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what the hell am i supposed to think? is he gay? is he lying to me?so confused.very long!

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imnotamouse · 26/09/2006 14:16

my hubbie works away alot and i've always been a little suspicious but he's always managed to make me feel secure and told me that he loves me.however,i started to feel there was something going on a couple of months ago and got more and more suspicious to a point where i actually attacked him...i know,i know it's disgusting and i felt really bad about it (scratched face and made him bleed etc.)we have had fights before but i noticed this time he didn't retaliate (this was alcohol fuelled aswell by the way). anyway, he went away last week and although we spoke on the phone i still didn't feel comfortable about him being away from home.(this is a man i've been married to for nearly 12 years and have been going out with for 18 years and who has worked away all through our relationship.even worked abroad for months on end sometimes).when he went to bed early without even asking if i wanted to join him (i knew he had a long journey the following morning so him going to bed early is not all that unusual)I looked into his mobile phone....never felt the need before but couldn't help myself. i came across video clips of women giving men blow-jobs etc.which to be honest didn't really bother me. i know that there are alot of things that many of us like to look at so just thought it was normal. however,when i came across his texts...from the previous night i couldn't believe what i was reading. they were suggestive texts from my hubbie in the context of looking forward to seeing this person "next monday" for "playtime" and other stuff which i don't want to type!without thinking,i ran upstairs with the phone in my hand and started screaming at my hubbie who was a little befuddled at that point.when he realised what i'd seen he tried to grab the phone off me which is when i found out the date of the texts and who they were for.he still tried to deny that they were recent put i had the proof infront of me and he had to back down.the most shocking part of all this for me though is that my apparently "homophobic" hubbie has been texting a BLOKE! he's my 3 kids'godfather....!this is a man who is about 10 years older than my husband and who my hubbie has always told me he "hates"-even though this man has found him all sorts of great jobs in the past and bailed him out with debt before now too. there is just so much past history that i really can't go and type everything in but to cut a long story short,my hubbie says it was just something to do when he was bored.i told him that he knew i wasn't a prude and why the hell couldn't he have had "textsex" with me!!!i'm the one after all who lies in bed lonely when he's away.he tells me he's not gay and that he's been stupid and that he's sorry. but i can't help thinking he's only sorry that he's been caught. apparently,he started it when he was "depressed"...about 4 years ago....? and that there had never been anything physical.anyway,i got hold of his laptop the other night and found a picture of my husband's willy there.it had been taken on a night in july when i know my hubbie was away and it was amongst all his family photos! when quizzed about this,he said he "couldn't send it anyway".not for the lack of trying obviously.(one of the texts the other night had said "you will c it on monday" which kind of makes sense now! i've told him i love him still and he's told me the same and we've tried so hard to be friends but i keep seeing this man's face laughing at me and i want to kill him.i'm so totally confused. i even wondered if this man's name was a cover for a woman on his mobile but again i can't uncover much now as i know my hubbie knows i'm onto him. am i a mug?

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imnotamouse · 04/10/2006 14:00

i suggested a std test the other night.
he rolled his eyes and said he hadn't had any physical contact with this man.
i texted this man again last night as hubbie working away.asked for a further explanation of the texts the other night when he thought my dh preferred men to women these days.
said he's still in hospital and can't ring me!

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sarahinphuket · 04/10/2006 14:06

i'mnotamouse

Personally I think this other guy sounds like he is lying. Can you borrow someone else's mobile and ring him from a number that he is not going to recognise? Then he might answer it - and you will know whether or not he is trying to avoid you.

just a thought...

imnotamouse · 04/10/2006 14:15

Hi,Sarahinphuket.
I did actually do this last week.
Not sure whether you've read full thread,but I did actually ring from Hubbie's phone last week and-although i'd tried all day on my own phones-he answered straight away! I'm pretty sure he's lying too!
I am however going to hound this man until he succumbs and at least has the courtesy to give me some sort of explanation-albeit something that both have worked out together-after all,he is my kids'godfather!

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sarahinphuket · 04/10/2006 14:46

INAM
hmmm

How about if you borrow someone else's mobile (ie not hubby's) and then when he answers he clearly can't use the hospital excuse. He might hang up on you, but then at least you definitely know he has something he doesn't want to divulge.

DOn't know what else to suggest. How far away from you does this bloke live? Maybe the three of you need to get together, sit down and thrash it out.

imnotamouse · 04/10/2006 14:52

he lives in s.ireland
we live in n.west (uk)
thing is,both of them can easily meet up as both of them work in all major cities eg:london;birminghm;manchester etc.
i mean for instance,when he though it was my dh texting him the other night,he was very quick to offer to "come over or shall i stay away?".
I should have made arrangements there and then and just turned up myself...however,didn't think at the time.
don't know if i can face him anyway.
i am too afraid of the truth but on the other hand i really do need to know so that i can work it out in my own head.

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imnotamouse · 05/10/2006 12:32

i've decided to give things a go as best we can.it's going to be difficult...especially getting "close" IYKWIM? However,I realize I can't live without him. The kids need him. He SAYS he loves me. Don't suppose I'll really ever know. But, I'm going to follow my heart and hope for the best. Just hope it doesn't come back and bite me in the a**e in the future!

