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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 28/03/2014 15:30

Please don't meet her, or even ask to. Every communication you have with them is being used against you. Every tiny bit. The only way you get control is to stop engaging with them and stop showing your hurt.

I know it's hard, really really hard. But nothing good will come of letting them build this story of a mad stalker lady.

keely79 · 28/03/2014 15:55

Wow. Don't really have much to add but Thanks and Wine. If I were you (and I hope I am never in that position) I would leave them to stew in their own bile - minimise contact to the bare essentials and get on with your own life. If they call, let it go to voicemail. Don't read their email messages. Disconnect.

riskit4abiskit · 29/03/2014 18:23

So sorry you are going through this. Am I right in thinking his family support you? If so this says a lot.

It sounds to me as if ow and exh are not very happy at all (or else they would be loved up instead of spewing poison at you). Take some comfort from that.

I feel sorry for the family of ow dead husband too, imagine you loved relative being replaced so easily and quickly.

Op you sound clever and way more dignified than I would be in your situation. Please continue to fight for what is right for you and your ds.

deakymom · 29/03/2014 22:09

how appalling whatever you do dont reply to any more abuse messages from her legally he is still your husband and to be honest i would get arsey and tell them if they continue to threaten you and your child you WONT sign the divorce papers

MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 09:35

Hello everybody, I am sorry it has taken me so long to return to the thread, I've had a lot on. I am SO grateful for all the advice and amazing posts and it appears that the result is unanimous so I will leave well alone for now. I have kept contact to the bare minimum as advised, indeed this morning I have had to email him as DS has a hospital appt on Wednesday that clashes with access. I just stated that in the email, said I could offer tomorrow at such and such a time as an alternative. Ended it with "could you confirm". Hope that is the sort of thing I should be doing! He really messed me about with access last week so I am expecting more of the same, I shall just ignore. On Saturday he turned up in one of her business sign written cars, he does love to rub my nose in it, there was no exchange of words, son was happy to run out to his Dad. On return he just chucked DS's coat and bag at me and walked off with a smirk on his face. Why?! I don't understand it at all. It really grates on me that I am the innocent one here but am treated so badly by him. So, he didn't bother with getting anything for son for mother's day, that quite upset me and the irony was astonishing. He used to get very angry with my daughter's father because he did the same and used to say "he should do that stuff with her for you, it's just wrong", yet here he is doing the same. I shall ensure that when father's day comes round, my son will have a gift and card for him. I will rise above it but it did really hurt me and you can bet the OW was lavished! This weekend has been a struggle actually, I resisted all the overwhelming urges to make contact and I find mother's day particularly tough because my my mum is dead and I miss her so much. Izziewizzie, your post rang so many bells for me, the situation sounding so similar to mine. I take great comfort in that. I know it will get better, but by God, nearly 6 months down the line, I am still finding this so so hard to come to terms with!

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MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 09:39

riskit4abiskit...sorry I should have said, yes have 100% support from STBXH's family...they are amazing. In fact I had quite a long chat with his step-sister last night, disgusted doesn't quite touch it. I am very lucky in this respect. He is totally isolated, will have to create new friends and family via OW as he has lost everybody else. I wonder how long it will be until they see his true colours. I hadn't realised how universally disliked he was by so many people, it has really shocked me. Maybe you don't when you love somebody. I am currently building myself up to go back to mediation, am not rushing it, I believe it will reveal and much longer affair and I will need to prepare myself for that. God knows where this is going to go next....! Oh and apparently she is "building a case of harassment" against me. I'd love to know how! STBXH says he's "not getting involved" while laughing at me. What a pair of pricks!!

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Thetallesttower · 31/03/2014 10:42

You are doing exactly the right think, no communication with her whatsoever (it will be very disappointing for her when she can't bring a harassment case as you have no contact with her) and only professional business like communication about access and parenting with him. Imagine every single thing you do is on video or going to be sent to the solicitor- and just behave very neutrally and very nicely. As you are doing!

MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 10:59

Thanks Thetallesttower...yes you're right. The thing is, he does indeed send everything to his solicitor, it's actually laughable. He "has to" to "protect himself" and can't understand why he was getting £700 a week bills for it! He is on solicitor number 5 now...! I am trying to impart "detached and emotionless"....harder than you think! :-/

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MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 11:17

Oh my God, what a pain in the arse. Now wants to attend hospital appointment with DS on Wednesday. He has shown NO INTEREST whatsoever in anything to do with him. We've been through hearing tests, opthalmology, epilepsy tests, you name it. Nothing, no interest at all, especially with anything to do with statementing. Suddenly he wants to come. Arrgggghhhhhh!

