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Useless DP - help me get some perspective please? (SORRY - VERY LONG)

109 replies

allofthelights · 25/09/2014 19:22

I've been with DP for three years and we have an almost two year old. We met, fell in love/lust, and had a baby very quickly (at his suggestion - I sort of got carried away, I hadn't ever really wanted kids, although I obviously adore my child now).

When we met, he was on the dole - he works for a small company in the construction sector and when they run out of work, they close down the company and everyone goes on the dole for a few months, then things pick back up again. We're in a Mediterranean country and this is relatively normal behaviour, although very shitty.

The thing is, he has never once contributed. I had gone freelance about a year before we met and managed to build up an extremely successful business. As a result, when we first met I earned about four times what he was bringing in, so I didn't mind much that he never offered to pay for things, seeing as I had so much more free cash than him.

It's been like this ever since. All the bills have always gone out of my account directly. It's not as if they are excessive - we live in a normal bog standard flat in a normal place, and what he earns would actually cover about half of our expenses. But he has never given me any money towards bills, and even when I've asked, he's given some money but then the next month not offered, and I felt awkward constantly asking him - I feel as if he should just pony up - who wants to live for free?

I bought every single thing for our son, from cot to buggy to muslins, everything. I burnt through the majority of my savings that I'd built up through my business. He didn't buy anything.

Anyway, about a year ago I suggested we got a joint account so that his earnings (a living wage, albeit quite a bit less than what I earnt) would at least go towards our joint expenses rather than me not seeing even a cent from him each month. So far, so good, although his work situation continued to fluctuate. Since the end of July he has not been in work. I have also realised after some totting up that he is owed a few hundred euros for his final week of employment, and he hasn't been paid it. He's had a few cash-in-hand jobs through the same people, inbetween construction contracts, and is also still waiting for the money. Today, he went for a social visit to the people he works with (the line is very blurred between work and friends), to find out when the new construction contract would be. Apparently, they said it may be in the next couple of weeks, but there's a couple of days of cash-in-hand work next week. Oh, and the money they owe him, they're waiting on being paid by a supplier.

He recounted this to me all very blasé; it doesn't bother him at all. He is now without any income whatsoever as his dole pay ran out in August, and probably won't get another pay packet until November. Which doesn't seem to mean anything to him, because the bank account has money in it so he's alright. Meanwhile, they owe him hundreds and he's not pushing them for it and is in fact all ready to go and do more work for them next week, essentially for free, rather than doing something fucking constructive.

He has been lazing around the house since the beginning of August. Meanwhile, I have been working around the clock to try and build some savings back up. I am incandescent with rage at him over this current situation because I don't have the luxury he has of just deciding not to bother looking for work or just doing bits and bobs because my baby would starve. He hasn't bothered to look for alternative work and doesn't seem to care.

He is a good dad to our baby emotionally - by which I mean he loves him, cares for him, plays with him. But when it comes to providing for him or being a good adult role model, he's shit. I also feel trapped - I don't want to financially support another adult - he's perfectly capable of working but appears to have thrown in the towel as due to the financial crisis his sector did take a beating, but despite that there is work, he just needs to get off his arse and stop working for these "mates"!

I am sick of this. I feel used. I feel like I made a terrible mistake getting together with and having a baby with a man who to be fair I barely knew, and now that his true, lazy colours are coming out, I want out, but I'm terrified of the negative effect this could have on my baby. I also worry for DP as he has no money! I know this isn't AIBU, but am I being totally unreasonable?

OP posts:
RandomMess · 26/09/2014 20:52

You are doing the right thing, you are still giving him the option to step up and be a partner and a father - it is totally his choice if he doesn't!!!

PuppyMouse · 26/09/2014 22:06

You sound awesome and terribly dynamic OP. Hope he slopes off tomorrow and let's you get on with your life!

kaykayblue · 26/09/2014 22:13

Well done OP.

Try not to worry about him - he is a pathetic mess, but NOT your responsibility!

Try and take a few weeks - MONTHS even - to just enjoy having one less thing to worry about, and take some time to chillax.

Try to avoid talking to him as much as possible so he can't start guilt tripping you. Oh and visiting the child? Not in your home. He needs to understand that it's not "his" space anymore.

SolidGoldBrass · 26/09/2014 22:17

Do make sure that he can't drain your bank account. Also, supervise his departure and change the locks immediately. A man this selfish, entitled and conscience-free might well decide to steal all the valuables from your home on the grounds that he is penniless and suddenly homeless (which he won't be for long, if at all).

GoodtoBetter · 26/09/2014 22:38

OP, I live in a Mediterranean country which has massive unemployment. My DH has had no work for about 3 years no and his dole has long since run out. I work and we have some savings. As DH doesn't work he does:

all childcare needed for DCs 6 and 3 and helping with homework, packed lunches etc
all the shopping
all the cooking
all the cleaning
all DIY/small jobs
We meal plan together, although he often researches and chooses new recipes
I mostly do the laundry as I like doing it but will often ask him to hang stuff out/get it in or do ironing
He walks the dog and does any vets appointments, etc
He applies for jobs online and has got into a job pool with the council for street sweepers and should get 6 months work doing that from Jan.
In short, he contributes in anyway he can.

Getafuckingjob · 27/09/2014 17:08

I am also in the Med. My DH has not worked properly for nearly 4 years and it is wearing very thin.

Partly it is not his fault, he was made redundant and has found it hard to find another full time job. It has been bits and bobs of cash in hand here and there for all this time.

So he is not paying into the local system so can't claim unemployment. He works in a niche area and has excellent qualifications and skills in his profession but will not consider doing anything else. Most of the jobs in this area go by word of mouth and he just keeps missing out. He does have a small income from a pension which fortunately pays our rent but everything else is down to me.

During this time I have been out of work myself twice, for two weeks and six weeks respectively. The nagging and moaning I got was shocking. I also used to have a cleaner because he wasn't pulling his weight at home.

We do manage, just. But we have very poor quality of life, live very frugally and at times before I landed my current job, often went hungry because we did not have any money for food. All this does not seem to register with him and I carry the burden and worry alone.

Sorry to hijack your thread OP, just needed to rant a bit.

Getafuckingjob · 28/09/2014 14:16

Sorry lights, I killed your thread. Sad

hellsbellsmelons · 29/09/2014 09:18

Hi OP
I hope your weekend has been OK.
Did he move out?
How are you feeling about everything?

eddielizzard · 29/09/2014 13:11

this relationship is absolutely dead. no respect = no love. not really, not enough to last a lifetime and bring up a child.

i really hope he has gone.

i used to be in a relationship with someone a bit like this. he would drift. no future plans. no ambition. just take life as it comes. it's fine if you don't have any dreams, but if you want to get the most out of life it's a really shit basis for a relationship.

you are amazing. capable, a coper, ambitious, fantastic parent. i think you will be absolutely fine without this albatross round your neck.

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