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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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Bogeyface · 04/04/2014 20:35

It is ridiculous I agree!

But you need to be seen to be playing the game in order to come out on top when it goes to court (which it will). At the moment they think they are holding all the cards, so let them think that. Let them get so tied up in their one righteous indignation that they make utter fools of themselves in court.

Mediation is about getting resolution, and you need to show that you were open and amenable to that without damaging your own case (be that the divorce or the threatened custody case). Dont underestimate the power of a charged situation when you are nervy and emotional and he turns on the bullying again. Mediators can stop sessions if they feel it is abusive but once the words are said they cant be taken back and your reaction can be a weapon for him. Using it to make a point because he cant look you in the eye is pointless, it really is. He doesnt give a toss and it wont change anything. He wont come out of it feeling bad, but you may very well do, it just aint worth it.

Shuttle mediation means that you can state what you want/need and he has to respond to that without him being allowed to interrupt, shout you down or abuse you. It is very useful in situations such as yours and I really would insist on it with him as he will use any chance he can to put you down. Taking away that opportunity will send him up the wall but there is nothing he can do about it and that in itself is a victory!

Bogeyface · 04/04/2014 20:38

Oh and yes I agree, it would be great if the relationship failed.....AFTER you have been to court!

Because as it stands his outgoings are shared, housing costs, bills, etc are shared with her so he has a higher disposable income to pay you and your son with, so you will get a higher award.

If it then goes tits up he has to go back to court to get it amended and guess what? He wont be able to afford to!

Play the long game. I know it is hard (God knows I know!) but try and keep it in, be the ice queen in regards to cunt and fruitloop, vent on here and remember that sometimes you have to concede a battle in order to win the war :)

MrsC1969HJ · 04/04/2014 20:52

Springy and LBZT...I will give that all some thought this weekend actually..maybe shuttle is the way to go. I have a friend (who I met at the contact centre actually) who did it and it failed miserably until they actually got face to face. I literally can't bear to look at H at the moment, he just makes me sick with all his shuffling around. He is shamed and shameful and knows it....I can't bear to look at this man I was married to for 14 years and who has done this to me :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 04/04/2014 20:58

Bogey Thank my darling for such a useful input...actually on the last mediation he tied himself up in knots..."I take X each month out of business and give it all to MrsC in terms of maintenance and mortgage interest". When mediator asked how he lived he said "OW gives me money to live on"...when mediator said "so you make no contribution to the expenses of your current home", he said "yes, I pay part of the mortgage and all the utilities"...to which she said "out of money your OW gives you?"...to which he couldn't respond...she cut it short there and said "let's wait for the Form E. It was laughable actually. He then started ranting about closing down his company, "moving out" as it was only "temporary accommodation"...blah blah. He hasn't the intelligence to cope with mediation...and this is why he relied on me so much. He can't let the mask slip with her but it will get him into trouble in the end. He even emailed his solicitor and copied me in saying "I think it's unfair that I am still paying the mortgage for these people, can I cancel direct debit and default"..."THESE PEOPLE"...me, my daughter, HIS SON...WTF?!?!? See why I don't think he'll get far with anything else?!

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Bogeyface · 04/04/2014 21:11

I do understand! I would be inclined to act like the idiot he thinks you are.

He is CC'ing you into his emails to his solicitor FFS! I bet they had a field day when that came through! Clearly the phrase "play your cards close to your chest" means nothing to him!

He is hanging himself and you need to keep doling out the rope. The email you mentioned will go down a storm with your solicitor if it gets to court as it will show his utter contempt of you, despite is protestations that he is just trying to be fair!

Bite your tongue, keep biting it! He is doing all of your work for you!

Bogeyface · 04/04/2014 21:14

And you are very welcome my love :)

You have the power of MN behind, who could possibly fail with that?! :o

frumpet · 04/04/2014 22:01

The only thing keeping their relationship alive is their hatred of you , keep contact to a minimum, that way they will be left with the boring humdrum of a life living together , let them work that one out for themselves Wink

MrsC1969HJ · 04/04/2014 23:41

Bogey...oh yes, he does it quite a lot...and in fact I did ignore protocol a few weeks ago when he emailed me to say he'd cancelled the car insurance because he realised a neighbour had come forward to say she'd seen him assaulting me...then followed it up with "I haven't even started yet"...blah blah...accused me of "sticking the knife in even though I try to help you all the time (??????)", so I just forwarded the lot to his solicitor and mine. This is what I mean...thick as shit...!

Frumpet...thank you, I agree...and that is what I am doing :-)

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MrsC1969HJ · 05/04/2014 09:20

Morning all, ranting on here instead of ranting anywhere else. Why after nearly six months and after everything he has done to me, do I still get this knawing anxiety before every pick up? I try not to see him, son runs out and I shut the door, but I still feel shaky and sick to my stomach every time. How can you feel like that about somebody you've lived with for 14 years? I hate seeing him driving somebody else's car, or even worse, her signwritten cars, it's like constantly rubbing my nose in his "new life". It hurts so much :-(

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handfulofcottonbuds · 05/04/2014 09:34

I know it hurts, he is being completely insensitive. This false display of 'look how wonderful my life is and look how I have moved on from you' shouldn't fool you lovely.

