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what the hell am i supposed to think? is he gay? is he lying to me?so confused.very long!

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imnotamouse · 26/09/2006 14:16

my hubbie works away alot and i've always been a little suspicious but he's always managed to make me feel secure and told me that he loves me.however,i started to feel there was something going on a couple of months ago and got more and more suspicious to a point where i actually attacked him...i know,i know it's disgusting and i felt really bad about it (scratched face and made him bleed etc.)we have had fights before but i noticed this time he didn't retaliate (this was alcohol fuelled aswell by the way). anyway, he went away last week and although we spoke on the phone i still didn't feel comfortable about him being away from home.(this is a man i've been married to for nearly 12 years and have been going out with for 18 years and who has worked away all through our relationship.even worked abroad for months on end sometimes).when he went to bed early without even asking if i wanted to join him (i knew he had a long journey the following morning so him going to bed early is not all that unusual)I looked into his mobile phone....never felt the need before but couldn't help myself. i came across video clips of women giving men blow-jobs etc.which to be honest didn't really bother me. i know that there are alot of things that many of us like to look at so just thought it was normal. however,when i came across his texts...from the previous night i couldn't believe what i was reading. they were suggestive texts from my hubbie in the context of looking forward to seeing this person "next monday" for "playtime" and other stuff which i don't want to type!without thinking,i ran upstairs with the phone in my hand and started screaming at my hubbie who was a little befuddled at that point.when he realised what i'd seen he tried to grab the phone off me which is when i found out the date of the texts and who they were for.he still tried to deny that they were recent put i had the proof infront of me and he had to back down.the most shocking part of all this for me though is that my apparently "homophobic" hubbie has been texting a BLOKE! he's my 3 kids'godfather....!this is a man who is about 10 years older than my husband and who my hubbie has always told me he "hates"-even though this man has found him all sorts of great jobs in the past and bailed him out with debt before now too. there is just so much past history that i really can't go and type everything in but to cut a long story short,my hubbie says it was just something to do when he was bored.i told him that he knew i wasn't a prude and why the hell couldn't he have had "textsex" with me!!!i'm the one after all who lies in bed lonely when he's away.he tells me he's not gay and that he's been stupid and that he's sorry. but i can't help thinking he's only sorry that he's been caught. apparently,he started it when he was "depressed"...about 4 years ago....? and that there had never been anything physical.anyway,i got hold of his laptop the other night and found a picture of my husband's willy there.it had been taken on a night in july when i know my hubbie was away and it was amongst all his family photos! when quizzed about this,he said he "couldn't send it anyway".not for the lack of trying obviously.(one of the texts the other night had said "you will c it on monday" which kind of makes sense now! i've told him i love him still and he's told me the same and we've tried so hard to be friends but i keep seeing this man's face laughing at me and i want to kill him.i'm so totally confused. i even wondered if this man's name was a cover for a woman on his mobile but again i can't uncover much now as i know my hubbie knows i'm onto him. am i a mug?

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bluejelly · 26/09/2006 16:17

He could be bisexual, it's fairly common.
How hard for you both though.
Good luck-- I think relate is a great idea

SecondhandRose · 26/09/2006 16:21

Are you new to Mumsnet today?

Mascaraohara · 26/09/2006 16:26

I'd put money on the fact that the godfathers name is a cover for a woman. If he's your kids godfather and you have an adress book with his number in I would check them to see if they're the same.

'playtime' is not a term you use when you're meeting someoone for the first time to have sex either.

Doesn't add up at all.

fwiw I know men who keep other womens names under a male friends name.

Mascaraohara · 26/09/2006 16:27

Oh badkarma posted whilst I was reading and typing... I could've just writteen ditto badkarma.

JessaJam · 26/09/2006 16:28

and again ...

Twohoots · 26/09/2006 16:37

imnnotamouse how awful for you! I agree that you should ring the no and see who answers or cross ref with the no you have for this man.

It all seems v odd and to be have been going on for 4 years - even if it is just harmless - which it doesn't seem, then it's a bloody long time to be having phone dialogues etc!

Sometimes you think you know someone so well and they turn out to be such a different person. It's sad isn't it.

I think I'd give him an ultimatum and say you need to do counselling together to try and make this work - if you want to.

Also, If you have the balls (excuse the pun!) why don't you confront this man - you will have his contact details.

heavenis · 26/09/2006 16:41

JessaJam I'll peer too.

kimi · 26/09/2006 17:29

can you speak to the other man?
Ask him what the hell is going on?

SecondhandRose · 26/09/2006 19:29

Mmmm peering too

imnotamouse · 27/09/2006 11:21

well,had already done just about everything that everyone's suggested here to be honest.
i've calmly asked questions like: when did it start? why? how come-if he is such a homophobic-he wasn't shy in coming forward with this particular man? was it some sort of kinky dominance thing?(ie:was it a comfort to him to have someone to open up to etc?).has he just gone off me and too scared to upset me?was there anything physical with him ever? is this man's name a cover for a woman on his mobile? (this man has always had a thing about collecting phones and must own loads and loads of mobiles so i'm not going to get very far with that one plus he's always changing his numbers).why couldn't you have done it with me? ETC. so many questions that i can't list them all.
as far as my hubbie's concerned,he's told me everything. he says he's never had sex with anyone but me since we've met.i asked him if it was still going to carry on if i hadn't caught him.he said "there was nothing ever going on as such.it was just a fantasy".however,he says he wasn't fantasizing about this bloke.it was just a "release"...!
anyway,last night i told him he had to dial this man's no.on our speaker phone and i wanted him to tell him that i had found out and that i wanted some answers. he was very edgy when i dialled the number that i had written down on the night i discovered all this.but,fortunately for him,it was someone else's answer phone! this bloke lives in southern ireland so it took a while to get the correct code (as my hubbie has deleted all this man's numbers out of his mobile).I'm even more confused now.I took one number out of the irish code (which tallies with the number i found in his laptop) and got an asian voice (woman's!) on an answer phone! plot thickens!
after him shouting at me and eventually running out of the house (cos think if he hadn't things could've turned ugly),he went speeding into town like a madman!!!came back,asked me for a cuddle and burst into tears.(said he'd thrown up while he'd been out).don't know how far to go with this.it's making us both ill.

