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what the hell am i supposed to think? is he gay? is he lying to me?so confused.very long!

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imnotamouse · 26/09/2006 14:16

my hubbie works away alot and i've always been a little suspicious but he's always managed to make me feel secure and told me that he loves me.however,i started to feel there was something going on a couple of months ago and got more and more suspicious to a point where i actually attacked him...i know,i know it's disgusting and i felt really bad about it (scratched face and made him bleed etc.)we have had fights before but i noticed this time he didn't retaliate (this was alcohol fuelled aswell by the way). anyway, he went away last week and although we spoke on the phone i still didn't feel comfortable about him being away from home.(this is a man i've been married to for nearly 12 years and have been going out with for 18 years and who has worked away all through our relationship.even worked abroad for months on end sometimes).when he went to bed early without even asking if i wanted to join him (i knew he had a long journey the following morning so him going to bed early is not all that unusual)I looked into his mobile phone....never felt the need before but couldn't help myself. i came across video clips of women giving men blow-jobs etc.which to be honest didn't really bother me. i know that there are alot of things that many of us like to look at so just thought it was normal. however,when i came across his texts...from the previous night i couldn't believe what i was reading. they were suggestive texts from my hubbie in the context of looking forward to seeing this person "next monday" for "playtime" and other stuff which i don't want to type!without thinking,i ran upstairs with the phone in my hand and started screaming at my hubbie who was a little befuddled at that point.when he realised what i'd seen he tried to grab the phone off me which is when i found out the date of the texts and who they were for.he still tried to deny that they were recent put i had the proof infront of me and he had to back down.the most shocking part of all this for me though is that my apparently "homophobic" hubbie has been texting a BLOKE! he's my 3 kids'godfather....!this is a man who is about 10 years older than my husband and who my hubbie has always told me he "hates"-even though this man has found him all sorts of great jobs in the past and bailed him out with debt before now too. there is just so much past history that i really can't go and type everything in but to cut a long story short,my hubbie says it was just something to do when he was bored.i told him that he knew i wasn't a prude and why the hell couldn't he have had "textsex" with me!!!i'm the one after all who lies in bed lonely when he's away.he tells me he's not gay and that he's been stupid and that he's sorry. but i can't help thinking he's only sorry that he's been caught. apparently,he started it when he was "depressed"...about 4 years ago....? and that there had never been anything physical.anyway,i got hold of his laptop the other night and found a picture of my husband's willy there.it had been taken on a night in july when i know my hubbie was away and it was amongst all his family photos! when quizzed about this,he said he "couldn't send it anyway".not for the lack of trying obviously.(one of the texts the other night had said "you will c it on monday" which kind of makes sense now! i've told him i love him still and he's told me the same and we've tried so hard to be friends but i keep seeing this man's face laughing at me and i want to kill him.i'm so totally confused. i even wondered if this man's name was a cover for a woman on his mobile but again i can't uncover much now as i know my hubbie knows i'm onto him. am i a mug?

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mumandlovingit · 27/09/2006 23:16

ignore d=fantasy.supposed to be 'a fantasy'

please ignore some of my spelling.just wanted to respond before crashing for the night.

imnotamouse · 28/09/2006 14:29

thanks again for all of your support.
we had tears and tantrums again last night unfortunately.
my dh started shouting at the kids and then realized how much he'd hurt them;burst into tears;put them to bed and then sulked.
i told him we had to contact this man and he got all moody and drove off...again!
whilst he was out,i rang this man from dh's mobile.guess what? he answered! (recognized his voice straight away).unfortunately,i panicked and switched phone off. then i stupidly sent him a text telling him;"....knows".when dh came back i told him what i'd done.he tried to ring and,of course,he didn't answer.i made dh text this man saying "....knows everything.we need to speak to you".to which the text came back saying,"what's up?i'm in hospital.someone else answering my mobile for me." there is no way i'm going to get any clear answers on this and i really don't know where to go from here.
i know i'm a complete mug.
i think i'm scared of the truth to be honest.
don't know whether to carry on as we are for the kids' sanity. trouble is,am i just prolonging the agony? i'm terrified as to where this is going to end.
dh just said this morning,"let's try and have an easier night tonight please.we're both making ourselves ill"......!?

