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DP dragging his heels about our future

627 replies

CarryOnDreaming · 03/04/2014 12:18

I’ve been with DP for 3 years, living together for a little over half of that. I’m 35 and he’s 34 although we both feel younger than that at heart. We clicked from the word go – we have the same sense of humour, interests, plenty of chemistry, get on great with each others’ friends and trust each other completely. He’s held in high regard by colleagues, friends and family and is a truly lovely person. Great, I thought: FINALLY someone worth it on my wavelength!

When we first got serious and had the talk about out future, he said he envisaged us marrying in around 3 years and starting a family in around 5. I was 32 at the time and thought 37 might be pushing it to start TTC, but we’re both ambitious career-wise and told myself it might be just as well we got that side out our lives figured out first, as well as not rushing into things.

3 years on and there’s no sign of taking the relationship on to the next stage. I had a talk with him about the future in a non-pushy way and while he says he definitely still wants to marry me and have a family, it’s in abstract terms of “some day” as he doesn’t feel ready yet. He insisted that was no reflection on his feelings for me. The reasons he gave were 1) He’s overwhelmed by his demanding job and couldn’t see how planning a wedding / being a dad would fit into that right now 2) Our house isn’t big enough to accommodate a child and we can’t afford to move 3) He’d never considered settling down with anyone before me and while he thought becoming a dad was what he wanted, he now thinks he might have been in that mindset just because it’s what people do, and now he’s not 100% sure if he wants kids because life’s stressful enough and at present we have freedom to enjoy ourselves which alleviates that stress.

I’m a planner, whereas he prefers to go with the flow, but when it comes to my fertility, I don’t think he’s quite grasped, despite me explaining it to him, that it doesn’t quite work that way! He seems to see things back to front compared to me, ie: my solution to our house bursting at the seams with no room for a child would be to save up for an extension, whereas he says we can’t afford that (we could if we budgeted, but the thought of spending large sums of money on anything terrifies him) and then a year down the line he’ll still use the same excuse about the house not being big enough!

I love this man with all my heart. He’s not only my partner but my best friend. We have a really warm, affectionate loving relationship and I couldn’t imagine not sharing the rest of my life with him or wanting a family with anyone but him, but when I’m laying awake at night I worry that I’m going to look back at the age of 40 and nothing has changed and I’ll have missed the boat. I often wondered why such a charismatic, loyal, caring, funny person such as him hadn’t been snapped up before – perhaps it’s because he’s just too much of a Peter Pan? Or perhaps I just need to be patient and stop worrying so much? Opinions welcomed, thank you.

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Allofaflumble · 04/04/2014 19:58

Unusual to hear of a man crying to manipulate.Op thinks she is in control now. The reality is that she has a ring. Agree with Scottish 100%. Very sad that any man is better than no man. Speaking from experience here. I too have fallen for similar old flannel. Wasted seven years ofmy life in a ssimilar scenario!

stonehairbrush · 04/04/2014 19:59

Everyone isn't as perfect as you expat, give them a chance FGS!

stonehairbrush · 04/04/2014 20:03

OP - go and get some real life support. Women on here LOVE going on about how awful YOUR relationship is and how you should definitely LTB. They don't appreciate that other people are capable of resolving issues.

Seriously, go get some wine with a mate!

Everyone else - you all gave OP your advice and she took it. It's been a day.

expatinscotland · 04/04/2014 20:05

Never said I was, stone. But I wanted to be married and a mum by 35 so did it.

Oh, and it's not up to up you to dictate how people post on a thread.

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Helltotheno · 04/04/2014 20:21

Women on here LOVE going on about how awful YOUR relationship is and how you should definitely LTB

Mostly from experience though Grin
I can say that I've been in a couple of relationships myself where I would've been glad of some LTB advice a la MN!!

But you're right that things don't happen overnight. I want the OP to do the right thing for herself ultimately, I'm not wishing bad on her relationship. I'm just not sure she is with someone who wants what she wants.

