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Please be gentle...what do you think? (Bit long sorry)

107 replies

Lula2515 · 28/07/2014 18:19

I looked at DPs emails (I know this is wrong, please don't have a go..I know), and he had been private messaging some women from another office at work. He's been on a couple of business trips with them this year where they've been gone for like a week.
Some of the messages had been deleted.
One of the women was saying "oh woman A has been asking intrusive questions" and he replied "haha she should have been a policeman" there was previous messages between them joking that he was her husband and when was she gonna meet the in laws etc. I know he flirts..
Then with the other woman, she was basically saying "so you didn't tell us your gf was pregnant" and he was like "no, she didn't tell me til I got back from second trip either and she was drinking before I left" (I wasn't). And this woman was like, "come on, you must have known when you were on second trip" he denied it again and said I'd just moved in which was a nightmare (I moved in in feb). He also said thank god it was a boy or he'd run a mile.
I confronted him about it and he said on first trip he told them he was just seeing someone and it wasn't serious. And that he didn't tell them about the baby. He said I was being a psycho for thinking that something was going on between either of them and stormed out.
I am 26 weeks pregnant, he knew when I was 4 weeks- same time I found out. He was pleased.
I feel so hurt. I understand that I shouldn't have read his messages, and this isn't the first time I've done it. But he's stormed off and is furious.
I don't know if how I'm feeling is justified or if I should just be sorry.

OP posts:
Castlemilk · 28/07/2014 23:38

I second the good call.

Ask yourself - would you want this sorry sack of shit to be your dad?

No.

Go home, just don't contact him. Have a better life.

FishRabbit · 28/07/2014 23:39

Oh blimey. I'm so sorry. He sounds like a mega bell end. It really does sound like something has happened or why would he be so vile in his reply?

You and your son will be much better off without him. At least you have a few months to adjust to being a single parent before he comes along. Have you spoken to your mum? X

Lula2515 · 28/07/2014 23:40

No, telling my mum is the next hurdle. Will make it all more real.

OP posts:
Castlemilk · 28/07/2014 23:42

Oh and yes - you will be ok. A fuck of a load more ok than if you'd stayed with him. Honestly.

And the baby. I PROMISE you- having a baby without a partner is hard. But do you know what is 100 times harder? Having a baby with an uncaring nasty player of a partner who is supposed to support you, but actually doesn't. So everyone thinks all is ok, and you're actually going through hell.

Let your family and friends look after you. You will be ok xx

LuluJakey1 · 28/07/2014 23:42

Thanks What a complete and utter shit. Get out while you can. You deserve so much better. How dare he treat his partner, his pregnant partner like that.

ArsenicFaceCream · 28/07/2014 23:57

You'll be more than okay but it will take a little while.

Hopefully you'll manage some sleep tonight.

Stopmithering · 29/07/2014 00:03

Lulu's description of her DP's pride and excitement echoes my experience. This is how it should be.
Your DP is, frankly, a tosspot.
See it as a lucky escape. He doesn't love and cherish you, in fact he seems to have nothing but contempt for you.
Would you be happy for your own son-to-be to treat someone in this way?
No?
Then don't put up with it yourself. If you do, your own life will be miserable and your son will have a shit role model.
Good luck op. I'm sure you are scared, but you will be better for leaving while you can.

LuluJakey1 · 29/07/2014 08:59

Hope you are ok this morning- you probably feel like crap.

Make yourself a cup of tea and some toast and make a plan. Ring your mum and tell her first. Will she come across and see you?

BelleOfTheBorstal · 29/07/2014 09:08

I hope.that you are packing. Life with a new born will be so much easier without this man in it.

KoalaDownUnder · 29/07/2014 09:54

His reply-"nothing has happened you fucking mentalist.. Go fuck yourself I don't need you."

Nasty, nasty prick.

OP, please listen to the people who are saying you will have a MUCH better life without him around. I know it might not feel that way now, but I absolutely promise you it's true.

Anniegetyourgun · 29/07/2014 11:43

I believe trust is very important in a relationship. But you can't really get all virtuous about trust if you are busy betraying it.

Btw everyone's assuming the OP's mum will be supportive - I do hope that is the case. A right-thinking mother will care far more that her daughter is treated right than about appearances.

