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If refused sex, does your DP/DH....

110 replies

poppiesinaline · 16/10/2006 18:15

go into a bad mood? I said 'No' to DH last night and now he isnt talking to me This is a common occurrence. His silence can last up to 2 or 3 days - like thats going to make me give him what he wants!! NOT!!!!

Does anyone elses DH/DP do this. Just wondering if this is normal behaviour?

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ParanoidAndroid · 19/10/2006 12:23

Xenia - your point about medication is well made. However, it took me (and my psych) about 4 or 5 goes to find this particular combination of pills for my depression and to be really frank with you, my depression can be life-threatening and so in my books, retrieving my libido is further down the scale of importance! Plus I believe that most ADs have some sort of impact on libido.

Joelallie - you're right. After a long time together (18 years in our case) the shine does wear off a bit. It is a continuous effort to keep the relationship going - not in a negative sense, although I know that "effort" sounds awful! It's just that a good relationship doesn't happen without attention being given to it, without consciously deciding to give and take, without remembering that it involves "through thick and thin, sickness and health etc etc" (I can't even remember my marriage vows now!!!!!) It doesn't mean that we don't love each other (although there have been times.....) it just means that the initial fervour, all-consuming desire for each other, wears off after time. I think if a couple can work through life's ups and downs together, then it is amazing but it doesn't necessarily come easily.

When we have one of our fairly frequent discussions about our mismatched sex drives, my DH often points out that he desperately wants me to want him. He wants me to 'throw myself at him, rip his clothes off and drag him to bed'. This is where I find it difficult. To do this I have to be acting. I have to pretend that I'm full of desire for sex with this man. To me this is deceitful. I don't want sex with him. I don't want sex with any man at all - it's not that my DH is unattractive, it's just that no-one floats my boat. As I said earlier I usually enjoy sex when we have it. And I know that it must be difficult for DH having to initiate sex all the time. But I have drawn a line at pretending that I'm desperate for sex, and so we have agreed that we can have 'every-day' type of sex - when he'd like it, I don't particularly but will oblige - and that is that.

We can have great sex and there are times when I do desire him it's just very rare! We went away for three nights last year (without children, of course), stayed in a fab hotel in a fab location and had great sex, the swinging from the chandaliers (sp?) type. Would I have had such a good weekend if we hadn't had sex? Yes frankly. It doesn't make or break my enjoyment of life. (DH was ecstatic though )

I think there is a huge amount of pressure on women to think sex, be sexy, dress up provocatively - all of which I can do, and I'm sure others can. There is a lot of discussion from theoretical viewpoints - the feminists, those on their high horses etc. There is b*gger all frank discussion about living with mismatched libidos etc and the day to day impact on our lives.

I'm not sure what point I'm making really so I'll sign off now and make some coffee!

ParanoidAndroid · 19/10/2006 12:26

X-posting going on here!

Joelallie - your point about space is absolutely spot on. I like my space, no, more than that - I LOVE and NEED my space. I'm not a particularly physically affectionate person - I'm happy to hug and hold hands, but I'm equally happy (if not slightly more so) to be in my own space on the sofa, even if my legs are lying on his lap etc. Actually I quite like being in my own chair

Judy1234 · 19/10/2006 12:35

A lot of lack of sex drive is due to medical issues that could be sorted out and if it's important to someone's partner then it shoudl be important to that person too I think, just as much as if the man has erectile dysfunction (which we occasionally had).

I like the suggestion of compromise too. Someone wants once a day, other wants once a month so once a week may just do it. A lot of people can't or won't talk about it to each other. At least if one is communicating their needs that's a very good start. No one wants to go to bed with someone who's only doing it for the sake of it or to please them, what I call "shopping list" sex, where you're lying there thinking of England or Tescos.

mumfor1standfinaltime · 19/10/2006 12:36

Can't believe this post. Is there anyone out there that actually enjoys sex?

My dh doesn't ever ask for sex with words.
He will just hug me and kiss me and well you know.
He says he never asks as he doesn't want to be turned down! I don't think I have ever turned him down as he always knows the right buttons to push and he seems to know the right times to have sex.
If I want to get close then I sometimes ask or I just initiate it!

mumfor1standfinaltime · 19/10/2006 12:38

'shopping list' sex, love it!

ParanoidAndroid · 19/10/2006 12:38

But Xenia - compromise is fine. But I don't want sex more than once a month, so when we have sex once a week - what am I supposed to do? Pretend that I want it, or have us both acknowledge that I might not want it but I will enjoy it?

It might not sound romantic but there's less deceit involved?

ParanoidAndroid · 19/10/2006 12:40

Mumfor1st - I enjoy sex, it's great, I'm quite happy to explore different things etc etc etc. But I feel no desire for it when I'm not doing it. It doesn't pop into my head when I'm doing something else, I don't think 'ooh I'm feeling horny today', it just doesn't happen. But I enjoy it.

mumfor1standfinaltime · 19/10/2006 12:45

I don't think about it all the time, just now and then. We don't have a strict 'sex timetable' we just do it when we want to, sometimes 3 times a week, sometimes 3 times a month, depends on what we are doing elsewhere in our lives.

I think people worry too much about how much they are having, just chill out and enjoy each other! For us it isn't just about sex, its about the lead up to it. For example we have planned a night in on Friday with a candlelit meal, (it may lead to sex it may not!) where we can talk and enjoy each others company, I think this is what some couples lack - communication. Not saying we are perfect, as we are not.

joelallie · 19/10/2006 12:46

android - we sound so similar. I never want it. But I enjoy it when it happens. Maybe I'd like things to be different but I don't have a real problem with the situation TBH. And most of the time neither does DH - because we've talked about it. It's compromise. But if he started to sulk or tried to make me feel guilty about it I would really resent him. I married a grown-up.

Judy1234 · 19/10/2006 21:13

I've always thought about sex a lot. people just differ and it's only a problem if you don't have the same sex drive.

Yes, if he wants it every day (some people like it more than once a day) and you once a month I think people should have it once a week, even if you don't feel like it. Don't you find once it's got going it is okay anyway? Isn't it the least someone can do for their partner?

I do think the tactic os Mr mumfor1standfinaltime can work best, not asking - asking is inviting rejection in a way. Just getting on with it is more romantic unless you're with someone who's like to knee you in the groin if you put your arms round her I suppose.

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