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HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 6.

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WellWhoKnew · 23/04/2015 22:11

If you are struggling to come to terms with the ending of your marriage, no matter how that came about, nor how long it's been, this is the place where you come to say SHIT THIS IS HARD, when you hit those times of despair.

It is the place where it is never rude to interrupt if you're having a bad day and need to vent. No matter what.

It is a place where no one will tell you to 'move on', 'get over it', or 'at least you've got...'

I've also learnt there's actually a helluva lot of studies into 'delayed shock', which occurs around about months 4 - 6 after the trauma. So if you're surrounded by people (or indeed yourself!) expecting you to be 'getting over it by now', and you're feeling worse than ever...then this is why this thread began. You're pretty normal - it's just the 'real world' ain't dealing with this shit.

And if you're one of those for whom the profound shock has just registered on the Richter scale: it's horrendous. You too belong here.

It is the place where the only thing anyone will tell you to do is keep on keeping on (KOKO) and when you feel you can't: that's okay too. Try again tomorrow.

Amongst the shit, there are always giggles. But the only rule is: It is ALWAYS okay to say SHIT THIS IS HARD and interrupt the giggles. No apology necessary.

The bar, owned by Hobbit, but run by committee, is open to all as we wind our way through divorce, come to terms with our individual circumstances, or just cope with adjusting to a new life.

As for some glossary terms:

Jess is our dog, also owned by Hobbit, but here by popular demand. She perseveres with us all needing a daily dosage of her. Hobbit being the fabulous woman she is makes sure we are taken care of.

Izzitinis are a revolting drink. Izzie is gorgeous and inspirational but misguided in the world of bar cocktails.

No. 6's is what we are/were married to. Check out an earlier thread for what we actually call them.

My name is WellWhoKnew. I am divorced. He left me just shy of 12 months ago. He planned it, I was blindsided. Throughout my horrendous divorce, I learnt that our individual situations are always different, our feelings are the pretty much the same - although not necessarily the same at any given moment in time. THIS SHIT IS HARD with moments of light relief.

And our feelings are valid. Equally.

Our values, our opinions, ourselves matter. As well. No matter what they say.

I am trying to rebuild my life. I'm leaving the deadwood behind. I'm learning to laugh again. One day, I will 'move on', 'get over it' and be thankful that I've got what I've got. Until then I KOKO.

The previous thread is this one:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2352545-HOBBITS-BAR-still-finding-it-hard-to-move-on-part-5?msgid=53939716

If you wish to follow from the start, then click on the link above and find all previous links there.

And when times get hard, or you need some motivation, then this song sums it up.

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bobs123 · 01/05/2015 09:42

WWK don't know whether to say congratulation or commiserations Hmm Just don't spend all day in the wine cellar Grin

CuttedUpPear · 01/05/2015 09:44

Everyone who commented about the traffic violation I just did, I'm not worried about DP criticizing, he won't. It was in a city where I got a ticket recently for accidentally ending up in a very short bus lane (two car lengths) so I know their cameras do work.

I think I just felt really spun out and distressed and incapable, it wouldn't have happened if I hadn't felt completely torn apart by my present circumstances.

I'm sinking today. After looking at chaps on online dating last night I have spent hours turning over emails I want to write to DP saying that I accept the way he wants to live his life and that I am happy to go along with it, something that I was stubbornly against before. It's all about 'commitment' and where we live and if we live together.
The sick panic has moved in my body from around my heart to lower down, I thought I might vomit this morning driving DS to college. Then I sobbed all over him before he got out of the car.

I don't want this, I want my DP back, I want to see him. I'm almost looking at flights to go and just arrive there. You don't need to tell me how unwise that would be.

