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Upsetting behaviour

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Alteredlabel · 26/08/2014 11:43

Been with bf 2.5 yrs, have a baby together. Went to the Edinburgh fringe for the weekend just the two of us. We have both been to the city once before separately, so not very familiar with the city. We were having fun, drinking and catching shows etc. I wanted some food from one of the food stands, we were waiting but other people were getting served before us (there was a poorly communicated queuing system that the staff were sticking to but customers were unaware of) my bf got pissed off (he hates queuing and has a short fuse in such situations) and walked off. I knew that he had had enough and would not want to return to this queue. I was really hungry and really wanted the food so stayed where I was, in the queue.

I heard him shout me a few times but I knew he would be wanting to go elsewhere and I wanted this food that I had already been waiting for, so I didn't turn around. After I got the food and moved away from the stall, my bf was nowhere to be seen.

I sat and ate the food, no sign of bf. I waited there for 45 mins. He didn't have his phone with him (he had my mobile number written down in his pocket) and my phone was very low on battery power. He didn't contact me, or come back.

It began raining. He had my waterproof with him when he disappeared. Eventually my phone died and I decided to go back to the hotel to recharge it and get my umbrella.

I felt really upset that he had basically abandoned me in an unfamiliar city and not returned or contacted me.

A couple of minutes after I got back to the hotel, he got back. He claimed that he hadn't gone off in a strop/anger, he had just gone to get some cash. I pointed out that if that was the case he could have told me, returned to the same spot or tried to call me. Eventually he apologised and we headed out again.

Later on when we got back to the hotel, we had sex, he was quite rough and seemed a bit angry. He didn't climax and said "you will have to suck me off" which I was a bit taken aback by. I didn't want to go down on him until he had had a wash but he kept asking me to. Eventually he had a wash and I gave him a blow job. He kept trying to feel my bottom and vagina, I asked him not to because I didn't want him to. He kept ignoring me and putting his hands down there which irritated and upset me.

When I started giving him the blow job he asked me to take it deep. I said it would make me gag, to which he replied "you will have to gag then". I ignored this and laughed it off as I was a bit drunk. He put his hand on the back of my head and was quite forceful, it made me gag a few times and I pulled my head away. He said "come on!" And when I gagged again he called me "pathetic" I am really upset and angry with him and feel like he treated me really badly. He has apologised because he knows he's upset me but the next day I was too upset to talk about it in detail and I'm not sure he remembers.

I don't know what to do now. This was very out of character for him. He has been very respectful in the past. I have post natal depression and can't think straight. I don't know if this was just a horrible one off incident that we could somehow get past or if it shows that underneath his loveliness he is really a nasty person?

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Lweji · 27/08/2014 06:50

Not sure you are aware, but as the house is yours and he only lives with you, you can give him reasonable notice (and in this case I think a week would be enough) for him to leave.

Or you could kick him out now or report him for sexual assault if he doesn't.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 27/08/2014 07:04

You say that you gave him a blow job willingly but you didn't really. You were reluctant and asked him to wash which he didn't immediately do. That all sounds coercive and unpleasant. Telling you to deep throat when you have said you don't want to is vile. Decent men wouldn't even ask their partner to deep throat, let alone make a comment like 'you will have to gag then'. Then he kept groping you when you had told him not to. Your second post about the incident seems to be minimising and rationalising the incident which is why I have just reminded you of all the moments where he coerced you, ignored your lack of consent and displayed abusive attitudes and behaviour.

The horrible thing about sexual abuse is that once it has happened you will never be safe again. It will always be there between you even if he makes a big show of being sweet and respectful the next ten times. You will always be waiting for him to assault you again.

diggerdigsdogs · 27/08/2014 07:04

That's horrible OP. Totally agree wth what's been said - you were being punished like a dog for not listening.

I hope you can get him out but, as AF said, be safe. Call the police if you are frightened or feel threatened.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 27/08/2014 07:19

That's horrible and you're probably a bit in shock.

I hope it works out, but please whatever you do, don't let him minimize it so you start believing it wasn't that bad.

Good luck.

JadeJ123 · 27/08/2014 07:27

He sounds vile and like my husband, hence why we're no longer together.

BrightestBulbinBox · 27/08/2014 08:04

I'm not sure you can just kick him out of his home without any notice - you two have a toddler together so he's not just a boyfriend - you will be co-parenting and raising your child together for the next 16 years.

I'm not defending his actions. But I am shocked at how quickly posters are advising to LTB. It's a bit more complicated than leaving a boyfriend, isn't it. Hmm

Lweji · 27/08/2014 08:15

Yes, but notice only needs to be reasonable. Two weeks is the average.
Living in partners have few more rights than simply bfs. (pointing out for anyone who things living together is almost the same as being married)

In this case, as I suggested earlier. As he has sexually assaulted her, she can get legal and get him out.

If you are afraid of him, you can get an emergency injunction. Check NCDV

And anyone who sexually assaults another should be leaving asap. Always.

