Hair Down There

[Oowhachamacallit]

OK girls, I have a new relationship and will be dtd hopefully! What is the protocol for Hair Down There?? I'm late 40's but trim and fit but haven't got a clue about what to do? Trim, shave, hairy? Whats a girl to do??

Answers on a postcard please!

Most men's preferences go out of the window after they reach the 'laughing zone '.

Absolutely. Although I'm really a marmite girl. (Marmite, and a muff that isn't waxed - there's no hope for me!)

You are right Curious, they aren't very fussy by that stage. Just grateful.

if you took that to the extreme you wouldn't necessarily do hair, makeup, perfume, shave armpits, buy nice clothes.

It's perfectly possible to do that, without feeling in anyway extremist. I have my haircut once a year, rarely wear make-up, only put on perfume if - on reflection - the shirt I'm wearing could have gone in the laundry basket, but there's no time to change. I never shave under my arms, and rarely do my legs. I wear very plain clothes unless it's a special/formal occasion.

I'm in a happy marriage with someone who says lots of appreciative things to me, and shows that he finds me physically attractive. I have a loving family. work I like and a decent social life. That's what's important to me (And I don't have to waste time doing pointless things that I don't enjoy to my body.)

betterbox Yes absolutley I should have said IMO. But that wasn't what my post was about, it was about replying to your comment that insinuated I was poor in bed because I prefer a woman to be hair free.

John

How was my post unkind? I was referring to posts that had said things such as '[a hair free vagina] looks like a plucked chicken' that hair free looks pre-pubescent and implying one would need to be attracted to pre-pubescent girls to find it appealing. That adults have hair and children do not and so on.

I never said anyone was wrong to want hair, or made a derogatory comment about it?

There's no expectation, read the OP

It is much less pleasant to go down on hairy woman than one who is hair free. Nothing to do with technique or 'doing it right' it is just less enjoyable for the giver.

My mistake - this is actually a very kind thing to say to someone who is worried about a new relationship.

Tbh the derogatory comments have definitely been aimed towards those of us who choose to go hair free.

Pre-pubescent, plucked chicken, oppressed by men etc.

What happened to freedom to choose? Personally I think that pubic hair is quite unattractive, as I do with other body hair. Nothing to do with pornification of women or anything else. I shaved mine off long before I ever watched porn or had any conversation about pubic hair because, shock!, I don't like it!

If other women choose to grow their pubic hair and wear it in dreadlocks then good for them! I wouldn't choose to go down on said women, but I'm sure there's plenty that would happily.

Oh, and it isn't pubic hair that makes me womanly, its the fact that I'm you know, what do they call it? Oh yes, a woman!!!

Saying you are oppressed isn't an insult! It simply accepts the fact that socialisation affects decision making. In what way is that horrible?

Err, implicitly stating the reason we chose to go hair free is due to social pressure and not accepting that we just prefer it personally.

Do you understand how social pressure/patriarchy works? If you do then you would realise you cannot know if it is down to your personal choice or socialisation. We don't have a society free from that to compare it too!
Why is it insulting to say we are all subject to it?

John.

I have already stated I should have said IMO after that sentence. Because that is MY opinion. There is nothing rude or unkind about it.

Perhaps if I had said 'I don't like going down on a hairy woman - and any that are hairy are nasty, dirty bitches that look disgusting!' I could see where you were coming from.

better
So you can make a choice without being pressured by society but I cannot? Wow, I did not realise what a weak individual I am, thank you for bringing it to my attention.

I actually like the look of trimmed hair in a landing strip style but I would not have it done myself as I like being hair free. Why can't you accept that is my decision and my decision alone?

I like going down on hairy men and women. And I've tried all sorts. Hairless is no cleaner, trust me. It can be just as smelly if not looked after.

Thank goodness we all like different things eh. My only objection is when people imply hairy a downstairs is a bit unclean. I wash mine every day, I don't know about you.

I don't think I'm not subject to socialisation. I know I'm deliberately saying something against what it tells me to. Knowing that shows it exists.
Do you think it's a coincidence that no one used to remove hair at all? Would you have waxed 50 years ago? Before everyone else did? Before The prevalence of porn? Before More revealing swim and underwear? Before being surrounded by pics of women's crotches in revealing clothes that show them hair free? From mag covers to advertising to music videos.

Wow, this isn't a thread to read with dinner!

I don't agree that anyone who wants hairlessness is oppressed. I've preferred it since hair arrived! Well before I had been exposed to any sort of porn. If I was oppressed maybe I'd make the effort to stay hairless month on month, but I don't.

I am not saying it is weak in any way to do it. You have put that attitude onto it.

Honestly, people can be clean or dirty regardless of whether they have body hair present or not.

The reason I don't like to go down on a hairy woman or man is because I don't like pubes in my mouth.

The reason I prefer to have someone go down on me with no hair is that its far more sensitive and thus feels better.

And given that I was 11 or so when I took a razor to my pubes, I don't really think I had much social conditioning one way or the other. I just started off by not liking it when I got hair caught when putting in a tampon so shaved it off. I then decided to keep with it. I've always preferred the feel of smooth skin on a woman, especially on myself.

And yes it is offensive because it implies that I'm unable to think for myself!

To be fair, waxing wasn't even a big thing 50yrs ago. That's got fuck all to do with social conditioning and everything to do with times changing, evolution, improvements in technology. 50yrs ago people also often used to bathe weekly, didn't use sun lotion etc etc Hardly a marker for what is the norm now.

And it truly isn't any effort at all to maintain. I go to a beauticians every few weeks and have my waxing done and a massage. Every 3rd visit I see the chiropodist too. I enjoy being able to just lay back for a while and chill out!

In some cultures hair removal has always been quite popular but in the West women did not even remove the hair under their arms until advertising in the early 1920s started suggesting it was "unwanted hair". We are all subject to these pressures. Remember the OUTRAGE when Julia Roberts when to an awards thing with hairy pits?

That's exactly why the 50 years who example works...

1920 was a bit more than 50 years ago.

You don't think you are told how and what women should look like by age 11? Ask a 3 year old why they want to wear pink and be a princess.
Societal conventions and patriarchy influence everything we do. Down to what we eat, what jobs we do, what we wear. Both men and women! Why is it harder to accept when it's about waxing?

So we wax because of evolution now

Something that has always confused me is why people will put wax on the most sensitive part of their body and then tear the hair out by the roots.

No thanks.