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Upsetting behaviour

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Alteredlabel · 26/08/2014 11:43

Been with bf 2.5 yrs, have a baby together. Went to the Edinburgh fringe for the weekend just the two of us. We have both been to the city once before separately, so not very familiar with the city. We were having fun, drinking and catching shows etc. I wanted some food from one of the food stands, we were waiting but other people were getting served before us (there was a poorly communicated queuing system that the staff were sticking to but customers were unaware of) my bf got pissed off (he hates queuing and has a short fuse in such situations) and walked off. I knew that he had had enough and would not want to return to this queue. I was really hungry and really wanted the food so stayed where I was, in the queue.

I heard him shout me a few times but I knew he would be wanting to go elsewhere and I wanted this food that I had already been waiting for, so I didn't turn around. After I got the food and moved away from the stall, my bf was nowhere to be seen.

I sat and ate the food, no sign of bf. I waited there for 45 mins. He didn't have his phone with him (he had my mobile number written down in his pocket) and my phone was very low on battery power. He didn't contact me, or come back.

It began raining. He had my waterproof with him when he disappeared. Eventually my phone died and I decided to go back to the hotel to recharge it and get my umbrella.

I felt really upset that he had basically abandoned me in an unfamiliar city and not returned or contacted me.

A couple of minutes after I got back to the hotel, he got back. He claimed that he hadn't gone off in a strop/anger, he had just gone to get some cash. I pointed out that if that was the case he could have told me, returned to the same spot or tried to call me. Eventually he apologised and we headed out again.

Later on when we got back to the hotel, we had sex, he was quite rough and seemed a bit angry. He didn't climax and said "you will have to suck me off" which I was a bit taken aback by. I didn't want to go down on him until he had had a wash but he kept asking me to. Eventually he had a wash and I gave him a blow job. He kept trying to feel my bottom and vagina, I asked him not to because I didn't want him to. He kept ignoring me and putting his hands down there which irritated and upset me.

When I started giving him the blow job he asked me to take it deep. I said it would make me gag, to which he replied "you will have to gag then". I ignored this and laughed it off as I was a bit drunk. He put his hand on the back of my head and was quite forceful, it made me gag a few times and I pulled my head away. He said "come on!" And when I gagged again he called me "pathetic" I am really upset and angry with him and feel like he treated me really badly. He has apologised because he knows he's upset me but the next day I was too upset to talk about it in detail and I'm not sure he remembers.

I don't know what to do now. This was very out of character for him. He has been very respectful in the past. I have post natal depression and can't think straight. I don't know if this was just a horrible one off incident that we could somehow get past or if it shows that underneath his loveliness he is really a nasty person?

OP posts:
LumpySpacedPrincess · 30/08/2014 09:52

rainbow what utter utter nonsense. What is it with all the apologists lately?

Lweji · 30/08/2014 10:04

Rainbow, read the fucking OP. It's not about what happened at the food stall, it's later at home FGS, and his later reaction to it.

AnyFucker · 30/08/2014 10:08

Well, what happened later was just an unfortunate drunken sexual encounter, according to rainbow there

Lweji · 30/08/2014 10:09

So, rapists can be excused if they are drunk?

Gettingmeback · 30/08/2014 10:10

Rainbow, you might subscribe to the the school of thought that intoxication is a legitimate justification for sexual assault, but most people don't and thankfully, neither does the law. [shudders to think what rainbow has experienced which makes her/his radar for a healthy relationship so warped]

wendle70 · 30/08/2014 12:10

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RedRoom · 30/08/2014 12:26

Wendle70, I think saying he was 'very rude' minimises it. Rude is pushing to the front of a queue. Abusive is deliberately making someone choke during a sex act. Big difference.

AnyFucker · 30/08/2014 13:56

Wendle, you sound like just another apologist for sexual abuse, much like rainbow there who got deleted

Vivacia · 30/08/2014 14:03

I've reported your post Wendle. It's minimising a very serious, humiliating and confusing sexual assault.

Alteredlabel · 30/08/2014 14:12

If rainbows post was a vitriolic, misogynistic rant, then it was probably him. He knows I use MN.

It would be an ironic username as he never smiles (glaring red flag there)

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rainbowinmyroom · 30/08/2014 14:22

It was a vile rape apologist, as is the sock puppet wendle.

Lweji · 30/08/2014 14:22

Rainbow is a usual poster. He was minimising what you went through and excusing it with drunkenness.

EllenMumsnet · 30/08/2014 14:43

Hi all.
OP sorry you've been through such a horrible experience Flowers.
Hope MN has been a support, and that you've got some friends or family in RL to help you too.

FYI, there is more information on domestic violence here.

rainbowinmyroom We've had a look and can see no hands in sock puppets at this end. Please do report anything you'd like us to look at rather than posting it on the thread.

wendle70 · 30/08/2014 19:49

I'm not sure it is fair that i take the time to try to help and get shot down for my views. I was trying to give a balanced view which obviously a few posters have disagreed with. Apologies if I have offended anyone and OP i really hope things work out for you. I'll bow out now.

Waltermittythesequel · 30/08/2014 20:08

You weren't giving a balanced view, you were being an apologist.

Here's a clue: rapists aren't rude, they are violent, dangerous, misogynistic criminals.

My grandmother is rude. OP's husband is a rapist.

Get it?

Dinnaeknowshitfromclay · 30/08/2014 20:21

OP, you are doing absolutely the right thing by getting away from this man. He knew what he did to you at the festival was wrong, did it anyway and then made some bullshit story up about getting cash. He knew he shouldn't go to your home. He did it anyway and made some bullshit story up - again. Please re-read this thread and see him, really see him. Oh and you have been raped by the way. He thought he could get away with it as your were a bit drunk but....oh yes he knew he shouldn't do it, did it anyway and then...came up with some bullshit story. More pattern here than a Wilton carpet!

MagnificentMaleficent · 30/08/2014 20:44

Well done on telling people IRL too OP.

That's a very brave thing to do Thanks

GarlicAugustus · 30/08/2014 21:03

Flowers from me too!

HansieLove · 30/08/2014 22:06

If he wants to recreate some porn he has seen and is using his girlfriend as a fill in, then he can go wank in a gutter somewhere.

gincamparidryvermouth · 30/08/2014 22:17

Oh my God, your OP was absolutely shocking. It made me feel physically sick. The weird thing is that it's happened to me, with more than one dude, so it's not like it's a brand new concept to me. When I think about my own experience of it I just feel bruised and ashamed, but when I read about it happening to you it made me feel like I was being literally shocked.

Well done for acting, you have done brilliantly. It's so easy to just not think about it, but it never goes away or gets better. And your life isn't a car crash. You've acted swiftly and decisively to protect yourself and your children and you should be proud of yourself.

BravePotato · 30/08/2014 22:21

Sorry OP, that is very shocking.

I don't know if it us something you can "forgive and forget".

Horrible. Do you have someone who can back you up when he comes over? A friend or family?

AnyFucker · 31/08/2014 16:35

There is no "balanced view" where sexual assault is concerned

Trotting out crap like that is what stops women from leaving relationships like this, because they think other people might think they were making a fuss about nothing. Just like this woman's delightful sexually abusive partner, now permanently ex I hope

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