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imnotamouse · 27/09/2006 11:21

well,had already done just about everything that everyone's suggested here to be honest.
i've calmly asked questions like: when did it start? why? how come-if he is such a homophobic-he wasn't shy in coming forward with this particular man? was it some sort of kinky dominance thing?(ie:was it a comfort to him to have someone to open up to etc?).has he just gone off me and too scared to upset me?was there anything physical with him ever? is this man's name a cover for a woman on his mobile? (this man has always had a thing about collecting phones and must own loads and loads of mobiles so i'm not going to get very far with that one plus he's always changing his numbers).why couldn't you have done it with me? ETC. so many questions that i can't list them all.
as far as my hubbie's concerned,he's told me everything. he says he's never had sex with anyone but me since we've met.i asked him if it was still going to carry on if i hadn't caught him.he said "there was nothing ever going on as such.it was just a fantasy".however,he says he wasn't fantasizing about this bloke.it was just a "release"...!
anyway,last night i told him he had to dial this man's no.on our speaker phone and i wanted him to tell him that i had found out and that i wanted some answers. he was very edgy when i dialled the number that i had written down on the night i discovered all this.but,fortunately for him,it was someone else's answer phone! this bloke lives in southern ireland so it took a while to get the correct code (as my hubbie has deleted all this man's numbers out of his mobile).I'm even more confused now.I took one number out of the irish code (which tallies with the number i found in his laptop) and got an asian voice (woman's!) on an answer phone! plot thickens!
after him shouting at me and eventually running out of the house (cos think if he hadn't things could've turned ugly),he went speeding into town like a madman!!!came back,asked me for a cuddle and burst into tears.(said he'd thrown up while he'd been out).don't know how far to go with this.it's making us both ill.

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Mascaraohara · 27/09/2006 11:23

So he's been having an affair with an asian woman.. using the godfathers name as a cover - makes sense.

imnotamouse · 27/09/2006 11:23

sorry!posted twice by mistake!

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heavenis · 27/09/2006 11:24
Hmm
imnotamouse · 27/09/2006 11:29

god knows!i just don't know what the hell to think anymore.he's so positive he wants me to let him stay.he says he loves me more than anything in the world (I'm sure that doesn't include the kids though!) and he wants to make everything better. he could walk away from this without looking back if he wanted to.
i've told him that he has to realize i'm a person with feelings.
i love my kids more than life itself,but i'm not just a child-minder and shirt-ironer for him!
I don't want him to go but I don't want him to stay for the wrong reasons either.
I am so scared.
If I brush this under the carpet he could go one better next time knowing full well that i'm just going to let him back in again.
I love him. I hate him. I hate myself.

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Mascaraohara · 27/09/2006 11:30

agree heavenis but no harm eh..

Mascaraohara · 27/09/2006 11:32

I'd phone the woman and say (very calmly)

"hello, you're in my husbands phone book under a male friends name, I was just wondering if you are having a relationship with x and if you are whether you knew he is married with children"

imnotamouse · 27/09/2006 11:34

heavenis is very very [sceptical][sceptical][sceptical] aren't you!!!

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imnotamouse · 27/09/2006 11:35

even!

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heavenis · 27/09/2006 11:40

Yes I am
Why didn't you just dial the number ? why make him he could have put a wrong number in. If he has nothing to hide why has he deleted the numbers from his phone. Why did he storm off come back ask for a cuddle,why was he sick when he went out. Do you want to cuddle him after what you found.

lockets · 27/09/2006 11:43

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imnotamouse · 27/09/2006 11:57

i've tried to dial the number too but got this other person's voice mail.if i'm dialling the correct number then obviously this bloke has got someone to put a message on his voice mail as he's english and the voice is an irish man!(bet that's confused everyone!)
this Asian thing i've got a feeling was a genuine dialling mistake on my part as i've dialled it again this morning and the number is not recognized.
i can't get this man's number now so i'm going to have to get my hubbie to look up this man's mother's phone number and get it from her!

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JennyLee · 27/09/2006 12:00

Yes you need to call this man and calmly ask or say that you know everything and see what comes up. as you do need to know for so many reasons. and then if you know the truth you wont feel so helpless.
I mean if they have done anything 'real' that puts your health at risk as well as everything else that comes with it

imnotamouse · 27/09/2006 12:04

Heavenis,if i were on the outside looking in,I would be exactly the same as you believe me!
However,when it's happening to you it's completely different. I've probably made my hubbie sound like a right git when in actual fact he is (or always has been) a lovely man. A man I love dearly despite what he has/hasn't done.I know that sounds pathetic,but it's true. I am the biggest sceptic in the world believe me but one thing I always do when people come to me for advice-which people seem to do alot-I try to see two sides. I try to remain unshockable-there's alot going on in this world and it's quite frightening.However,for once in my life (this is not the first time i've been let down badly by the way),I feel like my heart's been ripped out.Try to be have a bit more feeling. Please!

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heavenis · 27/09/2006 12:12

I do have feeling for people. I don't understand some of the things you have said. I will therefore leave it for others to give you help. I hope you sort things out.

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