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i have messed up big time and i don't think he can forgive me

111 replies

hazzie22 · 24/04/2015 11:43

hey all, so i've been seeing a guy for a while and about a month ago he said he loved me and i said it back. we are NOT boyfriend and girlfriend and nobody knows about us.

about a fortnight later i got really really drunk to the point I cannot even remember anything and i woke up in bed with a friend of his. I was mortified and felt like crying there and then as I had no memory of even speaking to him, going back to his house or memory of what happened. I decided not to tell the guy im seeing even though i was devastated.

a week later he found out as his friend had apparantly been bragging about me to his mates. naturally, he went mental and said he was devastated and that we should end things and so on. i told him i couldnt apologise enough and explained what had happened, although i cant blame it on alcohol but i am not exaggerating when i say i remember nothing. he said he felt sick and felt liek crying (this is a massive thing as he is not in touch with his emotions!) and he's devastated cos it's made him realise how much he cares about me but that he can never forget this now and he will always be reminded of it when he sees his friend.

we have continued to speak every day since, from waking up in a morning to going to bed at night, but he wont let me see him face to face as he says that wont help anything right now.

he text me this morning saying last night was the worst night he's had in regards of thinking about it and that no matter how much i say sorry, things will never change.

im absolutely devastated. he hasn't text back since this morning and i dont know what to do. i want to make a go of things with him but i have royally messed it all up. how can i convince him that this can work? in the whole time of seeing him, despite not being exclusive, i have never slept with anyone and he knows this. ive been crying all week and feel sick! i dont want to lose him but i have a feeling he wont be able to see past this now and call it a day.

shall i just leave him to text back and not bother him? he knows exactly how i feel about him and it's cutting me up. i cant take it every day feeling this way but i also cant lose him..

OP posts:
hazzie22 · 24/04/2015 15:16

hes not married!

i dont want to move on, as i love him and i cant bear to lose him, but theres also NOTHING more i can say to him. i feel like showing him this thread and the repsonses from you guys to make him realise it wasnt my fault, but he knows this already..

OP posts:
hazzie22 · 24/04/2015 15:17

one minute hes fine, yesterday there was no mention of it and everything was lovely, but then this morning he was snappy and said last night was the worst so far for thinking things over. i just dont get it.

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AnyFucker · 24/04/2015 15:18

He is fucking with you just as much as his skanky mate did

hazzie22 · 24/04/2015 15:19

i think im just worried as he is out with friends and he may get drunk and end up snapping if anyone mentions my name, and then in turn take it out on me which i know is wrong but i also understand how id feel if he slept with my friend too.

sorry to be repetative guys but i really like him and the thought of not speaking/seeing him is killing me.

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NewNameFor2015 · 24/04/2015 15:26

I see a few red flags here, 1) the relationship was a secret despite it being serious enough to say 'i love you' 2) he's making you feel guilty for something that is not your fault. Maybe you shouldn't have got so drunk, and maybe the blame does lie at your door for that HOWEVER no one and I mean NO ONE has the right to have sex with you when you are that drunk. NO ONE has the right to assume consent because you gave off signals. My first thoughts reading through your op were 1) that's rape and 2) was your drink spiked?
Focus on yourself right now, forget this looser and his friends. It feels like the worst thing in the world right now, but he is not good for you.

AnyFucker · 24/04/2015 15:27

This isn't how a "relationship" is meant to be

he is just using you for a bit of sport and ego stroking

pnutter · 24/04/2015 15:27

They both sound dodgy / horrible

Op im wondering why you sound so obsessed with him, it sounds overwhelming?

BuzzardBird · 24/04/2015 15:27

How do you mean "take it out on me"?

Twinklestein · 24/04/2015 15:27

I don't think he does know it wasn't your fault, or he wouldn't be blaming you.

I get where he's coming from insofar as the girl he's supposedly in love with has apparently slept with his mate & he's not sure exactly what happened. But to be honest, given the circumstances he's not being very understanding. He's putting his own hurt feelings above yours.

If he's going to take it out on you, you would be better off without him.