Frizzybear · 01/05/2015 10:03

cutted just wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you, can't really help or advise you as I am living this too, cannot believe the physical bashing this nightmare has, I've woken up with my back covered in an eczema type rash this morning, never ever had that in my life, lost about a stone in 10 days, and am like a zombie, this was not our choice Hun, our worlds have been turned upside down and as far as I can tell from the most wonderful ladies on here, it's all part of this grim process, like I said before I always thought I was stronger than this but I'm not, I'm really struggling, I too want to ring him all the time and plead with him to change his mind but what stopped me yesterday was the thought of him having to tell me again that he's so sorry but he just doesn't love me anymore, it's the most painful thing I've ever heard, we will get through this together babe, just keep posting your thoughts and fears, so many inspirational ladies on here who know where we are in this mess right now xxxxxx

bobs123 · 01/05/2015 10:12

Cutted/Frizzy just to say I'm feeling for you Sad Yes it is shit, and all I can say is for the moment try to kind to yourselves. Don't do anything which might add to the stress that you don't have to. Everything, even the simplest of things, will take massive concentration at the moment, so just do what you need to to get by. Getting out for a walk with a friend will help and take your mind of stuff if you can? Flowers

fairylightsbackintheloft · 01/05/2015 10:52

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Frizzybear · 01/05/2015 10:55

well you did itFlowers don't know whether to cry for you, or what really Matie, all I keep saying is I wish it was this time next year but I know the crappy struggles continue, be proud that you have achieved what you have so far, I can't seem to muster up anything at the moment, but only in my second week, the 21st April will be a date I will always dread till the day I die, but I hope with each one that passes, I look back on the last one and see myself change and be stronger, like you lovely lot on here

Frizzybear · 01/05/2015 11:05

fairy none of it will ever make any sense.. Ever, incomprehensible, unimaginable and totally fucking mental, like you certain people I feel have let me down, not even a text from his brother, when there dad died it was me sleeping at the hospice for 3 nights waiting for that lovely man to die but yet I don't even get a text to say " keep your chin up" or trying to talk some sort of sense into him, life has thrown so much shit at us the last 5 years and we got through it all just to end up here, just feel so let down that he is doing this to "us" we were supposed to grow old together, but now it's over and I have so many things to face, really want to hate him but I just can't

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Ali3333 · 01/05/2015 11:27

cutted I really think you should go to Women's Aid and you will get help there.
Fairy I remember when at the very beginning ( although different circumstances) my h and I were only dating but the mother of his daughter ( I usually call her pedo as he was 16 and she 27 ) Anyway what she used to do was just turn up at his house and say 'your turn' and drop his dd off. Now this is one tactic but it can backfire as it actually brought him and I closer together more quickly, but in your case totally different. This is a suggestion purely if you want a break. It is not a way to win back your h as quite frankly it won't work and you're better off without him, which I know is hypocritical of me because at times I still desperately want my h back. But what I've learned is, that's normal and it's ok to miss them. We just have to try and start living without them Sad

CuttedUpPear · 01/05/2015 12:09

Ali what would Womens Aid do for me? I live in my own home and DP lives abroad.

Frizzy thanks for your thoughts. I'm losing weight as well.
Also on a mad work schedule every day including the weekend until about the middle of May so no time for myself but I do feel I'm not delivering what I should work wise. I'm freelance.

TheOldWiseOne · 01/05/2015 12:13

WWK I imagine it is still a hard day despite how you now feel... Brew for now..

frizzy fairy cutted these are very early days for all of you - if I can say anything helpful it is that we tend to go back and forwards - feeling in control then not, feeling all ready to go to town with paperwork etc then not looking at it for days ( or weeks even ;-) ) contacting them or not - really there is no right and wrong and there are no rules. At times when I can't face thinking about any of it I just switch off totally by watching some series on Netflix /TV or whatever..just go with the flow ..if you feel like doing nothing then do bugger all!

Maybe it is easier for me as mine does not contact me at all unless I ask him about something. He is living in his own little bubble misery world where he is the main actor, support, screenwriter, director and producer of "My Happy Life (Not) " ... I can't imagine how it must be to have these men offering hugs or " how are you"s? Cheeky bastards. Think I would stick a knife between their eyes Blush

Cassawoof · 01/05/2015 12:31

frizzy fairy cutted I know exactly what it is like. It is so incomprehensible that this person you thought you knew can just be so cold to you. I keep thinking he might change his mind, although I know he won't, he's been moved out 6 months now and has told me he doesn't want to come back. But you just can't believe after all this time and DCs that this is happening. Everything you are doing is normal, and actually you are all being a lot stronger than I was. I spent months trying the question him, but they have made up their minds, they believe the way they are remembering your marriages as this is what justifies their actions now.

