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Marriage problems, have developed strong feelings for a younger woman

121 replies

dmg117 · 06/05/2015 15:59

I’m 37, married, one son. My wife and I have been married for 12 years. For the past few years I’ve felt as though I’m just getting nagged at all the time. It’s as if everything I do isn’t acceptable to my wife We just seem to go through the motions. I try not to argue back, I can’t stand drama and fighting. I stop most days at a coffee shop near my work. I noticed a girl there sometimes as well, I was standing waiting on my coffee and she was also, we got talking briefly, and as the days went by we just said hi and got talking more, it was always on the off-chance we’d bump into each other but it was very nice, about 2 weeks ago we sat for almost 2 hours and we met up for a drink at a cocktail bar a little over a week ago and we talked about everything, her life, my life. The parts of our lives we dislike, the parts we like. Everything. I saw her yesterday for a coffee. I know if I allow it is, it's going to develop. I know in my head it’s not the right idea, she’s so young (23) and I don’t want to breakup my family, but I feel good inside fully for the first time in a long time.

When I go home, my wife seems distant, not like she used to be when I first knew her. I do love her, and she is usually still the woman I married, but a lot of times she’s just argumentative or complaining about something trivial, like she just wants to moan. I feel like myself when I’m around this other woman. I really don’t want to hurt her feelings, she is a really great person. She’s a beautiful woman, but it’s not about that - relationships to me always were based on emotional attachments and go from there and I feel as emotionally connected to this girl more than anyone since I met my wife. My son is the most important thing to me and I don't want to effect them. I feel really caught between different feelings. Really don't know what to do? Anyone been in anything like this before?

OP posts:
King1982 · 06/05/2015 19:11

I don't blame the victim of domestic violence to go looking elsewhere and I don't blame the victim of domestic violence not putting the perportraitor's needs first. I don't believe anyone in their right mind would.
She either needs to get some serious help or you have to leave her making your child's welfare priority.

ConnieBaby · 06/05/2015 19:13

Yes to what jimjams just said. Just mentioned this thread to DH and said you're having an emotional affair which means you are cheating on your wife even if it's just in your head. You are betraying her trust and disrespecting her.

So there you go, a band point of view.

Christinayangstwistedsister · 06/05/2015 19:24

so the answer to domestic violence is to cheat?

Neither behaviour is acceptable

hesterton · 06/05/2015 19:25

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

King1982 · 06/05/2015 19:30

Christ, what are you on about the 'answer'? I said I wouldn't 'blame' the victim. I didn't say I encourage victims to cheat.

Christinayangstwistedsister · 06/05/2015 19:32

I don't blame the victim of domestic abuse going elsewhere

You wrote it, its the same thing

King1982 · 06/05/2015 19:35

Christ, blame is different to a solution/answer. Do you not agree?

Christinayangstwistedsister · 06/05/2015 19:47

You have said it is okay for him to cheat, you agree?

Lndnmummy · 06/05/2015 19:50

OP, you seem deluded. And arrogant. I hope to God you are not my husband, for a moment I thought that you might be.

Faithless · 06/05/2015 19:59

It would help if you explained the content of your wife's "nagging". Sorry OP, I think using that word makes it more difficult to view you with sympathy in a situation where you are already obviously behaving badly. For example, is she saying things that are abusive and critical of things you can't help, or asking for help around the home/ more time to herself?

Fairenuff · 06/05/2015 20:06

I don't think OP will be back.

AnyFucker · 06/05/2015 20:07

OP is out for cocktales

King1982 · 06/05/2015 20:07

Christ, I don't think you can seperate the two wrongs and judge the cheating as wrong, with out taking into account the violence. It wouldn't surprise me that the victim, without any medical/psychological support, would seek solace away from their abuser.
I'm also not going to dictate how a victim of DV should behave or react. We have laws in place to do that. I do know that I can say the wife shouldn't have abused the OP.
You can't tell whether he would have looked elsewhere with out her violent actions. So I don't blame him for seeking solace/someone to talk to. Low self esteem of victims can be raised by positive feedback from this young woman.

Offred · 06/05/2015 20:28

I'm not sure he has low self esteem tbh, seems more likely he is a 'men shouldn't hit women' sexist type who doesn't consider female on male violence 'real'. Still doesn't make it ok. Still hold to the view that when there has been any violence the relationship is over.

Fairenuff · 06/05/2015 20:29

OP on the off chance that you check in before/after your next rendevous is a idea of what to say to your bit on the side, in case you're still wondering.

King1982 · 06/05/2015 20:34

May be offred, but it would be better to label the perpetrator as that type rather than the victim.
Totally agree about violence in relationships. Not many people on here have made much note of the violence. It would be interesting to see a thread about this and see how many women MNetters would admit to hitting someone in a relationship

TheOldWiseOne · 06/05/2015 20:39

OP and King1982 in cahoots...

King1982 · 06/05/2015 20:44

Old, I'm just giving my own views on DV under my own name. If you don't agree with my views on DV then that's fine. I'd love to hear yours! You come across as though you are fine with it, there are a few conclusions I could come to as to why that is....

FredaMayor · 06/05/2015 20:45

"respond individually if I knew how to" - see 'Message poster' button on each post. But before you do that, OP, I think you have a general communication problem/reluctance which for all I know your DW may share if she has, regrettably, lashed out at you. You have piled a lot of blame up on your DW without having a proper dialogue and understanding each other's point of view.

That is why I'm certain the responses you have had here are not geared to your gender, that would be pointless. Apart from quitting this site, what are your ideas about what you should do about your troubled marriage? Its very obvious you both need professional help - without the assistance of your new confidante - from a relationship counsellor as a matter of urgency before your marriage fizzles out. Your choice.

Fairenuff · 06/05/2015 20:46

I think everyone has said that dv is unacceptable and he would be best to leave the relationship.

OP isn't asking about that though, he's asking for permission for a shagathon with yon woman in coffee shop.

King1982 · 06/05/2015 20:53

Fair, I'm pretty sure few people have said that, in general it's a low percentage of posts that even mention it. I get the impression from this thread that people see DV on the same level as an emotional affair or not as bad as an emotional affair.

AnyFucker · 06/05/2015 20:54

King, go back and look at all the threads where women admit to hitting men

They get their arses chewed and handed back to them on a plate

stop making stuff up

this thread is about the op's behaviour, not that of his wife

nothing justifies the excuses he is making for mooning over a younger woman instead of 1) concentrating on his marriage or 2) ending his marriage for the right reasons (the violence being one)

King1982 · 06/05/2015 20:55

I mean Freda, just above is victim blaming.

King1982 · 06/05/2015 21:04

Fucker, can you link some of those threads if you know of them. I'll find some links for you where op's come on here to discuss a subject that isn't DV they have received but later mention it, people don't stop people from talking about it. Infact IME it is brought to the fore.
I'm being realistic and saying once there has been a victim of violence. This event will effect their future behaviour. I'm sure if their are psychologists about then they will back me up.
I would expect more responses to say leave the bitch and be kind to yourself and only embark on a new relationship when you are ready.
It'll be hard for you but put your child first, take the child and seek police and medical support

Offred · 06/05/2015 21:09

I don't think it helps to ignore bad behaviour and negative attitudes towards women just because a man has been a victim of dv. Especially when there's a possibility the man is ignoring the dv because of his sexist views and there is a child in the middle of it.