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Is he cheating on me?

134 replies

anoldchestnut · 11/10/2006 09:53

For those of you that haven't followed my DH and porn thread here here is a very brief synopsis.
A few weeks ago I discovered some gay porn images that dh had printed off the internet. I was obviously concerned as I thought it might mean he was questioning his sexuality, but (thanks to mn!) got my head around this and began to view it as something potentially exciting as a way of spicing up our sex life. However despite trying to talk to dh about what he wanted in the bedroom dept. got nowhere.
A few weeks later I discovered more pictures and a pack of condoms with some missing from the pack. Obviously I thought he had taken this 'fantasy' a step further and was cheating on me - with either a man or a woman.
Well I confronted him last night, and I can tell you it was the most difficult thing I have ever done. I was shaking, heart pounding etc etc. However I did it and managed to remain calm. He went as white as a sheet and denied that he was sleeping with someone else. He basically said he was bored with our sex life as we usually do oral sex (cos he doesn't like condoms LOL - I have just gone on the mini-pill ironically to try and improve things) and used the condoms when he was masturbating. He kept on denying there was anyone else, and I kept saying 'how can I believe you with the evidence' to which he just kept saying 'well it's the truth so it's up to you whether you believe it or not'. I said if he was honest with me I was prepared to try and sort our relationship out, but unless he was totally honest there wasn't much point. He said he didn't want to leave me or the dcs or our house and I said 'well the next move's up to you'. Basically he then went to bed. He didn't put his arms round me or anything to re-assure, just got defensive and kept denying it.
This morning he re-iterated that he wasn't sleeping with anyone else and reminded me that he had got suspicious when I started wearing thongs and waxing my bikini line. (FWIW I did this cos I lost a lot of weight and started to feel good about my body and wanted to feel sexy too). I said 'yeah but I never hid those things from you'. He then said he's just been feeling really bad about himself and I said if that was the case he was suppose to talk about things with me, not hide them. We couldn't really talk much this morning as the dcs were around.
So basically where do we go from here? Has anyone ever heared of a man masturbating using condoms????? Sounds dodgy to me I have to say although I want to believe him.
There seems to be three possibilities:
1 That he was telling the truth, in which case why hide things from me, and why buy more condoms when there's plenty at home?
2 That he is questionning his sexuality, but again surely that's something he ought to tell me about?
3 That he has been cheating (don't know much about body language but if he was embarassed about the porn or w&nking surely he'd have gone red not white? Going white is a sign of guilt isn't it?)
Whichever is the case he has been keeping things from me, being deceiptful(sp?), and there is no communication, all of which I think speak volumes for how he regards both me and our marriage.
The trust has gone and it will take a long time to build back up, if it does at all.
So what do Mnetters think - is he cheating or not?
Gosh that was long - apologies and well done for getting this far!

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MellowMonsta · 13/10/2006 13:40

peter you sound vile.

FioFio · 13/10/2006 13:41

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MellowMonsta · 13/10/2006 13:42

peter - did you read that this man is married? So you think it is still fine to download gay men in porn etc. No wonder you still have to pay for it peter. No RL women would want to be with you with an attitude like thank. Read Freuds Theory - You are It.

hopefullyhelpful · 13/10/2006 13:42

Fio - Don't do it!! It might turn him on.

lulumama · 13/10/2006 13:43

a 'whore' is a 'civilian'

someone's wife . sister . mother. daughter

your language and obvious contempt for women is very distasteful and i believe you are getting cheap thrills from this vile point scoring. why are you on Mumsnet? run out of credit on internet porn sites?

am not anti prostitution , porn etc..

but the OP wanted some advice, not to be told she is ruining her husbands life by wanting him to be faithful.

nellie245 · 13/10/2006 13:44

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MadameMorticiaMills · 13/10/2006 13:44

By LieselVonTrapp on Thursday, 21 September, 2006 2:53:48 PM

Funnily enough when this whole thing kicked off last month with she who shall not be mentioned, I saw an item from a journalist saying that he was going to go on MN as an alias and write a bizarre story to see how thick we all were. I was thinking I'll look out for the alien abduction thread then but maybe this is said story.'