BuzzardBird · 24/04/2015 15:31

Are you not concerned that you might be pregnant?

differentnameforthis · 24/04/2015 15:35

DO NOT show him this thread.

OP, if you stay with this guy, who wasn't with you, yet objected to his mate raping you, yet only because he thinks you cheated, not because you are a victim, he WILL use it against you at any given time.

He doesn't care about you, if he did, he would be having words with his mate & asking what the hell he thought he was doing by assaulting you!

Yet all he is doing is acting the victim. And sulking.

Please walk away. He is showing you who he is, and that isn't a nice person!

hazzie22 · 24/04/2015 15:40

i really dont like to say rape, please, i dont want to think of it like that. and no i am not worried that im pregnant because i aren't.

i will wait and see what happens.

im not obsessed - but we have known each other a long time and we get on so well, i want to be with him and it hurts.

thanks for listening.

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Twinklestein · 24/04/2015 15:47

But if you were raped hazzie how does it help you not to think of it like that? It's certainly not going to help your relationship. And if your bf dumps you because he thinks you cheated but actually you were raped by his friend, that's pretty shit.

Twinklestein · 24/04/2015 15:47

Btw were there any obvious signs of sexual activity that night? Are you sure this guy is even telling the truth about that?

pnutter · 24/04/2015 15:50

Sorry op..i don't know what it is but I feel worried about you. The dynamic of the whole thing seems 'off ' Not meaning to judge at all. In fact I was 'date' raped twenty odd years ago.
Please keep talking on here .

ShortandSweeter · 24/04/2015 15:50

She can't remember anything so she may have given consent.

DragonsCanHop · 24/04/2015 15:52

Scary reading. You have no memory but most of your money, who was buying your drinks then? What is the last thing you remember?

Do you know you had sex? (It's quite obvious from a not sober enough to clean your self up way in the next morning)

SolidGoldBrass · 24/04/2015 15:57

Both these men are woman-hating scumbags. love. It may even be a game they frequently play with one another - track down each other's latest GF, get her drunk and sexually assault her...
I think you should cut any contact with Prick no 1 (the supposed secret boyfriend) and avoid Prick no 2 (the possible rapist) as well. And look into getting some counselling or some supportive and feminist friends before you date anyone again. I am getting the impression you're quite young, and you need some support to get to a place where you don't feel that men are entitled to treat you like shit.

differentnameforthis · 24/04/2015 16:07

She can't remember anything so she may have given consent.

It doesn't work like that. If she was so drunk that she can't remember anything, her consent - IF given - is invalid.

A woman who is so drunk isn't able to consent.

BuzzardBird · 24/04/2015 16:12

Agree with different.

I will ask again OP, are you concerned about being pregnant?

LadyBlaBlah · 24/04/2015 16:45

There is however another scenario I have in my mind here:

You are not being totally straight with us about what has gone on with the friend - were you talking to him before you blacked out? What was the conversation in the morning? Why were you even with one of his friends?

If there is more to it, then I can understand why you are pining for 'bf' and feeling horrifically guilty.

But otherwise, if you have told us everything, there is a big possibility that this friend is a Grade A Scumbag and furthermore your 'bf' needs dumping pronto and this denial that something may have happened, although understandable, is not good for your clearly already suffering self-esteem.

AnyFucker · 24/04/2015 17:09

She can't remember anything so she may have given consent.

Stupid, ignorant comment

Rafflesway · 24/04/2015 17:31

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intlmanofmystery · 24/04/2015 17:35

Mmm, I was thinking the same as you BlaBlah. This could be seen as "girl meets boy, girl has too much to drink, girl sleeps with boy, girl's boyfriend finds out, boyfriend goes apeshit, girl goes into damage limitation". I'm not saying that it is that way but something doesn't feel right.

OP, as others have asked are you sure you had sex? If you were too drunk to consent then it is rape, why do you not want to say this? It doesn't sound like your "bf" believes you, why not?

AnyFucker · 24/04/2015 17:38

It doesn't sound like your "bf" believes you, why not?

There are a lot stupid people who do not believe an account of rape. Have a look upthread.