Perplexedaschips · 27/08/2014 22:28

How are things OP?

ouryve · 27/08/2014 22:39

Poor customer service shouldn't extend to the way he interacts with you. He's not a customer of yours, ffs. You've had some good advice - he has shown you who he is and there's no turning back from that.

2.5 years is nothing, child together or not.

Although BrightestBulb needs to add about 6 characters in a name change. Seriously, how is controlling rape behaviour not a game changer and a reason to LTB?

bellasuewow · 27/08/2014 22:50

I am gutted for you op this is such an upsetting post. His behavior is vile. My dh is an impatient person but also kind and gentle we have rowed in 14 years we have been together and had drunken sex but he has never come remotely close to behaving in the way you descibe. I am saying this to demonstrate the way that other good men are there is no excuse for this. If you behaved like that to him how would you expect him to react to you. Good luck op I hope you know you deserve much better.

Alteredlabel · 28/08/2014 09:36

He's still here. He says he was pushing the boundaries and wanted to act out some porn he'd seen.

He says the things he said were "a joke".

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Alteredlabel · 28/08/2014 09:38

I just want it to not have happened. I don't want to deal with it. I feel sick and numb, I think I'm in shock.

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rainbowinmyroom · 28/08/2014 09:48

He will continue to push boundaries as it is obvious he has been watching violent porn.

He did not even discuss this with you because he wanted to be violent.

This isn't good.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 28/08/2014 10:02

Please tell him to step out of the relationship for a while so that you can think calmly and deal with the shock. You're still trying to contain this internally - I don't think you've shared this with anyone - and what has happened is extremely serious indeed. If he considers acting out violent porn a 'joke' he's got problems. It's not pushing boundaries to tell someone that they should gag on your penis and then call them 'pathetic' when they refuse ... it's sexual assault

Alteredlabel · 28/08/2014 10:12

I've packed his bags. The numbness is starting to fade and I'm feeling the anger now.

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BrucieTheShark · 28/08/2014 10:15

You don't push boundaries sexually without the consent of everyone involved. If you do, then it is assault/rape.

If you wanted to 'act out some porn', a normal loving couple would also agree this in advance even if boundaries are not being pushed.

A coincidence that he did all this without your consent when he was angry with you for having your own opinion and acting of your own volition? No.

He actually sounds scary. And it's even more scary that he has hidden it so well for so long.

OxfordBags · 28/08/2014 10:26

'Pushing the boundaries' is just a fancy way of saying 'sexually assault'. If he want to act out some porn he'd seen, he should have explained in full what that was, asked for your willing consent and agreed to stop the second you became uncomfortable with anything happening.

But if course, that's not what he was doing. He was punishing and degrading you for not obeying him, and used a form of sexual degredation and punishment he's seen in porn.

Abuse most often starts when a woman is pregnant or has a baby. This is your reality now.

You might not want to deal with it, but you have to. This man has shown you his true colours. If you let this pass, it will not be the first, nor the worst thing he does to you. Once something like this occurs, the relationship is over... unless you decide to stay and tolerate more and more abuse and let your child be damaged by being part of a family with this dynamic.

OxfordBags · 28/08/2014 10:26

Good for you, packing his bags!

CogitoErgoSometimes · 28/08/2014 10:27

I'm glad you're feeling angry. Do expect to cycle through all kinds of emotions, however, from anger to sadness to guilt to numbness and more. Victims of sexual assault often incorrectly believe they were in some way to blame or that they could have prevented the attack. When the assault happens in the context of a relationship there are other feelings of obligation, disbelief or rationalising that it was out of character. It is disorientating but you have to stick to the truth. It was not your fault and there is no excuse.

Lweji · 28/08/2014 11:46

Good for you. I hope you manage to go through with it.
If he resists, you should ring the police and report him for assaulting you.
He is not a good one at all.

ouryve · 28/08/2014 11:51

A joke?

Fucking hell.Angry

That wasn't "pushing boundaries", it was demolishing the entire wall and ripping out the foundations. He sexually assaults you and then minimises the whole thing, the next day. That's some seriously warped thinking.

Good for you for packing his bags. Hope you're not folding things too carefully.

MagnificentMaleficent · 28/08/2014 11:54

I think his response is actually a very helpful one, if he had been crying and pleading you could have been tempted to believe him.

All he is doing is trying to continue to control you by telling you how you should be feeling.

I would put money on there being red flags in the past, which will only occur to you when you are apart from him, modifying your behaviour perhaps so he keeps hold of the short fuse you said he has in certain situations.

rainbowinmyroom · 28/08/2014 11:56

The porn he is watching is of women all too often being raped as they are too stoned to consent properly. He assaulted you. That is never a joke. Good on you for packing him up. Do not be afraid to tell people! I have a son. I would want to know if he assaulted my DIL like this.

Vivacia · 28/08/2014 12:02

Are you getting any support from Rape Crisis, GP, a good friend?

BuzzardBird · 28/08/2014 12:43

Well the 'jokes' on him now isn't it? Tosser (literally). Tell him he needs to sort out his porn habit if he wants to have a normal relationship with his child.

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