Is it true most men would rather be with women under 35?

[adjani77]

Unfortunately for me I have been reading a lot online on the "manosphere" recently and a lot about what men think about women ( or a certain kind of man). Talk about "Sexual market Value" which basically amount to women of 30+ are basically hideous monsters to men their own age and older. I see this to on dating websites where men mostly are prepared to date women 10 - 15 years younger but will often not even want to date women the same age as them!

In the press recently 2 high profile men Stephen Hendry and Rowan Atkinson have both left their wives for women half their age (both women are also dead ringers for the 1st wives!).

I find it really depressing. I understand that we can get attracted to other people but if you have a good marriage, if your man is getting love, sex, affection and friendship surely he will have no reason to stray right?

I just don't know. Perhaps I am just worried about getting older 40 in a few years and how will that affect my partners satisfaction with me?

It seems that even men who are happy and love their wives / partners can fall in love with someone else, someone younger and transfer their love and affection to another. I guess I just need to accept that nothing is ever certain in life.

Has anyone else read any of that manosphere stuff about women and SMV etc what do you think?

Uptheanty

No need to explain yourself but thanks all the same

To be honest I got far too much support on another thread I started about this so it's good to be flamed and called a cock. Keeps things in perspective so no probs.

Neil

Fwiw I got the joke and found it funny so no harm done this end

FastLorsi, I can't speak for other posters, but my advice: I think the reason people are starting to ignore you, is that you keep doing the straw man thing: you've got a fairly tenuous argument, based on...Lord knows what you read and whom you socialise with... but are attempting to then connect it to something that has no relevance whatsoever.

give me evidence that the universal phenomenon of men leaving their wives for younger models doesn't apply to well educated men.

What universal phenomenon? Most people know others whose relationships have broken down, but I can assure you that women, well-educated or not, are not quaking in their boots worrying about this - a lot of divorces are actually instigated by women. Are you trying to be a male agony aunt columnist or something? I think most women take men who intentionally come into a mainly female space with a , as generally, they aren't representative of the male population. No man I know has the time or inclination to sit and chat on the internet to people.

they're gay, aren't they, if they don't think what I think.

No love, that's what you get when people emotional invest in a life and vocation they care about and are good at. So they don't then need ego boosts from someone they might have fancied 20 years ago, to regain their lost youth.

I find this site as addictive as others find candy crush addictive.
It's a bit of a generalisation to suggest that most women view men on a mainly female space as a bit confusing. If that's true, there's not much I can do about that I suppose. It could be a misapprehension but I suspect you're probably right.
I originally came on here for relationship advice and advice regarding my kids.

Crustichoc Melonade that echoes my experience. I reckon when people are fairly well-educated and focused on their careers, with relatively full lives, they aren't concentrating on shopping round for younger models

I kind of get the impression that the men being described who chase around after younger women are probably not the pick of the bunch. And vice versa. But if that's what they are attracted to, then good luck to them.

Its such an individual thing. I myself am very fussy. I mean, Rowan Atkinson or Lembit Opik or Stephen Hendry would be definate "no"s. The first two are simply not physically attractive and none have the requisite level of education. The traditional professions at least tend to date amongst themselves. And the younger women they are dating aren't any more attractive than most of my female friends anyway.

Whereas if a man has an intelligent, attractive and talented wife or girlfriend, he himself becomes more attractive and interesting, as it reflects well on him.

I'm thinking FastLoris must know some pretty strange men. Maybe ones who struggle to find a girlfriend and mistake polite conversation for sexual interest. Maybe ones who work in a male dominated environment who don't have the social skills to attract a woman on a par with them. I've seen this in some industries. I wonder if FastLoris is mistaking physical attraction for youth. He/she might not be aware of the ages of the women he/she classifies as "young". To be honest, I somehow get the impression FastLoris is somehow trying very hard to make their theory "fit" as the answer to something that affects he/she alone.

Can't say its something that ever keeps me awake at night worrying - if DH ever messed around with a younger woman, he knows I wouldn't exactly be struggling to find a replacement! I have three male friends aged 27-33 that I go to the cinema etc with (husband works away a lot) and two of them are single, I'd probably go out with one of them if I ever found myself single. But quite happy with hubby thank you!

