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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - In Search Of Sobriety, Sunshine & Survival!

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Mouseface · 01/08/2014 15:59

Hello, I'm Mouse :)

Welcome to the thread, or our mythical Bus called Gerald! Grin

There is room for everyone. Always

There is help for everyone who wants it. Always

There is unconditional support and kindness. Always

We have two sentences that we believe in here -

    • The Vulnerable Need Our Support, Not Our Judgement
    • Alcohol Fosters Inertia

No matter what it is that you drink, how much, how often, we've ALL been in your position at one point or another...... so most of us WILL know exactly what it's like to be YOU

If you'd like to read the last thread, it's below -

THIS IS THE PREVIOUS THREAD

And if you want to read a pretty sobering thread and the history behind these many, the reason why we are all here, fighting to stay/get sober is here -

FIRST EVER BRAVE BABES THREAD

Hope to see you soon :)

Mouse x

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spanna41 · 13/08/2014 06:10

Nuff good morning lovely, YES I'm up for the challenge, count me in Babe. I really want to conquer the WW and in my case Smokey Joe Grin Day 10 today and I'm starting to feel a slight boing Shock How exciting is that. Takes me ages to get to sleep could be something to do with all the tea I'm drinking but once I'm asleep, it's deep and undisturbed which is a bonus Smile

Beaches really good to hear from you Smile Yes I've finally prized myself down from the ceiling, it was a strong moon, wasn't it? Meteor showers this weekend apparently, not read too much about it, but would love to see it Smile How are you feeling in the new house? Are all your boys ok? When do they go back to school? can you seen my 'asking question tactic' so that you come back sooner rather than later take care lovely one

It's bin day here today and we live in a road of shops with flats above. I can hear the seagulls pulling the bin bags apart for a little munch of the contents, noisy bastards Grin

Have a good day everyone x

lookingforhope · 13/08/2014 07:36

Morning all. Work today (sighs Sad). But bullying boss is away so may get lunch hour for once and go to gym. DS did brilliant last night Spanna, ta for asking. So proud, he trains hard in all weather and never moans,so when he gets another pb we are both over the moon.. Talking of pbs, 11 days here if you don't count the socially obligated weak Bellini and half glass of white on dd's birthday.. Not my longest af Run as did dry January, but longest sustained effort while my life is really hellish, so small humble 'yay' here Smile

faire am tempted by dry Autumn, but may go away in October so will have to see...

soc - fancy a home swap? 14 is positively balmy for us.

Mouse - how is Nemo today? Big hugs x

Later taters x

spanna41 · 13/08/2014 07:37

afteralcohol.wordpress.com/2014/08/12/parenting-is-hard-enough-drinking-makes-it-harder/

just read this, made me think about when my DDs were little, quite sobering and I can relate to so much of it Blush

spanna41 · 13/08/2014 07:41

Hope 11 Days is awesome Babe Grin Have a good day, at least nasty boss isn't there, that can only be a good thing Smile Even if you don't go to the gym, you could do a bit of window shopping (for yourself, for a change) Smile

guggenheim · 13/08/2014 08:04

Morning babes

11 days is fab- well on the way to a whole month.

soc yes,I don't do one teeny glass of wine either,bottle or nothing here so it had better be nothing! Aa is brilliant at helping you to stay stopped and I think that is the hardest part. Doesn't take much to pick up that first drink and then it all slides. Much better to get to that meeting and top up on sobriety for the week Smile

I'm in with Sober for christmas.

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 13/08/2014 08:30

Morning babes! Tea break time here, 2 croissants and counting...

There you are lovely, today is a new day Xx

spanna double figures!!! And a good night's sleep! I swear the seagulls that sit on my roof have been watching too much Happy Feet.... Hope you have a lovely, lovely day! Xx

looking well done, amazing achievement!

In the meantime, if anybody needs me...

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 13/08/2014 08:31

You know what to do Grin

The Brave Babes Battle Bus - In Search Of Sobriety, Sunshine & Survival!
MaryMungoAndMidgies · 13/08/2014 08:33

Btw, fell asleep again before catching up with you all, will try to improve matter tonight, xx

Anneisnotmyname · 13/08/2014 09:20

Double figures spanna brilliant!!

