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H headbutted ds......advice please

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thelineiswhere · 09/09/2014 16:55

H (definitely not 'd'h) had been drinking bottled beers at home on Sunday afternoon.

He then decided to go to the supermarket as he often does on a Sunday afternoon to buy more bottled beers and some food items for his own personal consumption. (Money is not the issue here, so the shopping thing is a red herring but bear with me).

He was gone for several hours and I suspect he went to the pub for a couple of hours as when he came back he smelt of beer.

I was giving the kids some tea at this point and he dumped his shopping in the kitchen and hung round the table in the dining area adjacent to the kitchen winding the kids up ended up annoying ds in some way and ds told him to go away. H can be very annoying under the influence as he pushes the kids until they snap, I usually walk away but the kids were at the table eating. Anyway he wouldn't go away and was leaning in to them invading their personal space so to speak and ds pushed him away but it was like a hit on h's chest rather than a push and with that h had him pinned up against the wall with a chair and said "d you know what I do to people that hit me..... I headbutt them" and proceeded to bash his head against ds's which bashed back against the wall. Younger child was yelling at h to get off ds and leave him alone.

Ds was shocked and we all kind of yelled at h to stop. He started to tell me it was my fault and if I didn't start to... but never finished his sentence.

I reassured the kids later that h was very wrong to do this and checked ds wasn't injured.

h didn't speak to any of us for the rest of the evening as kids went to bed after a bath/shower.

Has he crossed a line here ? Things have been bad between us, he barely speaks to me at all but I assumed he'd snap out of it eventually like he always does.

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SouthernComforts · 09/09/2014 17:23

Do you seriously not know how wrong this is?

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MarshaBrady · 09/09/2014 17:23

You need to call the police re the assault.

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iK8 · 09/09/2014 17:24

This happened on Sunday?!

Call the police and get him removed from the house.

Women's aid can help you arrange the restraining order.

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JadeJ123 · 09/09/2014 17:24

My husband would of got strangled if he dared that with anyone. Your son deserves safety not to be near a vile man

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AdamLambsbreath · 09/09/2014 17:25

OP, that is appalling.

I imagine he does not confine his abuse to your children. Under those circumstances you may have been ground down to the point where you're telling yourself that the way he treats you all is OK.

I suspect from you posting here and describing him as 'definitely not 'D'H' that inside you know there is something deeply, deeply wrong with his behaviour, and are looking for confirmation.

You have it.

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Andro · 09/09/2014 17:27

The line he shouldn't have crossed is miles behind him, now you need to protect your dc and that means police intervention and getting him out of your life.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/09/2014 17:27

How old is your son? You really need to get him checked out at the doctor as sometimes head injuries can be less obvious at the time but cause severe damage.

Your husband is a criminal who assaulted your child and traumatised your other children. What would you do to someone else who did that - a teacher say?!

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HaroldCopter · 09/09/2014 17:28

OP, if this kind of behaviour is par for the course in your house, which it sounds from your post that it is, then I think we can all appreciate how difficult it will be for you to take this further, as incomprehensible as it might seem to those of us who aren't and haven't been in your situation.

However, this - physical violence - is a worrying escalation in the abuse being inflicted on you and your DC. You are their mother and you need to protect them. If you don't act now, in response to this incident, then you may well find yourself losing your children which must be the last thing you would want. This could be the case either if SS get involved and discover you have failed to take action to protect them from violence. But even if you do nothing and brush this under the carpet now, and even if your H never does anything to you and your children ever again, your children WILL remember this, and do you think they will forgive you for not protecting them? You are now their only hope: call the police and get out now.

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youbethemummylion · 09/09/2014 17:30

I hope OP is busy calling the police right now.

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MrsDeVere · 09/09/2014 17:31

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inner · 09/09/2014 17:32

Crossed a line? Are you fucking joking?

Of course he has crossed a line! Pole vaulted it in fact!

I'd have kicked him out then and there and I'm amazed you didn't.

Get rid.

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wrapsuperstar · 09/09/2014 17:32

Jesus leave him. Now.

