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Alchol breaking point. How do I stop?

81 replies

GetYourFingersOutOfThere · 05/07/2014 23:33

I drink too much, every night.

I'm managing during the week to go to work but would like to not drink every night but always do due to stress.

How do you a make a break through when your DH drinks as much but manages it better?

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ArfurFoulkesayke · 05/07/2014 23:36

I don't have an answer but in a similar boat and hoping someone will come along who does. Not easy is it?

GetYourFingersOutOfThere · 05/07/2014 23:37

Strangely nice to know its jot just me trying to change behaviours

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GetYourFingersOutOfThere · 05/07/2014 23:43

I have really good intentions and then it all goes wrong

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HelloWall · 05/07/2014 23:45

I don't know, I really don't. I drink too much every night, half of it in secret because my DH wouldn't approve. I can't take a night off. I can't cut down. Not sure what to do.

londongirl15 · 05/07/2014 23:46

Check out the allen carr book easy way and the day long course. The book worked for me but course sounds more effective. Good luck and well done on seeking to solve problem. X

GetYourFingersOutOfThere · 05/07/2014 23:50

Interestingly replies are also mainly seeking help.

I'm not In a position tonight but I hope we can re group here tomorrow too drunk tonight

Really glad I started this thread x

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redmimi · 06/07/2014 00:05

Sorry I can't help but could have written this too. I have such good intentions but then feel like I need or deserve a drink every night and after one I think 'what harm can it do?' and carry on.

MidnightMadnesss · 06/07/2014 00:09

I'm in the same boat as you all. I'm a young-ish mum at 25 and worked in a pub during my university years. I was never a big party animal at all, but my boss was very relaxed about us having a couple of drinks during our shift then staying on after for an hour or two and all drink together. I got into bad habits and now 3 years later I haven't managed to break them. I didn't acknowledge it as an issue until very recently...uh oh.

WhotheWhat · 06/07/2014 00:18

try this blog

Insightful, supportive and funny ...

readrunraverelax · 06/07/2014 00:25

I can recomment a book called "Thrive" by Rob Kelly. I do not have an alcohol problem, but I read this as I was clinically depressed with PND.

A friend recommended this book for me. This book has helped people to stop drinking, stop smoking, over-eating, eating disorders, perfectionism, etc., as its main point is to change your thinking.

You say you need a drink. You do not. Your thoughts just tell you that you do.

Very best of luck. My heart goes out to you. X X x

Morrigu · 06/07/2014 00:32

Hi there are two active threads regarding alcohol on the relationships board just in case you don't know. Brave babes and the staying dry thread (can't link on phone) I was on the dry thread for a while as I wanted to abstain from alcohol completely and it's full of lovely, supportive people.

I personally called time on my drinking as I was hitting a bottle or two of wine most nights and can say it's the best thing I've ever done. It was hard to start off with but now I hate even the thought of getting drunk and being out of control. I've saved a fortune, feel healthier, sleep better and best of all none of that awful guilt and anxiety about drinking. I could go on with the positives.

I would occasionally 'go wild' Grin and have the odd shandy or glass of wine now every couple of months but never feel the need or want for anything more.

Admitting to yourself there may be a problem is a huge step. Well done and very best of luck

readrunraverelax · 06/07/2014 00:37

I second that. Well done for admitting you have a problem. You have taken the first step.

makealist · 06/07/2014 00:48

I highly recommend you read jason vale, kick the drink easily

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januarycat · 06/07/2014 08:56

Hello,
I second the Jason Vale book.
I was drinking a bottle + daily. I'm an 'all or nothing' person, I couldn't have just one glass of wine, there's no off switch with me!?
There's also a website called 'soberistas' that I found very helpful.
I don't need or want to drink alcohol anymore, it took me a long time to get here though x

littlewhitebag · 06/07/2014 09:38

I drink too much too. I would love a new support thread on here. I have looked at some of the established ones and feel I don't really belong there. I am looking for a bunch of like minded people who are starting out on a journey.

I joined soberista's a while back. It is a great site. But I still haven't stopped drinking

HelloWall · 06/07/2014 10:12

A lot of support out there seems to be for people who want to stop altogether (Alan Carr, Jason Vale, the sobriety threads on Mumsnet), but I just want to cut down. At the moment, I drink half a bottle of wine every night. That's too much. If I could have a couple of glasses maybe three nights a week, I'd be happy. But it's tricky at the moment...

Fontella · 06/07/2014 10:24

All I can say to you all is never give up trying. Never. No matter how many times you fail in your attempts to stop drinking, try again and again and again.

After a lifetime of 'drinking too much' I am now coming into my 7th month of sobriety and I have to pinch myself every day that I have actually given up drinking. Me? Impossible?

But here I am, living proof that it can be done, and I am also one month and a day, into a fitness and weight loss regime and have lost half a stone and going strong. I've never been more committed to anything in my life.

It was as much a part of my life as breathing or going to the loo. I couldn't imagine a life without wine. It was part of my DNA. I could do a bottle in a couple of hours, and be two thirds of my way down the second in no time - on my own - at home, two, three, four times a week sometimes. I've lost count of the money I've spent, the weight I gained, the hours/days I lost to hangovers, the regret and shame I've experienced and the stupid, idiotic things I've said and done because of booze.

I say this every time I post on the 'dry' thread to the point that they must be sick of me, but I'll say it again. IF I CAN DO IT ANYONE CAN. And I mean it.