Always have something planned for yourself after pick ups. Lunch with friends, shopping, a massage, buy yourself some flowers - anything. It will give you something to get ready for and not to dwell on that awful feeling of sadness.

MrsC1969HJ · 05/04/2014 09:59

I know it's crap isn't it?! How do you cope with this now handful? I am doing housework today but that is not a bad thing as I can get stuff done quickly without DS here. Am going out with the girls tonight, so have that to look forward to :-)

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MrsC1969HJ · 05/04/2014 10:40

He turned up in signwritten car...I hate hate hate it. Worse, this was the project that got them back in touch again, which he finished off and during which he "fell in love" with her. I hope one day I get the opportunity to make him feel how I do, he might then understand. Tosser. :-(

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LBZT · 05/04/2014 14:12

mrsc don't worry there is something could karma or reaping what you sow, all this will come home to roast for him, but you don't want to be involved because you deserve a clear conscience. I know that sounds mad but it is true, far better that he gets whats coming without you involoved leaving you free to feel a peace that will never be his.
My DS sister had her nose broken by her than boyfriend, months later he had a bike accident and broke his leg, this was worst for him because he raced professionaly. I have always thought that he brought back to himself what he had done.
Don't worry about H he will get whats coming one way or the other and he has brought it all on himself you don't need to taint yourself with his sh*t.

LBZT · 05/04/2014 14:13

I mean my sister not DS sister...what I am typing!

CookieDoughKid · 05/04/2014 14:31

I'm just sad that your ex has turned out this way. He doesn't realise now but he will be regretful in the future. His actions are never forgotten and although my dh did pick up a relationship of a kind in his youth, he never ever forgot what his dad did to his mum. It is everlasting and children are very clever and aware. It has forever shadowed his relationship with his dad to the point that now, he doesn't have a relationship. Just because he is a dad Durant mean he is a good one or a decent one at that. Being a dad should be about setting examples of what a decent person should behave like. A role model. Much that you are on your own here. Don't ever give up. You need to show exemplary for your children. All the best.

CookieDoughKid · 05/04/2014 14:32

Durant sorry I meant to say the word 'doesn't'!

MrsC1969HJ · 05/04/2014 16:14

LBZT..thank you, I know it's true, I do believe in karma. I just feel very hurt and angry today, I don't know why, I just do. I hate my son being with him, being all "wonderful daddy" when he left him, left us in a financial black hole and doesn't give a shit. It makes me sick. It feels like he's getting everything and I am left with nothing. It'll pass, it's just today. I am going out tonight, so that will be nice!

CookieDoughKid...Do you know, my husband has fought all his life with the after effects of his parents divorce, yet he has inflicted the same on his own son. I still can't believe he's on stepchild no. 7. I know that I will always be able to look my kids in the eye, STBXH will reap his just rewards eventually, son too young to understand now, but I know that their relationship will never be what it could have been if he had worked at and stuck with our marriage. Still, it can't have been that good in any event can it?

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MrsC1969HJ · 05/04/2014 17:40

Lovely drop off by husband! Leaves 3 yo on step, with coat and bag on floor and bike covered in mud, knocks on door, jumps in car and drives off. What a wanker.

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LBZT · 05/04/2014 17:56

immature twat.. was your son OK with Dad running off?

MrsC1969HJ · 05/04/2014 18:02

He just watched him driving off. He has now been sick everywhere and complaining of sore tummy. I had the gall to text H to ask what he'd eaten today and he's got all shitty with me. Honestly, what an idiot. I just wanted to know. Probably just a nursery bug, but even so! It's funny isn't it, he covertly accuses me of leaving "marks" on son, but gets funny when I ask why he's throwing up!! I realise that his attitude is because OW is reading texts...!!!

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LBZT · 05/04/2014 18:08

maybe you should text OW to ask what he was fed if H won't answer you..

MrsC1969HJ · 05/04/2014 18:11

He has told me what he fed him but got all shitty about it. He has to be mean to me in front of her because "she needs to know he loves here the most"...yawn....

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MrsC1969HJ · 05/04/2014 18:12

her...not here!!

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LBZT · 05/04/2014 18:13

there are a couple of fools...their "relationship" must be on rocky ground if it needs that sort of affirmation.

MrsC1969HJ · 05/04/2014 18:15

I think she is very insecure, mainly because she is very unattractive. That is not a normal set up by any stretch of the imagination. What a mess he's got himself into there. All I can say is that I never checked up on him, gave him lists, gave his curfews or anything like it...maybe that's where I went wrong!

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