I like the idea of a sober autumn but I have a couple of birthdays every month. I'm thinking I should try nit to drink, especially wine, except then. I'm feeling apprehensive about winter, whilst it's been warm it's been easier not to drink wine, once it cools down I know I'll start craving red wine. baby I understand how you feel about tge kids being back at school - when I'm busy with them I don't want to drink, and I'm properly tired on the evening. Autumn is going to be a challenge for me I think

Fairenuff · 13/08/2014 09:39

Anne I'm the opposite, I find winter easier because I'm more likely to have hot drinks and soups. Chilled white wine on a balmy summer's evening is more likely to tempt me.

Regarding special occasions. I have already done quite a few birthdays, social events, etc. without drinking. I decided to do an experiment and see what it was like to not drink at a celebration. I thought, I will just try it and, if it's awful, next time I will 'allow' myself to drink.

But it actually turned out to be pretty fantastic. Not only did I still have a good time but the sheer relief of knowing that I didn't have to drink socially if I didn't want to was a massive boost.

So, anyone got a celebration coming up that they would normally allow themselves to drink at, I can highly recommend having a go at doing it sober. After all, what have you got to lose. It's one evening, or one event. There will be hundreds more over the years. But you might gain the gift of freedom from social drinking. And it really is a gift. It's so lovely to discover that you can still enjoy yourself sober and it opens up a whole new lot of possibilities.

Anyway, that's just my thoughts Grin

aliasjoey · 13/08/2014 10:11

Morning babes day 3

babyj are you there! not seen you around (although I may have missed a post?)

aliasjoey · 13/08/2014 11:56

Apologies for the upcoming long post, it's just there's so much on my mind right now, I need to put some of it down.

We have no money. We're supposed to be going on holiday on Saturday (to Wales - I dare not check the weather forecast) DHs car has been in and out of the garage all week, he's already given them £200 and had to take it straight back to them! He's had to work from home, his colleagues are giving him grief and he is sooooo pissed off Sad

Luckily PIL have said we can borrow their car for the holiday, but we still have NO money - worry, worry, worry.


And there's something else. Okay, this is going to sound weird... I think my period is late (not sure because I don't exactly keep an eye on dates) And yeah, there is a possibility... Blush but on the other hand I think I've been peri-menopausal for a couple of years. (because of other symptoms, periods have still been pretty regular)

By the weekend, I was thinking - I'm definitely late. Took off my bra Sunday night and OMG by breasts nearly exploded. Hmmm. Although that could be a sign of period due (not for me usually) but not menopause surely?

Monday I was thinking about it all day (by the way, I am 44, other kids nearly teenagers, exhausted, very poor etc) so I got a test, which came up negative . Now as period was late anyway I got the cheapest LLoyds own brand and didn't bother using early-morning-urine. So it may not have been too accurate? TBH I wasn't sure whether to be disappointed or relieved (would have loved another - but at my age?! and it would have killed DH for sure)

Last night, bra off and again breasts felt very tender and heavy. Still no period. It's surely either menopause or...

I guess I should test again properly but we are so tight with money it seems like a waste especially as most likely it is just meno.

spanna41 · 13/08/2014 12:49

Joey you poor love. Right, where to start, I think these preg test are pretty accurate, first pee or not. I think your periods on it's way. Do you know when your mum's menopause kicked in? or any other women in your family, ask them if you don't know already.

Regarding money, do you have access to a temporary over draft? Have you anything that you can hock for the time being, any jewellery that you don't wear? take it to a pawn shop and see what you can get for them. they don't have to go forever just a temp measure. Have you anything that you can put on Ebay for 3 day sale (not really enough time to do this) but you could get some stuff together to sell and put it on for 7 days and when you get back use that money to pay some of over draft off.
Ask a friend if you can borrow some money and offer to pay small amount of interest back?? Whatever you do please don't go to one of those loan companies with 1000s% interest.