I don't even care if your kid is a hulking, obnoxious lad in his late teens -- he's been assaulted by his father. And it sounds like your bloody husband's hideous, drunken abuse is not a new thing in this family either. Sad

I am actually shaking because this was my dad. He would drink and drink and then come home in the most foul moods -- even when he was 'merry' he was in reality being an abusive, drunken pest who had us all miserably treading on eggshells. The day my mother left him (I was 15) was one of the happiest of my life. Do not continue to subject your children to this hell a day longer.

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HanselandGretel · 09/09/2014 17:33

How awful for you kids to be sitting eating their dinner and have a drunken bully goad them so much that one of them, your DS, can take no more and has to push him away only to be headbutted 'cos that is what I does' to people who hit me....this is assault, this is abuse, this is assault, this is abuse, this is assault, this is abuse....you get that OP?? Report him to the police, it is your duty to protect your kids from this , if you don't then you are in effect colluding with him. Sorry to be so harsh but what you relayed on here warrants it.

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Humansatnav · 09/09/2014 17:33

Please, please, please get your children and yourself away from this vile, violent, abusive man. Police now.

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Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 09/09/2014 17:35

Y.Y MrsDeVere.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 09/09/2014 17:36

He's so far past the line he can't even see it. It's a dot in the distance.

If you don't know this then honestly in dear for you too because if you have been lead to believe this is normal behaviour then he's done a job on you too and I hope this thread allows you to see just how bad it's got call the police get him.arrested and call whatever numbers you are given to get yourself and your children as far way from this man as possible I beg you to believe us when we say that this is as far from.ok as it gets.Thanks

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wrapsuperstar · 09/09/2014 17:38

Oh and MrsDeVere is actually right in more ways than one. Because even if SS don't swoop in and rescue your children from this appalling situation (which they would be right to do!) your children will really struggle with your choice to remain with this abuser.

I speak from experience. There are wounds in the relationship between me and my mum even now due to how long it took her to leave a man who spent every day of his life putting me down and beating me up. I'm 28 now, she is 50, and we are not as close as I know we otherwise would be because I find it so hard to let go of what I feel was her failure to protect me and my siblings. However, the relationship we do have is thanks to her choice to step up and put us first, albeit it rather late. Because of that I am able to respect her and love her and allow my own two babies to know and love their grandma. Please do the right thing. Please.

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theDudesmummy · 09/09/2014 17:39

We don't know the situation, please stop attacking her everyone. There may be many reasons why he did not act/protect the child/kick him out: it is probably not physically possible for her to do so, and may well have became emotionally/psychologically impossible as well. He may be threatening and abusive in many different ways, there may be other family issues, she may simply have been conditioned by her abuser to the point where she does not believe she can leave and does not have the confidence to do so.

The only important thing is that she acts now. OP, you and your children are, as everyone has said, in danger both of severe harm, and of being separated by Social Services. You can reduce the chance of any of that happening if you call the police and get out of this now. Don't think that by sweeping this under the carpet now you are making those outcomes LESS likely, you are not. You are making them MUCH MORE likely.

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scarletforya · 09/09/2014 17:39

I'm shocked you even have to ask! Op he seriously assaulted your child. You need you report this to the police and get him away from your children.

People will find out and if you haven't reported him to the police YOU will lose your children.

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theDudesmummy · 09/09/2014 17:40

sorry my post should have said "reasons why SHE did not act".

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TSSDNCOP · 09/09/2014 17:40

I'm curious about your words "I usually walk away, but the kids were at the table".

Does that mean he is abusive to you as well, but you diffuse matters by taking yourself out of his way.

Or does it mean that he abuses the kids and you usually walk away?

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306235388 · 09/09/2014 17:41

Has he crossed a line?

I don't know what's scarier the fact that he physically abused your kid or that you let him and then aren't sure if this is normal or not.

Protect your children.

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beccajoh · 09/09/2014 17:44

One of the saddest and most horrifying OPs I've seen on Mumsnet Sad

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SlicedAndDiced · 09/09/2014 17:45

I'm sorry if I sound like I am attacking the op.

I have been in and struggled to leave an abusive relationship myself. I had lots of gently supportive friends, and that was lovely but it didn't work.

Until another woman who had done the same thing gave it to me straight, no cotton wooling. I needed a kick up the arse and that worked.

Op needs one too. Flowers

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HeySoulSister · 09/09/2014 17:48

Doubt the op will be back..

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