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He "vetoed moving house"

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Peonysandblueglass · 30/07/2014 08:49

So now we are stuck in a tiny rented house full of his hoard of crap.
When we decided to move in together he said he couldnt move into mine because of his cat and mine was on the main road, even though mine was vastly bigger / more modern, double glazed etc.
He said that when a house came up for rent on his road we could then move.
A beautiful lovely house came up on his (now our) road and he said "ive vetoed it, we're not moving because a) it will disturb the cat! (it's 5 doors away from our current hell hole) b) it's dark.
Im so angry that he has that lind of power meanwhile I'm living in a mad tiny house with all these buts of electrical equipment he buys on ebay (brken meaninb to fix but never does)
He haz put up a kind of hospital curtain in the kitchen to cover up the hoard which reaches the ceiling.
I wouldn't mind bug he NEVER uses any if this stuff, blaming time constraints ( he only works a 3 day week).
Im just about to marry this man and Im veeling voiceless, powerless, miserable that a cats happiness is put over mine.
This weekend I've said that were going to get rid of all the crap and he has agreed to it so I can look forward to a weekend of arguments and battles to get rid of just 3 of his 4 wooly scarves etcetc.
Sorry for the rant Im so cross and upset.

OP posts:
dreamingbohemian · 30/07/2014 09:05

"I'm so angry he has that kind of power" -- so stop giving it to him!!

He is not your master, you are a free woman and can do what you want. For god's sake, don't marry him.

You have only one life and it's short, why on earth would you waste it being unhappy when you can just walk away?

Longdistance · 30/07/2014 09:06

If you sign on the dotted line, you will be stuck with this man til you can divorce him. A divorce takes longer than the wedding ceremony takes. He won't change, ge puts his cat before you Confused stupid man

PittTheYounger · 30/07/2014 09:07

why do you find him attractive?
he sounds NUTS

Walkacrossthesand · 30/07/2014 09:07

You posted about him before, didn't you, when you had to decide whether to give up your larger home on main road to go & live with him, because his concern over his cat's safety on the main road trumped everything else. The writing was on the wall then, wasn't it - he clearly isn't a man for compromise, hence your options being limited to (a) put up with it or (b) live separately. No third option that any of us can see, sorry.

pictish · 30/07/2014 09:08

You had me right at the beginning, where you agreed to leave your big, modern, far more suitable home, for the sake of his cat.
That set the tone there and then. Him and his cat rule the school, while you...drool.
Now you know - he has no intention of moving, and how it is, is how it will always be. That's where you live now. Forever.

Get out now before you are legally binded to this selfish, inconsiderate person, who bullshits you about his intentions to keep you there.

chinamoon · 30/07/2014 09:11

Don't marry him. Hoarders drive sane people nuts. Because it's not just stuff that they won't shift, it's ideas, emotions, life plans. They are inherently stubborn and lethargic and deeply resistant to change in all its forms. You'll waste a lifetime's energy trying to get him to agree to do anything worth doing in life. Unless he has spectacular compensating features which will last forever, walk away now and find someone who would love to share a bright, uncluttered home and life with you.

ginslinger · 30/07/2014 09:11

leave him, he doesn't consult, he tells you what's happening. Get out before you invest any more of your life.

PittTheYounger · 30/07/2014 09:12

i remember the cat thread

DorothyBastard · 30/07/2014 09:15

Please don't marry him.

MaryWestmacott · 30/07/2014 09:16

I actually would say that despite what people say on here, other people can and do change, however, only when they want to or they realise they can not have what they want without changing.

Right now, you're bitching about stuff, but still going along with what he wants, he says what he wants and he gets it, you dont like it, but you don't force him to change.

were you renting on your own privately before? So you can afford it, go find another property to rent, move out, tell him you won't marry him or be with him under the current arrangement. He can move in with you, minus the crap and the cat will just have to cope. If any more broken crap comes into your house, you'll ask him to leave.

However, what you have to be prepared for is when faced with a straight choice, the cat and his crap might well be more important to him than you and so he does'nt change and doesn't come running after you. Personally, being less important than the cat would be a deal breaker for me anyway, so if he would put the cat first, I wouldn't want him. You might feel differently, so you don't follow what is a high risk strategy if you want to be with him even ifyou are less loved than the cat n' crap.

Preciousbane · 30/07/2014 09:17

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PickleMyster · 30/07/2014 09:21

Forget about the hoarding for a moment. He promised you that together you would move into a bigger house, one has come up he's now changed his mind about moving - he's moving the goalposts! Are you going to trust anything he promises you in the future?

