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HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 6.

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WellWhoKnew · 23/04/2015 22:11

If you are struggling to come to terms with the ending of your marriage, no matter how that came about, nor how long it's been, this is the place where you come to say SHIT THIS IS HARD, when you hit those times of despair.

It is the place where it is never rude to interrupt if you're having a bad day and need to vent. No matter what.

It is a place where no one will tell you to 'move on', 'get over it', or 'at least you've got...'

I've also learnt there's actually a helluva lot of studies into 'delayed shock', which occurs around about months 4 - 6 after the trauma. So if you're surrounded by people (or indeed yourself!) expecting you to be 'getting over it by now', and you're feeling worse than ever...then this is why this thread began. You're pretty normal - it's just the 'real world' ain't dealing with this shit.

And if you're one of those for whom the profound shock has just registered on the Richter scale: it's horrendous. You too belong here.

It is the place where the only thing anyone will tell you to do is keep on keeping on (KOKO) and when you feel you can't: that's okay too. Try again tomorrow.

Amongst the shit, there are always giggles. But the only rule is: It is ALWAYS okay to say SHIT THIS IS HARD and interrupt the giggles. No apology necessary.

The bar, owned by Hobbit, but run by committee, is open to all as we wind our way through divorce, come to terms with our individual circumstances, or just cope with adjusting to a new life.

As for some glossary terms:

Jess is our dog, also owned by Hobbit, but here by popular demand. She perseveres with us all needing a daily dosage of her. Hobbit being the fabulous woman she is makes sure we are taken care of.

Izzitinis are a revolting drink. Izzie is gorgeous and inspirational but misguided in the world of bar cocktails.

No. 6's is what we are/were married to. Check out an earlier thread for what we actually call them.

My name is WellWhoKnew. I am divorced. He left me just shy of 12 months ago. He planned it, I was blindsided. Throughout my horrendous divorce, I learnt that our individual situations are always different, our feelings are the pretty much the same - although not necessarily the same at any given moment in time. THIS SHIT IS HARD with moments of light relief.

And our feelings are valid. Equally.

Our values, our opinions, ourselves matter. As well. No matter what they say.

I am trying to rebuild my life. I'm leaving the deadwood behind. I'm learning to laugh again. One day, I will 'move on', 'get over it' and be thankful that I've got what I've got. Until then I KOKO.

The previous thread is this one:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2352545-HOBBITS-BAR-still-finding-it-hard-to-move-on-part-5?msgid=53939716

If you wish to follow from the start, then click on the link above and find all previous links there.

And when times get hard, or you need some motivation, then this song sums it up.

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Izzie595 · 02/05/2015 00:23

sitting like some sad sack of shit in a bar looking like 2 desperate middle aged men

That made me lol!

Thank you for the compliment, by the way. It means a lot. I spent too many years waiting to hear one that was actually about me, about the person I am. I could say loads more on that, but why should I validate it? It's the past. When my dad died I realised that it wasn't always possible to hold on to people I loved, but that equally, life was too short to waste it with people who had a negative effect on my life. I cut ties with some people like that. I never regretted it. He is one of those people, isn't he?

Izzie595 · 02/05/2015 00:26

milfbobs is slapping on the fake tan as we speak......

Izzie595 · 02/05/2015 00:31

Right ladies, I'm off to bed shortly. I will get the new thread up in the morning. I want to start it when I'm in a positive frame of mind. Will post the link on thread. Night all xx

bobs123 · 02/05/2015 01:42

Cutted hope you're okay. I realise it's immensely tough for you at the moment. However can I gently suggest that comments about not wanting to exist any more are very worrying to all of us and do set alarm bells ringing.

Please if you are feeling that bad contact the Samaritans for help and advice. Have you been to the doctor and considered counselling?

Let us know you're ok when you read this - and why you're in a strange bed! Flowers

WellWhoKnew · 02/05/2015 02:02

Cutted in the very early days, and I mean days, not weeks, I got into the car and drove and drove and drove. Hundreds of miles a day. I also drove hundreds of miles at night.

I hadn't driven for well over a decade.

I'm lucky I didn't kill someone, or myself, but there was this over-riding urge to just runaway. Of course, I had to come back, I had responsibilities after all.

I know that feeling. I utterly understand the begging to God: please just kill me now. The feeling of wanting to be run over by a bus because it will hurt less.

It's just a 'symptom' of the despair you are feeling.

BUT I promise you, and I really can, that you won't feel like you do now for the rest of your life.

On the plus, I'm a much better driver these days! But, on reflection, it was probably not the best way to re-learn how to drive.

But the early weeks are manic, reactive, undisciplined and horrendous. But that's the early days. Not the rest of your life. It will, and does, get easier.

