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Another 'My Mum' thread. I've reached the end of my tether, I think. (Another long one)

110 replies

NomDePlume · 03/10/2006 11:03

Basically, up to now I've kept my relatively strained relationship with my Mum off MN. But the fact is that I need to talk about it to someone, I should prob have changed my name but there you go. Whenever I talk to DH about it he just sits, listens and refuses to say anything negative (which is fair enough, I suppose), but sometimes I really need to hear that he is on my side.

Condensed background - My parents separated when I was 6 years old. My father was a violent alcoholic gambler (with an utterly charming, handsome and likeable facade). My mother was entirely controlled by him. Lots of things were witnessed and experienced by me that no child should ever have to go through. When they separated, they asked me who I wanted to live with, I was 6 years old and sat inbetween them being asked to choose. My father was crying and my Mum wasn't, so my 6yr old brain chose the one who looked most upset .

I went to live with my father. I still saw my Mum every other weekend and used to cry when she brought me back to my father's house, he used to 'phone her and ask her why I was so miserable after spending time with her (I wasn't miserable about going there, I was miserable and terrified at having to come back). My father got together with a woman a few years older than him and he continued to dole out the same violent behaviour. She took it out on me. I once forgot my Brownie uniform (I must've been about 7) and she held me by the throat up against the living room wall, she actually lifted my feet off the ground and was screaming with rage into my face. This is/was a 40+ year old woman.

I eventually begged to go and live with my Mum at 11 because I couldn't handle it anymore. I moved in and life was ok from then on. I never saw my father again (my choice entirely). My Mum was the 'cool' Mum that all my teenage mates wanted, she would let me out 'til all hours and was fairly relaxed with anything and everything I wanted to do as a teenager. Quite detached, not very maternal, although I always knew she loved me.

I moved 100 miles away from my Mum just a few months before my 17th birthday and was v happy. I was still relatively glad of the detached parenting style she employed.

I eventually moved areas again and settled down with my now DH. We had only been together a few months when I moved in with him, and shortly after I was pg (planned). My Mum didn't take well to the news of my pg and completely shut down. She would 'phone and ask about everyone and everything bar the pregnancy. When DD was born my Mum was very happy and fell in love with DD. Although 'phone calls never included "how's DD?". Which really, really hurt.

It really seems to me that it is a total case of 'out of sight, out of mind' for my mother. When we are there at her house, or she is here, she is so involved and wants to be a part of it, but when we are apart it's like we don't even occur to her. She didn't 'phone to ask how DD's first day of school went, despite her knowing the date (I'd told her about 3 times). Nor did she 'phone to find out how my first day college had gone. I could go on forever, but tech wouldn't thank me !

I have to 'phone her all the time. I'm sick of chasing her, practically forcing her to take an interest in her grand-daughter's life, our lives. But the problem is that I feel trapped by it. My Mum is DD's only living grandparent, DD adores her (mainly because she is 4 and is protected from the vague nature of her grandmother). I can't afford for DD to lose her, but I can't spend the next 20 years+ begging my mother to be a part of our lives.

I've talked to my Mum about it countless times but she just denies everything and cries, leaving me feeling fucking awful and unjustified. I don't know what to do, but I know I can't go on like this.

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NomDePlume · 04/10/2006 09:18

Thanks so much to you all for these posts. They've really helped me get a few things straight in my head.

I did talk to DH about counselling and his initial reaction was 'it's sorted now'. I told him that actually, even if my Mum does turn it around in the next week or so, I think this was a bit of a catalyst. I've dealt with things alone for a long time (by alone, I mean without a helping hand from a professional) and now I'm not so sure that I have been dealing with it, not properly anyway. Surely if I was dealing with it then it wouldn't keep coming back to bite me every few months ? I think I have just been burying it. I said to DH that I talk about it, I'm not one of those people that bottles it all up, but he said that actually I don't talk about it. So maybe I haven't been as open as I perhaps thought I was ?

DH agreed that it was best to deal with these issues asap, rather than leaving them to fester and running the risk of something big (breakdown?) happening in 5, 10, 15 years time. He is frightened they will put me on pills though. I have told him that I'm not going to speak to the doctor about anti-d's or anything drug-related as I do not have depression. I'm going to try a talking therapy, I need to learn better coping strategies.

Dior - It was hard to tell her the truth, especially as I know she doesn't do it on purpose, and the fact that she was on her own in the house (her DP works away and is only home every other weekend). I didn't want to put the phone down on her and leave her upset with no-one to give her a hug (sounds a bit lame, I know).

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CheesyFeetcomingtoGETyou · 04/10/2006 10:06

Counselling sounds like a great idea. Have you found even talking on here has helped rather than keeping it buried? Often I write long ranty OP's when I'm pissed off and just the act of writing everything down helps enormously.

I wouldn't have thought that the first reaction would be to put you on AD's - you need to talk about what happened and talking to someone you don't know sometimes seems easier (that's why mn works so well I suppose!). Counsellors are armed with a number of coping strategies that can make things easier to cope with.

I'm sure that I don't have to tell you that waiting lists can be long, although in my experience I've never had to wait longer than about three or four weeks.

Good luck, sounds like you and your mum have taken those all important first steps to sorting things out. The first steps are always the hardest, it gets easier from here on in.

Have a cheesy hug x

Bozza · 04/10/2006 10:14

ndp that sounds quite positive and understanding from your DH. I guess that he brings his own background (ie problems with first wife) to this. But you were right about keeping everything out in the open. Interesting insight that you think you talk about it and he thinks you don't though.

frumpygrumpy · 04/10/2006 13:20

Well done, what a day you had!!

NOMurDErousPLUME · 05/10/2006 10:51

Bozza, absolutely, we've both brought baggage to our relationship. Don't all adults ?

Cheesy, I talk about it in RL (or I think I do). Most of my friends know that I had an iffy start, and know the general gist of what went on, but I can't say I've ever sat down and told any one person everything. Mainly because a) They've never asked, b) It would take an age, and c) It seems a bit 'odd' to go through it from day one unless the other person genuinely wants to know (for any other reason than morbid curiosity). DH has never sat me down and asked for any information, any bits and bobs have been volunteered by me, but he does know the gist of it but not all of the actual events, IYSWIM.

DH

NOMurDErousPLUME · 05/10/2006 10:51

(ignore random 'DH' )

NOMurDErousPLUME · 05/10/2006 11:38

She has just phoned. We were on for 40 minutes . Good start, I think.

CheesyFeetcomingtoGETyou · 05/10/2006 12:05

That's the beauty of a counsellor, you can sit down and go through it all, start to finish, and discuss your feelings honestly without worrying about burdening or boring your friends and without thinking their interest is purely morbid curiosity.

So glad she has rung this morning

wartywarthog · 05/10/2006 12:40

glad she phoned.

frumpygrumpy · 05/10/2006 14:24

Yeah! Might be the one and only call...but she does care. Glad for you xx.

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