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JennyLee · 28/09/2006 14:36

I don't know why he does not just come and tell you the truth or if this continues you will have to go and see this man as maybe that is even where your dh drives off to and they have their story worked out. Feel bad for you, must be so stressful

FluffyOHaraOfSnugglesville · 28/09/2006 14:38

I would go and see the other man - seriously.

I think your h is being manipulative and isn't being straight with you.. personally I find it harder to know that he was keeping secrets than I would to hear horrifcly hurtful details but at least after I'd feel comfortable that I knew the whole truth.

FluffyOHaraOfSnugglesville · 28/09/2006 14:39

A 4 YEAR Affair is a f*cking long affair... would you be so calm if it was a 4 year affair with a woman??

mumandlovingit · 28/09/2006 14:47

this man is obviously not beign straight with you either.he is lying to you saying he's in hospital and someone else is answering for him as he answered the phone when you rang! he must have thought it was your dh and not you.

this sounds really harsh and im really sorry but from an outsiders view, he's been taking you for a mug for the past four years.he would've carried on whatever it was he was doing if you hadnt caught him.he hasnt owned up of his own accord, he wont discuss the truth with you and is obviously panicking now its all coming out in the open the same as the other man now seems to be.

is the other man gay? does he have a family?

no one can tell you whether to stay with this man and try to move on and work through things or not thats up to you.im trying to rebuild my relartionship with my dp at the moment and its really hard.he was only seeing someone for a week or so after he left me and he didnt even sleep with her.its so hard to trust when its been broke after so long.he's not living with us at the moment and we're taking things slowly.is that an option for you if you want to try to salvage things?

four years is a long time to deceive someone and im assuming that you've had a normal sexual relationship in this time and had children.if he's done whatever he's done,kept it all from you and been seeing this man and texting him throughout all that time could you ever really trust him again, with women or men? something for you to think about.

im really hoping you can sort through this and decide what's best for you and yor family either way.dont stay with him for the kids because they will notice in the end and it doesnt make a happy family.you need to make sure you're happy with whatever decision you make.take time and dont decide overnight, he cant expect you to, especially without knowing the true facts.

imnotamouse · 28/09/2006 14:51

well,this man lives in s.ireland which is a long way from us so i don't THINK that's what he's doing----although,nothing would surprise me now!

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FluffyOHaraOfSnugglesville · 28/09/2006 14:53

Can I ask a question...

...it sounds like you don't really know this other man (that is godfather to your kids) how did he become godfather?? I assume it was your husbands choice so how does husband know him?? do you think they've always had history? is the godfather leading an openly gay life?

mumandlovingit · 28/09/2006 14:56

can you wait until he's gone off out, then turn up at the man's? he might be there ad if he isnt it might give you a chance to speak to the man.they'll have talked by now and be sticking to the same story just to get themselves out of shit.

sorry but i wouldnt believe a word that comes out of his mouth, or the other man's.he's lived a double life for so long now.he's got no respect for you or your family.if he had he wouldn't have done any of these things in the first place.

im quite harsh today i know and im sorry if im upsetting you but he seems like a complete w*er.your kids dont need to know whats happened even if you dont stay with him.

personally after 4 years of that, id already have his bags packed and out the door.let him worry about where to go, supporting himself and proving himself to you over time if he's so sure that it is you he wants.i think he's chosen because he's been caught, not by free choice.sorry but you deserve better than that and more love and respect than that.

i'll shut up now and let someone else write!

mumandlovingit · 28/09/2006 14:56

x posted.sorry

arsenelupin · 28/09/2006 19:27

He may be hospital, but it doesn't sound likely. They may be in cahoots and both covering up something - gambling (can be done long-distance, can be 'play'), or an affair either with another woman or between themselves - in that case it might not be an affair in DH's eyes if he doesn't want to think of himself as gay. He might say 'playtime' and mean exactly that, something 'fun' he does with a friend, no ties, etc.