Just a few ideas that may give your mind a lightbulb moment. x

spanna41 · 13/08/2014 12:57

Joey another idea, do your DCs have DVDs, Playstation games, ninendo games, WII games that they don't use anymore. Do you have a shop near you that buy/cash in things like this? x

aliasjoey · 13/08/2014 14:36

spanna thank you for your reply

well I've thought of a simple explanation for the Exploding Breasts Syndrome; last week as I had recurring thrush I followed a tip (probably off Mumsnet Grin ) to boil my bras. So I did 'em at 90, and they probably shrank... oi, stop sniggering at the back!!

Mum had a hysterectomy, I believe Gran's menopause was early.

Re. money, we must have sold everything in the house that isn't nailed down! I have got an overdraft facility but they charge £££. Am sure I was turned down for a loan, or maybe they offered to add it to my current loan I can't remember. Maybe after the hols I can go back to the bank.

Fairenuff · 13/08/2014 15:14

Grin Joey

About the holiday, do you actually want to go? Would it be less stressful (money wise) to cancel and stay home or would it be too much of a disappointment?

spanna41 · 13/08/2014 17:11

Joey 90 degree wash, blimey that would shrink anything Grin
Grin re sold everything that isn't nailed down (sounds like my house) So you have got some money, just not alot? Can you cook and freeze all your meals before you go to take with you? or is it self-catering anyway? You could take DCs drinks with you, they always cost a pigging fortune, don't they?

Anneis thanks babe. Summer is worse for me as I'm a cold white wine drinker too, blimey, love the stuff Confused Hope you've had a good day babe x

Nuff wise words up post re occasions. I've yet to do one, actually I did an AF New Years Eve and then blew it by having a glass of fizz at lunchtime on the first. But didn't miss not drinking on NYE.

Hope just need to check does PB mean pat on the back? sorry being a bit thick Smile

Baby where are you lovely one? x

Justpickone · 13/08/2014 17:47

Hello all, I'm sorry for not replying the other night was in horrors of the awful things I've done in the past to facilitate my habit, the money I've spent, the days I've wasted feeling crap, I'm sure you all do this too?!

Anyway I'm over a week now surely I should feel all fabulous soon?!

Face full of spots must be de toxing!

dementedma · 13/08/2014 19:30

Hi all
Thanks for kind words. Fully in the grip of the beast at the moment for no reason other than lack of will power.spectre of job loss is back,so worried about that. Maybe sexy eyes would give me job. I know I'd give him one...Grin

lookingforhope · 13/08/2014 21:01

But would you give him a job Ma? fnarr, fnarr.. Grin

Sorry your job at risk again. Today we saw our jobs advertised on influential website - but at lower grades and less money. They haven't even confirmed the new structure or put us officially at risk yet. Twunts!

Spanna, pb is personal best. You compete for your own best time, not just to win a race, so although it is nice to place first, really you are just challenging yourself. Bit like life really [Smile]

Joey, how are you love? Any decision about your holiday?

Watching athletics at moment, be back a bit later xxxxx

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 13/08/2014 21:28

Evening everyone, how are you?

joey hugs to you my love, you're going through the mill a wee bit, aren't you? Are your parents in law able to help you a bit, short term? Your DH's colleagues are not helping the stress factor, the twatters. Working from home is still work.

Re your symptoms, I am going through early menopause, your body throws all sorts of up and downy symptoms at you, I have very sore breasts as we speak, out of nowhere, yet haven't had a period or sore breasts since Mirena settled. I second the buying of fizzy juice, crisps etc before you set off, it will save you a small fortune. I hope you find a solution, you sound like you need your wee break, xx

spanna hello lovey, how's your day been? Have you been delighting in your double figures day? I have an image in my mind of you going about with a big pink glittery badge on. An 'I am 10' badge Grin xx

I have had another lovely day, now the weather has broken a bit I don't get so hot and scunnered. Work is going okay, since I stood up to my boss, I have felt a bit more in control. Knowing I have a problem has made life easier, if that makes sense? I know why my feelings were spiralling out of control, I am gradually finding me again, and I like me a lot more at the moment. Little likes me more too, she always got upset when I cried. As for WB, he is perplexed as to why I sound so indifferent when he phones. Because I am. I am put in mind of the name of the Two Ronnies sketch, The Worm That Turned. I'm the worm.

just several years ago, I found myself falling down drunk outside, sleeping where I lay, sometimes covered in vomit. Much of the time I fell asleep on an isolated path back from the village, sometimes in deep snow. I gave up a very, very good job then, to take a job (part time in a bar) which allowed me more time to drink. I lived for the 'and have one yourself...' I am so lucky I am still here, I put myself in the most god awful unsafe and dangerous situations. When I think of where I could have been career and money wise...