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imnotamouse · 11/10/2006 12:36

well,it's been 3 weeks since all this started.
on Friday, dh walked out and didn't come back until the following morning.
i cried,he cried,kids cried.
eventually,i realized that i can't live without him.
i know i sound pathetic but i've decided that i want him here with me.
i'm not doing it for "the kids'sake".
I'm doing it cos I think-hope-we've got a future together.
he says he wants to be with me.
so,that's got to be how we base our lives:work on the future.
couldn't believe what i heard this morning on "the wright stuff" though...some bloke rang up describing himself as "a big hunky bloke" who's had sex with hundreds of "straight married guys".is this some sort of new phenomenon or has it always happened?

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imnotamouse · 11/10/2006 12:52

anyone talking to me?
really seems as though everyone's been warned off me...i swear i'm not a troll. honestly!

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lazymummy · 11/10/2006 13:22

sorry - he walked out on Friday and didn't come back till the morning? And that's OK? Where did he go? Who was he with? If my dh did that I would demand to know where he had been all night. It seems to me that your dh just does what he wants and doesn't feel like he owes you any explanations. That's not fair or right. Demand some answers, be the mouse that roared. THis guy in Ireland sounds like a shithead, but I really think that instead of pratting around pretending to be your husband via text message you should have been direct and honest with your questioning. It certainly seems like they are pulling the wool over your eyes so don't join in with their deceptive game playing, be upfront, straightforward and for your sake and the sake of your kids demand some answers. Don't let it go. I don't think that you can move on together with this uncertainty hanging over you. I hope I'm wrong but it's obviously seriously bothering you.

imnotamouse · 11/10/2006 13:29

hi,lazymummy.
yes,you're right. it is seriously bothering me.
i am,however,trying to put it into perspective...yes,yes i know that's a bit odd.it's the only way i know of coping with it.
after all, i don't want him to go. i realized that when he went.(apparently,he walked along the beach to the next town-about an hour-and back again...!?.even though i presumed he'd gone to an all night bar!he reckons he slept for about an hour in our garage...although i didn't hear anything!).
but,yes,deep down it's still there and i suppose it always will be.
just trying to live with it.

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lemonstartree · 11/10/2006 13:36

sorry but WHY dont you want him to go? This guy is walking all over you, he treats you with NO respect and yet you want him to stay ???????

In whatever way you look at it he is lying to you, he may be having gay sex with a man you both know; and you want him to stay????

Yeah, want your relationship to work out - but that take honesty and courage and committment and respect on BOTH sides and I dont see it from him at all.

sorry thats tough

If people are not replying I think its because they dont know what to say in the face of such low self esteem that you basically dont care what he does or who with as long as he stays with you..................

wake up and smell the coffee, take charge of your own life; demand some answers or kick him out and mean it...........

anoldchestnut · 11/10/2006 13:38

I don't know if you've followed my thread mouse but similar(ish) situation which I won't repeat again.

You're obviously determined to work at things though, and every respect to you for that. I'm prepared to do the same, but only if my dh wants to, if he doesn't then that's the end of us and the way I feel at the moment that'll be the right decision.

Counselling has been suggested for me, and it's something I think could help. I would suggest that you suggest this to your dh. I'm guessing that like most men he would hate the idea and feel very uncomfortable with it, but at least if he did agree it wuold show you how committed he is to your relationship, and would probably help you both open up and explain why he did what he did and help him understand how it made you feel.

Good luck

nellie245 · 11/10/2006 13:47

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catsmother · 11/10/2006 15:24

In answer to your question about "The Wright Stuff", I think there have always been men who get married either knowing, or suspecting, they're gay, but who are, for whatever reason, unable to come to terms with this and believe that getting married & doing the "traditional" thing will somehow "cure" them.

Married men who cannot come to terms with their true sexuality will be living a lie though. It's not uncommon to read of women eventually being left for another man.

Hence gay men boasting of having sex with married men. I've read about it elsewhere fairly often.

Some gay men get married not in the hope they will be cured, but cynically, because they believe their job and status would be affected were they not seen as "straight". I know it's comedy but think of that sketch in "Little Britain" where the MP is always explaining being caught in a compromising position whilst his long-suffering wife is behind him smiling grimly.

lazymummy · 15/10/2006 09:59

imnotamouse - I saw this in the paper yesterday. \link{http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,1920520,00.html}

I hope you don't mind me posting it. I don't know if your husband is gay, bi, straight or whatever but as there is currently some question about this I thought the organisation mentioned in the item above might help shed some light on the situation.

Judy1234 · 15/10/2006 14:08

He might be bisexual, not gay. Lots of people are mixtures of things.
I don't think the burying head in sand thing is always wrong. People live with compromises for years but not everyone feels able to.
If you think you could tolerate it all being a bit more open may be you could live with an understanding with him that he will see this other person when he needs to either on the basis he tells you or it's tacitly assumed and he doesn't throw it in your face. I couldn't live with that, though. You could hire someone to follow him, do checks yourself etc if you really want to know what's going on and he won't talk to you about it.

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