ApocalypseNowt · 29/07/2014 12:04

What a nasty little man. Please phone your mum and get out OP. Looking to the future this is not the example you want your sweet baby boy growing up with.

He might not need you but i can guarantee you sure as shit don't need him and his abusive, disrespectful ways.

Lula2515 · 29/07/2014 13:11

Thank you all for your support and advice.
This morning we've talked. I feel a bit numb.
He has suggested we could sleep in separate rooms.
My mum is lovely and would be very supportive, but she is also a hoarder and living with her would be quite stressful.
I know this wont be a popular decision on here, but I'm going to see how it goes. Xx

OP posts:
Stopmithering · 29/07/2014 13:23

I fear you are allowing yourself to be shat upon by this man over and over again.

ilovelamp82 · 29/07/2014 13:41

He's drawn you back in. It will only get worse. Especially when the baby gets here.

You're sticking aroubd for the man you want him to be. Not the man he actually is. And by staying you've just told him that it's acceptable to treat you this way. He has not even pretended to be sorry. If anything he has got you to be sorry.

This is all wrong. I'm so sorry for you. I hope you find the strength to get to your Mum's to start a decent life for you and your child.

impatienceisavirtue · 29/07/2014 13:50

This won't ever get better op. He will just keep wearing you down like he is doing until you give up fighting back on it.

NatashaBee · 29/07/2014 14:06

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Jan45 · 29/07/2014 15:04

Oh my, he's shitting all over you and when you question it, you are told to shut the fuck up, all you are doing OP is putting off the inevitable or, a life of lies, mistrust and no respect.

I'd be off to my mum's in a shot, it only has to be temporary.

He now knows he can carry on being a cunt and you will accept it.

Itsfab · 29/07/2014 15:20

You are a fool but it is your life. Unfortunately your baby has no say in it and will not have a great life living with parents who don't respect each other. Separate rooms forever?

You really need to grow up.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 29/07/2014 15:25

What is the point of separate bedrooms? What does this achieve?

hellsbellsmelons · 29/07/2014 15:35

Yeuk!!

He sounds completely vile.
Sorry, but if anyone had messaged me that last night I would have packed up right there and then.
That message alone tells you everything you need know.
EVERYTHING!!!

The bunting is out in force on this one.
He won't change.
He's got away with it.
I really hope your self esteem lifts off of the floor soon and you see him for what he is.
Although I fear you will waste the next few years of life figuring it out.
You will get there eventually.

Please sign up to do the 'Freedom Programme' on line.
Might help you see the abuse more clearly.

ApocalypseNowt · 29/07/2014 15:58

You're sticking around for the man you want him to be. Not the man he actually is. And by staying you've just told him that it's acceptable to treat you this way. He has not even pretended to be sorry. If anything he has got you to be sorry.

^^ Ilovelamp82 has summed it up perfectly.

I can only imagine what you feel like and how hard it seems to leave. But i truly think it's the right thing to do. Please think about if you really want your little boy growing up with this as the example of what it is to be a man and how women should be treated. You may not feel strong enough to do it for yourself but please dig deep and try and do it for your son.

FishRabbit · 29/07/2014 16:34

I hope we're all wrong and that he changes. I fear he is inherently a penis though. Good luck OP. Xxxx

LuluJakey1 · 29/07/2014 16:52

What fish said. I hope we are wrong and he changes but, to be blunt, he is a shit and it does not seem likely he will change.

Really hope you are OK. Keep us posted. It is hard to be pregnant and going through this.

ArsenicFaceCream · 29/07/2014 17:18

Don't worry about the MN 'popularity' of your life decisions OP. Don't be embarassed or apologise.

You are in fact following a perfectly normal path for a woman in a relationship with an abusive man (which is what he is).

It is a minority of people who take a hyper-rational approach and leave after the first incident(s) of unacceptable behaviour.

You are pregnant, your mum is a hoarder. Those are both added complications. Hoarders are stressful to live.

Abusive, dishonest men are much more stressful to live with, actually, but you have the choice.

Don't give yourself a hard time. You can carry out your original plan at any time. It is always there, any day you want to pack a bag and ring your mum, you can. That is a nice freedom that not everyone in a shit relationship has Smile

Good luck Flowers