However, I retrained, I do a job which makes me happy (but not rich Grin) and I am fairly content with my lot. Looking back, I got through a small fortune, lost friends, sometimes I could have crawled under a rock with shame, I made my family despair, which hurts so, so much. They are proud of me now, even though they know I struggle sometimes. It's a fight, some days are easier than others but I keep on trying. As you must. Nobody expects perfection, keep on keeping on. Fabulousness is yours, xx

Anne I too head for the luscious reds when it turns autumnal. I may just head for a really warming ginger beer instead, or a warm berry cordial this year. I love a proper kick your arse be-hooved ginger beer, Fentimanns isn't bad. xx

ma haud gaun my lass, you're okay. Sexy eyes will see you through. I would sing some Dr Hook for you, but the dog might start crying and giving me the look. But know I'm dancing, and singing in my head. Sending a fecking big bosie your way. T'interbosie if you will. xx

baby how are you sweetheart? You okay? I hope you are swishing merrily, although I suspect you may not be, much as I wouldn't wish that. Properly wrapping you in a big bosie, you are fab, I miss your posts and there is a very empty seat here. Haste ye back quine, xx

marfisa miss you too lovey, how are you? I hope your absence means that you have found your Proper Work mojo and that you are churning out pages and pages of Proper Stuff. Thinking of you, xx

little sending you a big squidge from me and Little, hope you are okay lovely, thinking of you too, xx

Faire your post re social drinking was an inspiration. I am going to try it the first night of the horse trials. My friends are staying in their lorry, and having a barbeque the first night, the food tent always has bottles of fine AF fizz, will bring a bottle of that. To see if I Can. xx

Soc I am sitting at the front, looking ahead. Still want a little shottie of the Smock of Smug. Just five minutes...g'wan.

aliasjoey · 13/08/2014 21:42

thanks guys still no period but am now thinking my poor boobs were just squashed inside 30AA bras Grin oops!

in-laws not helping with money really (and have withdrawn the loan of their car, ggrrrrr) but I've checked my bank account, and actually I can go overdrawn with only £6 a month charge - I think. Plus, DH has found a great deal with the breakdown people where they pay for ANY car repairs for just £9 a month. Since we have old and dodgy cars which lately have been causing problems this is really one worry off my mind.

Now all I have to do is convince DD (12) that the cremation tomorrow does not involve actually watching her beloved go up in flames

dementedma · 13/08/2014 21:55

T'interbosie! Love it
Could use one right now. I feel awfully lonely.

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 13/08/2014 21:56

Great news joey! Car thing sounds fab, and like you say, will be a real weight off your shoulders. I hope you can sneak into your overdraft a little without it being too expensive. Wishing you joy, a safe drive, and above all, happy holidays, Thanks xx

Grin at grumpy squashed boobs. My knickers must feel like that every day...I can hear them now. She isn't going to try to squeeze both cheeks in again?!?

If knickers could say ow, or phone their union, mine definitely would.

littlewhitebag · 13/08/2014 21:57

Hello everyone. I am not doing so well with the no drinking lark. I have had wine pretty much every evening for the last week or more. I am drinking tonight. I have never drunk too much or had a hangover, but i am drinking nevertheless.

I am however, having lovely relaxing holiday and is suspect once i am back to work next week things will settle down i will stop drinking again. I am not sure i am ready for no alcohol ever, but DH and i have agreed absolutely no drinking during the week and only some nice wine at the weekend.

The good news is that my mum is doing remarkably well after her heart attack and hopefully will make a complete recovery.

Love to you all. You are wonderful people.