £45K sports car which only seats two people.

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Lweji · 23/06/2015 10:48

Of course...

I'd give a deadline to let you know if he is taking the children (something like Thursday) or you'll make plans. There is public transport, presumably. Children often love it too, and it's easier to have children for a couple of hours on a train than 1.5 in a car.

And if he doesn't take them, he forgoes his weekend.

Namechanger2015 · 23/06/2015 11:03

Lweji, great minds. That is exactly what I am doing. I'll give him till Thursday to let me know and we have plans the following 2 weekends as well so he will just have to sort something out.

It's exactly this attitude that has driven me insane over the years. Nothing concrete and no sharing or discussing of plans.

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Vivacia · 23/06/2015 11:29

He has posted her a birthday card - this is written from daddy, mummy, sisters and his parents.

Yeah, that's just bloody weird Hmm he is a complete controlling bully. I can see how you might be struggling to get from under his thrall.

He would like to come to DDs birthday dinner this evening, with all of my family present, even though he is not invited. And he of course announces this via text today, instead of last week when he heard of the dinner plans, so I have to work around it? I don't think so.

WTAF? How did you respond to this?

Namechanger2015 · 23/06/2015 12:27

He is a complete controlling bully. I can see how you might be struggling to get from under his thrall.

Vivacia, he just does not listen to me, he is ploughing ahead with things like we are still together. It makes me realise why I was so under his control. He actively choosing not to listen to me, and goes ahead regardless. He is making his point with the card, and not actually thinking realistically at all.

He would like to come to DDs birthday dinner this evening, with all of my family present, even though he is not invited. And he of course announces this via text today, instead of last week when he heard of the dinner plans, so I have to work around it? I don't think so.

I told him not to come to birthday. He says I am being unfair on DD and on him.

I have told him it will be very awkward as my family do not want to see him, and if he had told me earlier than the day of the event I would have organised that DDs can see him today.

I have told him he can come down from after school 3pm-5pm and then drop them back to me, so I can take them to the party. I am so annoyed at him.

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Vivacia · 23/06/2015 12:45

You can't reason with him. You can't convince, explain or justify, so I wouldn't bother trying. Go for the broken record technique, "No, sorry, that doesn't work for me".

I'd also be wary of putting him in a position of power, e.g. being able to make your children late for the party.

Jux · 23/06/2015 13:02

There you are changing plans to accomodate him again. A firm no is all that is required. He'll enjoy making everyone feel awkward while playing Disney Dad at the meal, and while he's in the vicinity he won't leave easily. He will guilt trip someone into telling him all the details - venue, time etc - even if you don't.

Warn a brother or someone who has no interest in being nice to him to be there and do the hand-overs for you or he'll be at that meal, all jolly and lovely and the next thing you know he'll be saying "but it was no problem at dd's birthday......" and bang! there you are back at the beginning.

Get money from him, CMS if you haven't yet.

Namechanger2015 · 23/06/2015 13:53

Agh. I am finding this just so ridiculous. I need to let DDs see him if they would like to, and I am sure that they would. If he had not made the effort to come down I would be complaining about that, but as it is, he does want to see them and my instinct is that I cannot get in the way of this.

I am slotting him into our plans, and not letting him change them. He can have them 3-5, when they would have been at home, and it actually works out quite nicely as it means I can use that time to organise party bags etc.

But of course, he has now just text me. 'Can't make it for 3. Have to go to [other work site]'

wtf does that mean? Coming later? Not coming at all? And like an idiot I will have to ask him what his plans actually are again.

My family can't tolerate him at all, they actively dislike him and will not be able to be attend and be nice to him. It would be the first time they have seen him since he hit me. It was supposed to be a lovely day for DD.

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Jux · 23/06/2015 14:09

No, you don't have to ask him his plans. You just have to text "next weekend then" and that's it. Please don't ask him anything. It will tell him that he can still manipulate you, you will still bend over backwards whatever he does, you are still his little slave.