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DH has left again

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AndHarry · 17/05/2015 08:34

Third time in as many years. He sat me down last night and said he was unhappy and thought we should separate. I asked him what he was unhappy about and what I needed to change. It was difficult to pin him down to anything but then it came out: he wants me to do things for him like sew buttons back onto his shirts and fix his trousers when there's a hole in the pocket or the hem has dropped. That's it. He wants to put me through all this again because of a few buttons. It's so incredibly pathetic I would laugh if I wasn't crying.

What it actually boils down to is that he wants to feel respected as the manly head of the household, even if he hasn't put it like that. As I told him last night, it's difficult to respect him when I feel like his mother: organising everything, picking up after him, reminding him of essential things that need doing for the kids, coming into the kitchen many days to find it full of dirty crockery from the day(s) before (I cook, he washes up), struggle to tidy up because the bins are overflowing (his job) and have to cajole him into coming out with the kids instead of sticking on a DVD and lying on the sofa all weekend. I have tried and tried in as many ways as I could think of to make things easy for him and do things for him but get ground down by the sheer laziness of his response. The more I do, the less he bothers.

I said I would do everything around the house if that would stop the arguments and resentment, just to be stonewalled with 'it won't work'. I asked him to try doing the household chores he had agreed to do, consistently, and got 'it won't work'.

I pointed out that I had supported him in going to the gym every morning before work and going out with his friends several nights a week so that he gets his own time. Apparently 'it's not that'.

I said how hurt I was that he had complained about what I cooked so I only made the things he said he wanted but he still orders pizza for himself. How hurt I am that when I did as he asked and made his lunches he didn't eat them, preferring to get fast food instead. 'Shrug'.

The fact is that he has a pretty cushy life but, as he repeatedly points out, he is the 'breadwinner' while I only work because I want to, so anything wrong around the house is immediately my fault for not being wifely enough.

I ended up screaming into my pillow with sheer frustration. He didn't come to bed and this morning he wasn't in the house and his car has gone.

Another fall to the tax office to sort out tax credits tomorrow. Another time trying to keep myself together for the kids, dealing with their anxieties over their dad being gone, pretending that he's in meetings or at the gym every evening. Dealing with my parents' disappointment again.

I'm sorry this is an essay. I don't want anything, just needed to get it out.

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ShebaShimmyShake · 04/07/2015 08:21

He will not change unless he wants to.

AndHarry · 04/07/2015 17:35

So, today he's swanning around in a Ferrari with a beautiful blonde woman and I'm getting a letter from the water company saying we owe them nearly £500. He's already living in some sort of fantasy world by the looks of it Confused

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Jen1610 · 04/07/2015 18:51

The blonde woman is probably the car sales woman he's pretending he may possibly by the car to.

Water bill, split it. He was there too!

tribpot · 04/07/2015 19:00

Slowly turn into his dad, in a financial mess

I'm getting a letter from the water company saying we owe them nearly £500.

Sounds like he already is his dad. The reason the bill's so high is because he hasn't been paying it, I assume?

AndHarry · 04/07/2015 19:22

Not in an evening dress with her hair done it wasn't. Thinking about it, that photo was probably from last night because today he has the DC and there are more photos of him taking them to the beach in it. With the DC sitting in booster seats Angry

Yes, he hasn't been paying the water bill. This was a final notice before they call in the debt collectors. Of course, this is the first I know of it. Stupid, irresponsible man.

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tipsytrifle · 04/07/2015 20:14

Oh AndHarry! Just that .. an exclamation of wonder and delight at the way you have seized your life, how your own energy has catapulted you into freedom. I shouldn't have really, but your rant was a GLORIOUS read!

He's pathetic and puny, lying and apparently living it up in someone else's Ferrari. Ha! Poor DC must have been shoehorned into it. Not exactly a "family" car is it?

Just LIVE dear soul! Get on with it all and LIVE Flowers

Jux · 04/07/2015 20:32

Take screen shots; who knows, you may need to show his profligacy at some point.

tribpot · 04/07/2015 21:05

he hasn't been paying the water bill. This was a final notice before they call in the debt collectors. Of course, this is the first I know of it.

Could there be other bills like this? It's fairly obvious one of the reasons he skipped off when he did was to distract from the mountain of debt that is about to crash down on him. Have you checked the status of other bills - Council Tax first and foremost, then other utilities, insurances, are any debts being unserviced so charges are mounting up there too?

Lweji · 04/07/2015 21:15

Have you at any point contacted the companies to tell them you are not responsible for the bills anymore?
If not, do it now.

Maybe he is working as a male escort now to cover his bills. Grin

BTW, if the children are not in proper car seats, will you allow him to take them again?

Lweji · 04/07/2015 21:43

Ignore about bills, mixing up threads now. Grin

Are they in his name or the both of you?

You are living there now, so I'd take responsibility because otherwise he either won't care or will not pay them to punish you.