Back to the hoarding, bigger house means more space to bring even more crap into the house.

CalamitouslyWrong · 30/07/2014 09:22

I remember the previous thread too. I can't believe you moved in with him and his cat anyway.

If you marry him, this will be your life forever. He's not going to change. In fact, he'll almost certainly get worse. Is that what you want?

It's OK to say 'no' to that as a life plan and go your own way instead.

Quitelikely · 30/07/2014 09:23

Oh well you have been warned. You will reap what you sow. He needs professional help. Print off some information about hoarding and how it's a mental illness. Insist he gets help if he values your relationship. Watch him make the call. If not then you know what you gotta do

BravePotato · 30/07/2014 09:24

Don't marry, people don't change.

He just won't move.

So where would you like to live and how?

No need to break up, but get a nice place of your own.

ElephantsNeverForgive · 30/07/2014 09:25

I'm afraid I'm also going to think say think very carefully.

Doing geeky hobbies and collecting geeky junk is what makes DH tick and it doesn't leave enough time or money for as much DIY and making the house nice as I'd probably like.

But DH's love of all things technical (combined with being stupidly clever) is also how he got and keeps a career that funds a house big enough for his junk and me to be a SAHM.

DH's 'valuable electrical equipment' squiring habits can be massively annoying, but he does manage to take a realistic view of my and the DDs needs too. Your DP doesn't seem to be able to listen or to compromise and that will not end well.

eddielizzard · 30/07/2014 09:28

he is NOT going to change. this is who he is.

think whether this relationship is what you want. if you feel like this now, how will you feel in 20 years?

Softlysoftlycatchymonkey · 30/07/2014 09:30

op I remember you other threads.

If you marry this man you will regret it.

HellonHeels · 30/07/2014 09:34

I recall your previous thread. His concern for the cat was fine by me. His hoarding, obstinacy and refusal to compromise and now the finding excuses not to move are not fine at all.

My advice:

Move out.

Don't marry him.

hellsbellsmelons · 30/07/2014 09:35

You have as many options as you want.
This is YOU and it's YOUR life.
You must know from reading threads on here, that being with a hoarder is just a nightmare.
It's like an addiction. And he won't change.
Please at least, call off the wedding.
I am assuming it's imminent.
Don't worry about letting people down.
You will be letting yourself down if you continue down this path.
You go out and get that house and see what he has to say about it.
He doesn't get to decide everything.
YOU get to decide what you do with your life.
We also know from people on here who were bought up with a hoarder how horrible and miserable life is.
Don't be the person who allows that.

scarletforya · 30/07/2014 09:36

There are no options.

Your post is full of 'he said', 'he said'. Surely you've noticed by now everything he says is a pile if bullshit.

Yet you go along with his nonsense like an obedient lamb. Come on Op. Wake up. Your going to marry this pain in the arse and live in a filthy cave full of crap?

Really? You're saying it's too late? How is it too late, you're not married yet?

He puts a cats happiness over yours. If you sign up for that you will be miserable and you'll have no-one to blame but yourself. Sorry to be harsh but that's the truth.

vicmackie · 30/07/2014 09:43

It is not too late. It is never too late. You are allowed to say "No. I won't live like this. " You have the right to say that.

CalamitouslyWrong · 30/07/2014 09:45

It might be a good idea to sit down and really think about how you want your life to be, both now and in the future, OP. Then really think about whether you're going to get anything close to that with your current partner.

There us no point marrying someone hoping that you can change them. People can and do change, but you can't change them; they change all on their own (and often in wants you don't want). If you aren't happy and feel like you come behind a cat and piles of crap now, you aren't going to feel any better about it after you've signed the papers and tied yourself to your partner. It won't magically fix anything.

So the crucial thing is to decide what you want, and think about how you're going to get there. You could still have a relationship with this man if you wanted; you don't have to live in the same house or get married to do that.

muffliato · 30/07/2014 09:45

I remember your cat thread.

Why do you think you have no choice. You are only engaged. Nothing official. You hate the way you live. So move. Alone.

You will be so much happier.

There have been a couple of threads about living with hoarders. These people do not change.

How could you be happy living with someone who puts a cats happiness before your own?

SanityClause · 30/07/2014 09:51

Hoarding is like an addiction. It will only get worse, unless he confronts the problem, and then has a lot of therapy to enable him to change. You can't do that for him.

That aside, he cares more about his cat's happiness than yours.

Why do you have such a low opinion of yourself that you believe your rightful place in someone's affections is below that of a cat?