Twinklestein · 04/04/2014 20:24

Stonehair - no-one has said either that her relationship is awful or to LTB. It's because other women have resolved baby issues successfully that they're giving their advice. The OP hasn't actually solved her problem and no amount of drinking wine with a mate will change that - only negotiation with her bf.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 04/04/2014 21:06

Imagine encouraging a woman to be proactive about her own life!! Everyone knows a proper lady will simply wait nicely for a proposal and just be grateful when she gets one.

nkf · 04/04/2014 21:12

If you are now engaged, isn't the next step getting married?

scottishmummy · 04/04/2014 21:13

It's entirely up to op how she processes the responses,she of course can think nah fuck em
I can't see she any further forward,he's still no committing to baby.and marry her sometime
She's said ttc they'll meet in middle Man that so woolly.with no agreed date

Sharaluck · 04/04/2014 21:33

centerforfertilitypreservation.com/age-fertility/

This is the graph showing age and conception/miscarriage rates.

Congratulations on the engagement Flowers

Why not go to the register office for a secret official ceremony and then have the 'real' celebration with family and friends later on. Then you can get ttc straight away.

whattowatchnext · 04/04/2014 21:34

He's stalled you OP, I'm sorry. The ring will stop you going on about kids for a while. This guy is not planning to have children with you, that shines through so clearly from everything you post.

scottishmummy · 04/04/2014 21:36

Expat is right,once you decide your ttc you literally crack on with it.no meeting in middle
And I don't understand engagement as prelude to marriage when you cohabit?
Why not crack on with it?no huge costs.monies saved for weans and house maintenance

nkf · 04/04/2014 21:36

I don't think it sounds as if he doesn't want children. I think it sounds as if sort of does at some point.I think the ring, the special proposal etc are just fluff, but if it works for you...

HandragsNGladbags · 04/04/2014 21:46

I'm confused as normal

So are you now with ring and engaged and telling people OP?

SolidGoldBrass · 04/04/2014 21:48

I'm going to be very crude and blunt here, OP. Does this engagement ring consist of gold and a precious stone, or is it something he picked up from Claire's Accessories on the way home from work?

scottishmummy · 04/04/2014 21:52

As soon as you tell folk we engaged it'll build to a when you getting married crescendo
If his reply is umm-ohh venues,planning,seating arrangements it's a stall
He's already stalled you in dates ttc,so there's woolly meet in middle non-date

scottishmummy · 04/04/2014 21:56

Gold?thats old fashioned I thought platinum was the thing

nkf · 04/04/2014 22:00

Don't be all sneery about the quality of the ring. That's mean.

scottishmummy · 04/04/2014 22:03

I've no particular thoughts on ring,I'm observing I thought platinum was in
Tbh ring doesn't matter.the intent and action matter,as it get on with it
One can have a chunky sparkler or modest sparkler,doesn't matter

Helltotheno · 04/04/2014 22:36

Ring schming... srsly who gives an actual fook about that? people do obvi

Lol at Claire's Accessories... mine practically was from there when I realised I hadn't got any rings for the register office... oops...

Best head to the drunk thread eh :)

expatinscotland · 04/04/2014 22:44

Cash Converters, Hell. We bought ours from there.

scottishmummy · 04/04/2014 22:50

Fuck me,I love a bargain and it dint get better than cash convertors
The ring itself is irrelevant,it's the intent and action that matters

Bahhhhhumbug · 04/04/2014 22:50

My mum and dad only met when both around 30 yrs old in the late 1950s so had to 'crack on with it' Grin They married within eight months (mum borrowed the same suit her sister wore for her wedding and had a thin sliver of a gold plated wedding ring) Their first marital home was a rented tiny attic flat and I was born a year later and my cot apparently was the bottom (opened I hasten to add Grin ) drawer of a chest of drawers and my nappies were made from cut up old towels from an auntie.
I eventually got a proper cot and all mod cons and a few years later mum and dad could afford a three bed house and eventually mum even got a 'proper' (eternity) ring with real gold and diamonds to proudly wear next to her 'curtain ring' .
Those were the days eh ? Had they waited for the 'right time'/till they could afford it/ 'found themselves' or some such misguided priority I wouldn't be here.

scottishmummy · 04/04/2014 23:04

Thats a belter of a story

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