MelonadeAgain - if DH ever messed around with a younger woman, he knows I wouldn't exactly be struggling to find a replacement! I have three male friends aged 27-33 that I go to the cinema etc with (husband works away a lot) and two of them are single, I'd probably go out with one of them if I ever found myself single

Wow!! I never realised we were that expendable!!!

Rowan Atkinson has a M.Sc. from Oxford, is he not educated enough?

Rowan Atkinson has a M.Sc. from Oxford, is he not educated enough?

Oh right. What in? Anyway, he's not good looking enough, and too old. He's not someone I would consider, if I were single.

Actually, googled him on Wikipeadia: On his first wife "The couple first met in the late 1980s, when she was working as a make-up artist with the BBC". On his new girlfriend "Miss Ford grew up in Bexleyheath, south-east London, before gaining an English degree at Southampton University."

But different people are attracted by different things, to some age is just a number. So good luck to them.

I have to work out a bit harder at the gym these days and my face cream costs could probably support a small island economy

Apart from the above, i would say that I'm much more of a catch now than when I was younger---and I had plenty of offers. That is with stretch marks, dc's, career pressure and all sorts of other responsibilities that I never had before.

I am much more confident and self assured, experience is very attractive to adults.

The kind of men who disregard their own peer group & choose partners based on image are the kind of men most woman would not want long term given the option.

To sum up - they are no prize and they won't outgrow you, it'll be the other way around

Stephen Hendry can work out if he needs snookers or not just by glancing at the table and the scoreboard, so he must be quite good at maths.
Lembit Opik just strikes me as a purple Y-front wearing gimp.

uptheanty its a totally different demographic though, isn't it?

I've had friends who tried internet dating, and they used to show me some of the messages. The men used to say things like "Wow, you're really independent. I admire a woman that's independent" etc simply because they had careers. And you would be thinking about them "What kind of women are you used to then?"

I can't be the only woman age has been more kind to than youth. Nor the only one that has never had to struggle to attract a man. I don't want to boast. I fear I'm coming across as a narcisstist. But I think its important to point out that not all women live in constant fear of their man leaving them for a younger woman. Some of us even have other things in our life too!

melonade

In what way is it a different demographic?

People move in different circles socially I guess Uptheaunty. I mean I guess if someone spends a lot of time clubbing for instance, they will find things more attractive in women that someone who spends a lot of time with friends through a sporty hobby, or a very academic circle, etc..

melonade

I agree to a point.... However I think the kind of man who does this is generally immature, needy & insecure. These behaviours transcend the normal cultures and norms and can be found in most demographics?

I fully agree that we are not all sitting around worrying about losing our men

Surely if you take the view that what matters is your age and looks and that who you are is less important than either of those things then you are just a tradeable commodity.

I'd say that completely devalues you as a human being. Is that really how women should go through life FFS?

I think most women take men who intentionally come into a mainly female space with a , as generally, they aren't representative of the male population. No man I know has the time or inclination to sit and chat on the internet to people.

Is this really what women on here think? If so that's a shame. Admittedly there don't seem to be many dads on here and Dadsnet is pretty quiet but the (few) women who I've spoken to here have been very supportive.

I only came here for some advice but have found myself compelled to keep visiting. Definitely more interesting than Pistonheads.

The other forum I go on is probably 98% male and I wouldn't have got any sensible advice. I did on here. Got flamed a bit. But generally got good advice.

Personally I appreciate the male perspective & value male opinions as much as I do female.

So many studies show that (in an office situation at least) men and women work better at a solution than if separated into same sex groups.

I think that threads with men on usually have a more rounded approach on here too.

Unless they are an MRA. Then it's snooze time

I'm with Neil. If I posted up my query on Pistonheads I would have had a bunch of guys telling me to smash her back door in. Nice!

Thanks though. I may be a cock but am not an MRA. Hopefully that makes me a bit less of one

Uptheanty - But the likes of me and UtterFool "aren't representative of the male population" though.
Some people think that by posting on here it makes us less macho.........................thanks for the flowers btw.

Mehhh... Some people are arses & not representative of the female population..

What's an MRA? It's not in the list of acronyms.
Is it like an MCP?

Men's Rights Activist

Oh right, thanks. No I'm not one of those. I'm not one of those that climb up Big Ben dressed as Batman either.