So "just" take it one day at a time. No more. No less.

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CuttedUpPear · 02/05/2015 05:19

I'm here, sorry to post my worrying thoughts. In a strange bed because I'm working away.
Not able to take any time to myself because of work, and I'm with people a lot of the time so that's probably a good thing.

CuttedUpPear · 02/05/2015 05:36

bobs I have been through this before, more than once, but most recently and with most difficulty around 16 months ago when we had another 'break'. I was utterly desperate then as well and saw my GP who gave me beta blockers and the number of a counsellor, who I saw a few times but at £60 a time I just can't afford to go back to for any significant period.

That time DP and I ended up getting back together with a good resolution for the future so it is even more painful to be back here again.

I know that I am frail emotionally and I am feeling very painfully all of the low episodes and times when I've been unable to cope in my life.
The pattern seems to be increasing and with a few years of depression possibly linked to the menopause or maybe caused by relationship difficulties, I feel a failure as a person.

I'm on hrt patches now, which are helpful, but along the last few years I've ended up alienating many friends and family and creating massive rifts I just cannot cross.

Hobbitwife001 · 02/05/2015 08:53

Just moseyed into the new bar, I like what Izzie has done, she is a clever cat.
'Mother' has given me a stern talking to, and now I don't feel so bad about feeling bad, so thats not bad. Smile

It was not my intention to make anyone regret posting how they are feeling, you haven't caused me any distress, only FF and BF are to blame for that. If we didn't get it all out on here, how are we to get better?

I started this thread exactly because I needed help and advice, and that's what I received, in abundance, and I hope you all will, and in turn pay it forward to others < and there are always others> who need support.
The newer ladies are already offering their shoulders to cry on and hands to hold and that's heartening to see. Xx

Izzie595 · 02/05/2015 10:05

I totally echo what Hobbit has said in her last two paragraphs.

Cutted I will post later re your last post, I want to see what others say first. This is not really my area, so I'm not the best placed to give specific advice.

everyone I have started the new thread now. Link below. I know we still have quite a few posts to do on this thread, though. Yes, I'm one of those who turn up early for everything! So I will leave you all to decide about how to proceed with this one.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2369206-HOBBITS-BAR-still-finding-it-hard-to-move-on-part-7?watched=1

iwashappy · 02/05/2015 15:05

Cutted I am very sorry that you are feeling so low, it is very early days for you still and I know you will be feeling distraught and feeling that you will stay that way. No doubt you cannot envisage a time when you will be feeling anything other than the depths of despair. But I promise you that very gradually, and with some steps back sometimes, you will stop feeling like you do right now.

People on here told me that the pain would ease in time and I didn't believe them. My world was teetering on the brink for a bit until it really fell apart in October. Seven months later I laugh, I smile, I enjoy parts of my life again. I do still cry sometimes but nothing like I did.

You are not a failure in any way, you are going through a horrible, traumatic experience which is bloody hard so be gentle on yourself. x

Izzie595 · 02/05/2015 18:51

Well, the new thread is up and running nicely now. But we still have space to fill on here. We need to fill it. So, I shall say......

Izzie595 · 02/05/2015 18:53

.........WWK you have been a brilliant proprietor over the last two threads. We love you loads.

iwashappy · 02/05/2015 18:57

Thank you Izzie for the new thread.

Izzie595 · 02/05/2015 19:05

And thank you iwas!for our sparring. You have a wicked sense of humour. Oh and you can have that exclamation mark for free

Hobbitwife001 · 02/05/2015 19:07

I thought I would put some of Jess 's best photos on to fill the thread up and give everyone a smile, Smile

HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 6.
Hobbitwife001 · 02/05/2015 19:08

And this one....

HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 6.
iwashappy · 02/05/2015 19:09

Thank you Izzie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are not so bad yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Especially for you and Rozalia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hobbitwife001 · 02/05/2015 19:09

And another....

HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 6.
iwashappy · 02/05/2015 19:10

We could play dominoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!_

Izzie595 · 02/05/2015 19:10

AwHobbit that has made my day.

You and Jess are as always the star of the show. Love you bothxxxxx

Hobbitwife001 · 02/05/2015 19:10

Cutie pie....

HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 6.
Hobbitwife001 · 02/05/2015 19:12

Love all you ladies....xxxxx!!!!!!!!!!!

HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 6.
Izzie595 · 02/05/2015 19:12

And the pic for 1 pleeeezeCake

Hobbitwife001 · 02/05/2015 19:13

Hey Izzie, this ones for you my love.....

iwashappy · 02/05/2015 19:13

Hello Hobbit, thank you sweetheart. You are lovely and so is Jess. KOKO xxxxxxx