I'm struggling at the moment. The pain in my chest is back, I know I should be used to this and have accepted it by now but I'm not and I can't, although i know there is no hope. Like you others, I just want him back, I just want it to be like it used to be. Sad

ninetynineonehundred · 01/05/2015 12:35

Hi all, I fancy a rant at the bar if that's ok (will probably rant then not return but I want to get some of this out)

H left 6 weeks ago on my instigation.
We were together 18 years, married 15.

When did my life become this place?
5 years ago I was pprofessionally very successful, money, social life, marriage.

I left work to have dd1 and 5 years later after...
5 years not sleeping, 2 children, 1 miscarriage, legal trouble with neighbours, h long term unemployment, almost dying giving birth, lost all savings, dad having heart attack, losing closest friendship ...and that's just the highlights...
It's been so awful since dd came along (not because of her, she's my sunshine, but lots of things happened afterwards)
..

I've woken up as a single mum, almost 40 in tears at the dentist because the bills go out today and my income support claim hasn't been approved yet so I can't afford to fix broken tooth.
My career has gone. I'm so tired. My dd misses her daddy.

I've never had to cope alone and it's hard. All because a nice man didn't want to grow up and just wanted me to be his mummy.

I wanted to fix things so badly.

I'm starting to face the fact that there may not be a reconciliation and I'm going to be alone with two kids, never being able to move forward because I'm so tired.

I can't afford basic party food for my dds birthday party tomorrow. H had to give me £20.

When did things get like this?

I could have coped with anything if he had stepped up to the mark and been a partner.

Now I'm alone and because I'm a Christian and took the vows seriously (please don't take offence, I'm not saying for a second that other people don't) I can't be with anyone else.

I know some of you have had truly awful times with your husbands but although I'm normally cheerful today is hard

Ali3333 · 01/05/2015 14:03

Ninetynine have you applied for tax credits ? Go and see a benefits adviser if you haven't already. Do you get child support ?
I know this is practical stuff but like you I got left up shit creek without a paddle !
Rant as much as you need to, I don't know anyone on here who doesn't ... That's what it's for.
Everyone of us can feel your pain and you just need to let it out for the day ... Have you got a friend you could see to talk/ moan to ? I find this helps, although I have to limit mind now as I'm sure I've become boring lol ... It's just fucking hard and that's that. Baby steps, get help wherever you can and take care x

Izzie595 · 01/05/2015 15:51

Hi all, just back from work. Been separated 6 months now. I was clearing out and filing emails the last hour. I know I'm organised when there is very little in both inbox and sent. Christ, I have hundreds of them! That's six months of just doing the absolute minimum in work.

WWK an unbelievably tortuous route to divorce, all condensed into 12 months. The start of a new year for you. This time focused on you. May you continue to heal, pause for breath and enjoy peace of mind. And thrive, of course. You have and continue to be an absolute inspiration to everyone on this thread. How you could have posted such good advice, to have taken the time to think of others when you were dealing with your own Armageddon is totally beyond me. It's easy to forget that you were going through all the same feelings as the rest of us. You have my utmost respect.

Hobbit I know you have a lot to deal with at the moment. We are all behind you, sending you strength in abundance. Every single one of us on this thread owes you so much for allowing us to use your own thread to deal with our issues. KOKO babe xx

There have been a few wobbles from some of us "oldies" recently, what with anniversaries of various things rearing their heads, and of course sometimes memories are raked up by some of the newbies. That's the nature of all this shit. It's been heartwarming to see some of the newbies giving advice too, helping each other in their bleakest personal times. Well done to all of us for pulling together and supporting each other. One day all of our personal nightmares will no longer come back to bite us, but we will always have a special place in our hearts for all those that have helped us to heal and move on.