Or maybe this is?

lulumama · 13/10/2006 13:45

{hmm]

frumpygrumpy · 13/10/2006 13:49

Hey Pete, wana come to the xmas meet up?

MellowMonsta · 13/10/2006 13:49

Hmm Hmm Hmm Hmm

lulumama · 13/10/2006 13:52

trip trap ....

hopefullyhelpful · 13/10/2006 13:53

Thanks Madame.

Surely, no one actually believes what peter says about himself.

Chestnut - I don't suppose this is actually helping you or me, is it?

It amazes me how men get down on their knees, ask us to marry them, say they want to grow old with us and for us to have their children, then a few years and dcs later, they change their minds and instead of being honest they lie which only makes their lives more difficult.

PeterNorthFacial · 13/10/2006 13:56

What I find bizarre about all this is that absolutely nowhere in this is there even a scrap of sympathy for the guy and what he is going through.

I imagine that being married with kids and finding out that you are gay - if that is what is going on - would be an emotionally shattering experience. He stands to lose everything if he comes out or to live in misery otherwise. And meanwhile the reaction he gets from wifey is "Me, me, me, me, me. And by the way what about me?"

Shameful. You think this guy is having a good time here? Maybe whatever is going on is his way of trying to deal and somehow keep his life.

I feel desperately sorry for the guy.

nogoes · 13/10/2006 13:56

Peter - I bet you are a crap shag anyway.

lulumama · 13/10/2006 13:59

if he is gay - needs to be upfront! people are going to get hurt either way, whether he lies or tells the truth , so tell the truth !

i still take issue with your vitriolic contempt for women and question why you are posting ( for the first time i am guessing? on a (mostly) female support forum with such contemptible views...

saggarmakersbottomknocker · 13/10/2006 14:00

Peter is either a real piece of work or he's having a w*nk whilst typing and really enjoying himself. Probably both.

AOC - sorry that you're going through all this.

MellowMonsta · 13/10/2006 14:00

What is to feel sorry for (sorry OP small hijack)

Peter go start another thread and I will come argue with you. You are ruining this one and it is not fair. You sound like a lonely piece of shit and dont smell much better. Anyway..... come one start another I got until 7pm to go till dh in and kids are away I will argue with you.

overdraft · 13/10/2006 14:00

He didn't come on here though Peter his wife did. I think it is very sad when gay men have to live a lie too.I would support someone 100% if they came on here. We don't know whether that is the case. I think that if he was anoldchestnut would be supportive too. It is the not knowing that is the killer and if he is gay she does have a right to know and then they can work something out

hopefullyhelpful · 13/10/2006 14:01

Ladies - My story is definitely real. I posted as PPP3 in March about moving on after founding out.

MellowMonsta · 13/10/2006 14:01

good post overdraft. I MUST stop getting so

cece · 13/10/2006 14:02

peternorthfacial

why have you named yourself after a website?

MellowMonsta · 13/10/2006 14:02

its not you hopeful. Its Peter

TitianRed · 13/10/2006 14:05

Peter - why are you on Mumsnet? I can't believe you have found a woman who puts up with you. I feel sorry for her. Thank the Lord for decent men. Just reading what you have posted makes my flesh crawl and has been of no help to the lady who posted initially. If you are not going to be supportive and offer some helpful comments, I suggest you just lurk and keep your ideas to yourself.

lulumama · 13/10/2006 14:07

i still take issue with your vitriolic contempt for women and question why you are posting ( for the first time i am guessing? on a (mostly) female support forum with such contemptible views...

troll ...or i it me ?

cece · 13/10/2006 14:08

With a name like that I think so