So no matter how bad it gets, don't ever give up trying to stop. If you fail a hundred times, dust yourself off, get back up and try again.

littlewhitebag · 06/07/2014 11:22

Well done Fontella That is very inspirational and impressive. Did you have to get friends and family on side with you?

Frogisatwat · 06/07/2014 11:28

I started a drinking thread on here as I too didn't feel I was ready for the established ones. It was very helpful and it worked until I told myself I could control it so I slipped off my own support thread Blush
So if you want moral support I am in! I have a head start as I am ill with a virus. So day 1 for me!

Frogisatwat · 06/07/2014 11:29

Oh and I am a bottle a night drinker!

tribpot · 06/07/2014 12:04

I am three years sober. To the point where I can now laugh at the fact I won a prize at work this week - it was a bottle of wine. Fortunately I wasn't at the meeting where the prize was awarded as I would have just taken the bottle and given it immediately to the person sitting next to me. I treat alcohol like plutonium.

I drank to the point where I was dangerously ill. I am stunned now looking back to imagine how I managed to drag myself to work every day at that stage. I had lost about 20kg and my GP thought I was dying when I eventually went to see him. However, please don't do what I would have done if I'd read this on MN when I was drinking less heavily but still far too much and think 'well mine isn't as bad as that so whatever she's saying doesn't apply to me'.

I couldn't imagine how anyone got through more than a day or two without drinking. I rarely ever had a day off and when I did, I would find it impossible to sleep until about 2 a.m. as my brain would whir and whir and whir, it was dreadful. Which of course reinforced the need to have a drink.

Without sounding too preachy, you need to accept when it all goes wrong, 'it' doesn't go wrong. You choose to drink. Saying 'it' goes wrong absolves you of blame. You make a choice. You later regret that choice but you make it at the time.

Here's what I normally suggest on MN. To anyone who wants to change their relationship with alcohol, for whatever reason. Take a month off. Use that month to really look at what your triggers are. They can be unexpected; one of mine was getting off the bus when coming home, my brain alarm clanged 'wine o'clock' and I thought ahhhh that's it happening. Use the month to develop alternative to alcohol that can meet some of the same needs. For relaxation, maybe take up a hobby, particularly one that occupies your hands (knitting is a godsend to me). For taste, something not too sweet to drink - maybe ginger beer, maybe herbal tea. Use the month to appreciate how much better you sleep, to find positive ways to use the extra energy. You will manage stress infinitely better without alcohol than with, but I fully appreciate how unlikely that statement sounds. I would never have thought I could cope with stress without alcohol, I would read it on here and just think 'well that might work for other people but .. '.

For people who are genuinely concerned about their drinking I also recommend this book. You can download the Kindle version and be reading it today. It is not at all preachy or judgemental, it's completely pragmatic and written by people who've been there.

However, the biggest success factor for me has been telling people. When I found out I had won this bottle of wine this week, the first thing I did was tell my best friend - who laughed like a drain. My old team - who thought it was hilarious. My parents, my DH - everyone close to me knows that I have a problem with alcohol, my new boss does too although had somehow failed to convey the message to his boss and didn't know this prize thing was happening. Problem drinking thrives on secrecy. No-one knows you have an alcohol problem (except MN) and you want to beat it the same way. You can't. If you say it out loud it makes it real and scary but it also means you have to face up to it. I was very clear with my close friends in the early days that if I said 'that's it, I'm going to the pub' having them tell me I couldn't do it would backfire and I would have two drinks instead of one. I asked them instead if they would ask me just to wait for 20 mins before deciding what to do. In the end I never needed to put that particular plan into operation but I needed to know I had one.

Likewise when I found half a bottle of wine in the company flat a few weeks ago (I was staying there on my own) my first reaction was to tell people. Make it real. It's there, I don't want it to be there. In the end I left it overnight in case someone else turned up but I tipped it away the following morning. Plutonium.

So telling Mumsnet is a great first step to practice telling other people. Not everyone but certainly your DH, your best friend, people you trust.

As to dealing with it whilst your DH is still drinking, can you ask him not to drink in the house for a month? Do you have particular trigger drinks? Can you take or leave beer, for example? Can he at least avoid the drinks that most call out to you from the kitchen in the evening, like wine? Be clear that it's not about him and how much he drinks, this is something you want to do for you, but you need his help.

Hope this helps. Why don't you and littlewhitebag and anyone else starting out on the journey start a support thread for yourselves? The Battle Bus was never for me because there were too many active drinkers on it. The DRY thread would have been my thing (it never occurred to me to set one up when I needed it). But if the posters there are too far ahead of you on the journey, start a new thread. You can do this. Good luck.

Frogisatwat · 06/07/2014 12:37

What a lovely post tribot.! I want to say much more about it but I am feeling really poorly. So well done and I am taking inspiration from you x

Haggismcbaggis · 06/07/2014 12:45

Hi Getyourfingers. There are a large number of us on MN in the same boat. I use the Dry thread for support ( it's on relationship - sorry rubbish at links). There are a lot of very new people on it - myself included. We would love to see you on there. There is no requirement to be alcohol free to post.

Realising you want to change is a massive step!!! Grin In terms of online support I can recommend reading lots of sober blogs - MrsD is going without, Life after alcohol, a Hangover Free life, Tired of Thinking about Drinking, the 6 Year Hangover are my favourites.

I also listen to podcasts called The Bubble Hour which are hosted by women who have tackled their problem drinking.

All of the above will come up on google. Rubbish at links.

Best wishes.