I will put up the new thread later and post a link on here. Meantime, am off to start some decorating prep. Will check back occasionally. KOKO all xx

Ali3333 · 01/05/2015 16:54

Hobbit thinking of you !

bobs123 · 01/05/2015 16:59

Sorry, don't know what's going on but hope you're okay Hobbit Izzie can you PM me re this? x

Ali3333 · 01/05/2015 17:05

So the good news was ... Last night was my first nights full sleep, as I had calmed down and not answered fuckwits abusive txt.
Bad news, told an hour ago I'm no longer entitled to legal aid which is presumably because I was awarded child tax credits, only extra on form. So now I've gone back to defcom 1 and in total panic because not only can I not afford to correspond through solicitor but I have to go back to emailing h for pretty much everything as he is so controlling about school runs, horse runs, dd and ds, sale of car etcetc
Also I can't now start to have my divorce proceedings start, I can't really do anything much as I don't have money to pay solicitor and he got me in this debt to start with. I literally can feel my heart race, blood pressure rise and panic setting in. Feeling sick as a dog. The thought of having to contact him and have him subject me to more abuse is just something I can't cope with now.... Just when I thought I was starting to turn a corner Sad

Izzie595 · 01/05/2015 17:13

Hobbit is just taking a little step back for a while. She will still be on here but just needs some space. We all handle things differently. Some of us rant on here, some of us just step back a bit.

She will be back with the Jessgrams in her own time, so keep sending those sausages in the post ......

Izzie595 · 01/05/2015 17:23

Ali so sorry to hear all this. I think some of the others will be in a good place to advise you here

BravingSpring · 01/05/2015 18:45

Supposed to be going out tonight and I can't face it, my confidence is rock bottom.

I've got some work to do on me before i can even think about starting dating.

Izzie595 · 01/05/2015 18:50

My mind was churning over re the wedding anniversary. Did a mega post, it just all came out. Decided not to post, but just copy to ipad instead. I'm struggling a bit now. Had a few tears. Thought I had dealt with this as I was leading up to it. Ah well, better to shed a few tears than be where I was over the last few years. Onwards and upwards.

Izzie595 · 01/05/2015 18:54

I've got some work to do on me before i can even think about starting dating

I'm also one of those who would have to have more confidence before dating. It would actually sap my confidence rather than boost it.

I also want to be a person in my own right, rather than a separated woman, if you know what I mean. Not in this limbo state. Ah fuck dating for now. Maybe for forever.

AccordingtoMe · 01/05/2015 19:05

Im not sure if this has been posted before but I know you all love the song nights. I was wandering around my tube account earlier, found a few that had me crying streams Sad but this one I thought might be a bit relevant, its got sass and strength

Lyrics;

Lost in time I can't count the words
I said when I thought they went unheard
All of those harsh thoughts so unkind
Cause I wanted you

And now I sit here I'm all alone
So here sits a bloody mess, tears fly home
A circle of angels, deep in war
Cause I wanted you

Weak as I am, no tears for you
Weak as I am, no tears for you
Deep as I am, I'm no ones fool
Weak as I am

So what am I now I'm love last home
I'm all of the soft words I once owned
If I opened my he heart, there'd be no space for air
Cause I wanted you

Weak as I am, no tears for you
Weak as I am, no tears for you
Deep as I am, I'm no ones fool
Weak as I am

In this tainted soul
In this weak young heart
Am I too much for you

In this tainted soul
In this weak young heart
Am I too much for you

In this tainted soul
In this weak young heart
Am I too much for you

Weak as I am
Weak as I am
Weak as I am
Weak as I am, am, am

Weak as I am
Am I to much for you
Weak as I am
Am I to much for you
Weak as I am
Am I to much for you
Weak as I am
Am I to much for you
Weak as I am

AccordingtoMe · 01/05/2015 19:09

Hmm just realised that was quite depressing so sorry Sad

Shall go forthwith and find something uplifting