Jux · 04/07/2015 21:51

He is a dishonest man. I am so sorry you have this mess dumped on you. IME most utility companies are pretty nice if you talk to them. Council tax is another matter though Sad

AndHarry · 04/07/2015 22:15

Everything else is up-to-date, in my name and paid directly out of my account. I couldn't find any water bills at all so had to call the provider for details and they've set up a new account in my name only. Now this. The bill is in his name but obviously it's not going to be top of his priority list. Clearly the reason I couldn't find any bills is because he's been deliberately hiding them from me. As so boringly predictable, he feigned shock when I presented him with it and protested that there must have been some mistake. Yawn, heard it all before. Lying, stupid idiot.

WRT the car seats, I don't know if I can stop him taking them. That is going to be a hideous conversation. Imagine a particularly grumpy teenager being told that they are in the wrong and resenting it.

Whoever the woman is, he took her flowers. However much I am glad to be getting rid of him, it hurts. I can manage a semi-grimace-type smile at the thought of him acting as an escort to pay off the water bill, but that's about it.

:o tipsytrifle. I'm doing my best!

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Lweji · 05/07/2015 08:37

If you have photos of them in inappropriate car seats, just stop contact, subject to him bringing proper seats.
And report it to the police.

AndHarry · 05/07/2015 14:29

I have the photos saved. He has appropriate car seats; I bought them! I suppose they didn't fit in the back of the Ferrari Hmm

Today I've been thinking that, as awful as this situation is, it could be an awful lot worse. Last night a friend confided in me that her DH has had a breakdown and wants a divorce. She is absolutely devastated; she is very much in love with him and cannot imagine being without him. Another friend is in dire financial straits and having to sell the family home as well as going through a very acrimonious divorce. Another is divorced and having to fight custody battles through the courts as well as being in the receiving end of a malicious hate campaign orchestrated by his ex-W and her family. Another lovely friend is living in an appallingly abusive marriage and feels that she can't leave because her H is putting emotional pressure on their children, telling them that it was their fault when she tried to leave before. In comparison, temporary financial difficulties and a muppet of a STBeXH seem fairly trivial.

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Lweji · 05/07/2015 15:06

Yes, by comparison is not so bad, but you still don't have to put up with it, nor the children should be in danger.

You taking a stand should also help your friends by example.

And by comparison, there are also many couples who manage to be happy with each other.

mix56 · 06/07/2015 06:30

The children do not go in a sports car, which by its very nature, goes like a rocket without car seats. It is against the law, unspeakably irresponsible. Did he buy this car in spite of being in debt? Or is he deliberately trying to show off & hurt you?

CruCru · 06/07/2015 17:42

He'll have hired it. Those things are at least £100k and REALLY difficult to buy.

AndHarry · 06/07/2015 17:46

Yes, absolutely he will have hired it. I doubt to annoy me in particular, just to show off I suppose. I will be making sure that he uses appropriate car seats for the DC in future though.

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KetchupIsNearlyAVegetable · 06/07/2015 23:26

If you want to annoy him right back, ignore the car, pretend you never saw it.

AndHarry · 06/07/2015 23:50

I 'liked' his pictures if that counts :o

What a depressing evening. Inspired by the 'why are there no decent single men aged 45+' thread I've started imagining what my life will be like if I'm single for the next 60-odd years. As lonely and crappy as that sounds, I still prefer that future to one married to H.

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Lweji · 07/07/2015 06:47

Four years down the line, yes, I'd like to have a good companion, but it's not grim or depressing. Certainly beats having exH around.

Once the dust settles you will see that you can start enjoying life better.

This is definitely the worst period while battling him all the way. But, ime, it pays off. :)

AndHarry · 07/07/2015 19:41

Good, I hope so. In a way I think this will be good for me on a purely individual level. If I'm going to spend a lot of time in my own company, it had better be good company!

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Jux · 08/07/2015 17:30

Have you a hobby? Or something you've always wanted to know a bit more about?

I found that studying fills up time like nothing else, broadens your understanding and gives opportunities to meet new people. I have made long-term friends just doing a short basic maths course! I've also learnt Latin a bit, some music, lots of basic science (chemistry, physics, biology, earth science). Lots through the OU before Tony B.Liar made them unaffordable, but also through local evening classes - one night a week or fortnight, so getting a sitter is a bit easier. These days there are so many online courses too, you could do anything from Anglo-Saxon to Zoology!

AndHarry · 08/07/2015 20:32

I don't really have a hobby as such. I used to do lots before having the DC but then with PND didn't really feel like doing anything and never seemed to have the time or the money anyway. I've been more proactive this year about signing up for the races I like doing, so that's coming along, and I'm waiting for my first year result back from the OU. That should be next Friday so my fingers are firmly crossed! I was on course for a Pass 1 but had to write my external assessment piece in the week after H left so my head was elsewhere. I read it through last night and it wasn't dreadful but a bit disjointed. I'll be disappointed if I don't get the required mark for a distinction but as long as I pass it doesn't really matter.

I'm taking two 60-credit modules from October so will have plenty to fill my time then! I bought the textbooks for one of the modules with the plan of getting to grips with the content over the summer, which I've started but haven't got very far into, so I'd better get cracking.

On a different note entirely, DD woke up last night crying for her daddy. Poor little thing, she didn't ask for any of this :(

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CruCru · 10/07/2015 08:56

No she didn't. However, neither did you.