imnotamouse · 29/09/2006 12:01

well,i'm afraid i played devil's advocate last night and texted this man pretending to be my hubbie.
this is the dialoguemay not be totally in order as i'm doing it from memory).
ME:Yo (knew this was obviously their "code")
HIM:How's things at home? (presumably he read the text that hubbie sent night before saying that i knew everything. Either that,or they've been talking in work time.)
ME:...wants to split.
HIM:St.Are you blaming me?
ME:Yes
ME:She thinks i'm gay.
HIM:Hope we can still be friends.
HIM:Do you like guys or girls more?
ME:What do you think?
HIM:I would say you like guys more these days.
ME:Why do you say that?
HIM:Just a feeling I have.
HIM:Do you really enjoy sex with women?
ME:With "...",yes!
ME:I've never had sex with a man to compare.
HIM:Guess you must be bi then.
HIM:No one is 100% either way. Guess I must be bi.There are some women I would do.
HIM:Graham is bi. (who the f
k is Graham?)
HIM:Can you sort things at home?
ME:I don't know anything anymore.
HIM:Sorry.Hope we can still be friends?
HIM:Shall I come over or should I stay away?
(he lives in S.Ireland so would have to be quite a journey to get here!).
When I'd done this, I went upstairs and told my hubbie i'd been in touch with this bloke and told him what i'd been doing.I asked him again if there was anything more he wants to tell me but he still says it's not what I think.
Then I texted this bloke and just put:
Just to let you know,it's ... you've been talking to not .....But thanks for giving me all the ammo. I needed. ... doesn't want you here.
Hubbie knew what I was texting and didn't seem to care. Then he asked for his phone back and I threw it at him and went back downstairs.
This morning, there was a message on the phone to say he'd talk when he got out of hospital!

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imnotamouse · 29/09/2006 12:06

where did the sad face come from?
more like !!!

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imnotamouse · 29/09/2006 12:15

Funnily enough,Arsenalupin-sorry if incorrect spelling-I'm the one with a bit of a gambling problem. In fact I have a very addictive nature.Which is why I confide in him.I admit to him if i've done anything stupid. So I think if it was the case of doing anything like that he would've taken the chance to open up to me.
Being an addictive person though, I have told him that if he is addicted to this type of phone sex,it's going to rear its'ugly head again at some point. That doesn't bother me. As long as it's with a proper sex chat line and not someone he knows!

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NOredbullLOTSOFGAVISCON · 29/09/2006 12:31

hi just read this cant beleave it feel so for you, what do you make of his coment i would say you like guys more these days??, do you think they have done something?? do they work away toghether?? how much involvement in your childrens life does he have??

imnotamouse · 29/09/2006 12:43

well,i've asked dh what that comment meant and he shook his head and said ,"he hasn't got a clue about me".
this man doesn't have alot of involvement with kids as he lives away.
he sends the odd pressie at christmas and birthdays and that's it now really.
(most of the god parents are the same though so that doesn't really mean anything).
I haven't actually seen this man for about 4 years. (about the same amount of time that dh reckons he's been sex-texting him!)
they lived in ireland together---even when we had just got married,as i stayed over here until i had worked my notice etc.then i moved to S.Ireland with him into a new house.
this man used to treat us all the time.took us to lots of posh restaurants etc.
bought me lots of posh perfume etc.
it was me,in the end,who got a little brassed off though as i sometimes felt he was always there.
then this man applied for a job abroad which he got.
my dh decided he wanted the same as it was a brilliant money-earner.
when he eventually got the job,i had just found out i was pregnant so i moved back home and he went away-on and off for 2 years where he lived with this man and about 4/5 others in a villa!
In the space of 2 years i had 3 children and he was abroad for most of my pregnancies.
he's a brilliant dad though.
he's a brilliant husband believe it or not.
i am still in total and utter shock.
it's a good job there is a mumsnet!

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SherlockLGJ · 29/09/2006 12:55

Sorry but I am still

NomDePlume · 29/09/2006 12:56

massively

anniediv · 29/09/2006 12:58

If, as you say, your husband 'hates' him, why did they live together in Ireland, live together in the villa etc? Also a bit

SherlockLGJ · 29/09/2006 12:59

Well OK here goes, I think we are dealing with a troll..........

ishouldbedoingtheironing · 29/09/2006 13:04

Sherlock
Ive been following this thread and thinking same for a while - its not making sense.

SherlockLGJ · 29/09/2006 13:07

If the poster is genuine, she would have the answer to some MN questions would she not so here goes......................fill in the blanks.

The and the football.

_ noises during sex.

Who is a magistrate ??

FluffyOHaraOfSnugglesville · 29/09/2006 13:08

LOL LGJ..

..me miss, me miss...

anniediv · 29/09/2006 13:09

I only know the answer to the 3rd one, and I'm not a troll, honest!!!!

SherlockLGJ · 29/09/2006 13:10

Sit down, if I had wanted to ask you I would have.

If only you were so keen all the time.

Have you handed your homework in ??