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mistlethrush · 31/03/2014 11:18

Don't make a big deal about it - simply tell him the time and date and location and say you'll be there.

MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 11:29

I have, but I don't want him to come, it'll make it worse for DS who will be upset when his father goes off to his "new" car and drives off. He's just doing it for show, nothing more. I have to insert drops in DS's eyes before appointment which will hurt as they dilate his pupils. He's going to be distressed enough as it is. What an absolute twat he is. I am so cross!

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mistlethrush · 31/03/2014 11:45

I don't remember that the drops hurt - as long as you stayed out of bright light at least.

MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 11:50

Oh OK, they told me they would....really not looking forward to it. Washing his hair is an ordeal enough as he can't bear his head being touched...this is going to be fun :-/

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mistlethrush · 31/03/2014 12:03

If they told you they would they might then - I would make sure that you have plenty of chocolate available to stuff in his mouth to help - this worked with eardrops for DS.

MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 12:27

I will! He has the loudest scream of any child I know, this is not going to be pleasant :-(

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mistlethrush · 31/03/2014 12:32

It's difficult to scream when you're eating chocolate Wink

MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 17:13

Ha ha you are indeed right mistlethrush. I have given him information for hospital and after speaking with MIL, who told me in no uncertain terms to just grin and bear it as it will come back on me, not him, I know I will just have to deal with it. The probability is that he will suddenly get a "call out" or something as he knows I have got a friend coming with me, somebody he has tried to avoid through all of this. Still he might surprise me. I just don't understand this sudden interest. He has behaved like a sperm donor, nothing more, throughout all of this.

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growingolddicustingly · 31/03/2014 17:22

I expect it is because he thought you would say no to him so he could add it to the imaginary list of your unreasonable behaviour. I bet he is furious that you have called his bluff.

MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 18:51

growingolddisgustingly....I think you're right, I will just remain whiter than white! :-)

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handfulofcottonbuds · 31/03/2014 19:15

mrsc - one thing I always have had in the front of my mind over the past 7 months is maintain your dignity at all times.

I only let it slip once where my stbxh was concerned and I pierced little holes in his precious cycling shorts.

As long as you keep by that rule and vent on here, you will be okay and he will not be able to throw anything back at you.

MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 22:34

handfulofcottonbuds...I did laugh at the cycling shorts! I put my H's designer cufflinks on e-bay...and he bought them!!! Ha ha!

However, I did completely lose my dignity at the beginning and am especially embarrassed about the begging texts and emails, apologising for existing, even ones referring to sex that I sent when I had no idea he was living with the OW and was under the impression he was "homeless and sleeping in his van". Gosh, how they must have chortled! I won't make that mistake again I have to tell you. She has already used this against me once..stating it is "proof" that I was responsible for the breakdown of my marriage (blame game again!).

He is just beginning to disgust me now, and all this with the hospital is just a joke. All designed for "show". The thing is, he is going to look such a cock, he has no idea what is going on, what it's for, hasn't even asked! What do I say to the Consultant, "here's DS's sperm donor, can you go through the last six months of appointments with him first"....I do suspect there is something behind this, have my suspicions but will wait and see.

So, another day, another dollar! :-/

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AcrossthePond55 · 31/03/2014 23:37

I think the sudden attention to your DS is so he will look like a 'devoted father' to the courts. Why else would he bother? Could this affect visitation &/or child support?

And as far as the appointment goes, I'd ignore his presence. Speak to the consultant as you normally would. I wouldn't ask him to re-cap anything for the idiot! Let him ask himself, but he won't. He'll just sit there & try to look as if he knows what's going on!

What a putz!

MrsC1969HJ · 31/03/2014 23:45

AcrossthePond...it's just weird! I have no idea and for now won't affect either of those things. He's just making a show, I am dreading it, I am not engaging with him at all, what annoys me is the walking off at the end of it leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my son is left in each time he walks away after what will be a particularly distressing appointment. I hope he feels like shit afterwards because I know I will! Putz - that's a great word :-)

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AcrossthePond55 · 01/04/2014 04:09

That's the part that drives me absolutely mad! The walking away. I went through that (after a fashion) will my best friend's son. Her XH used to do that & he felt so 'father of the year' while his son was left devastated. But he was so proud of what a 'wonderful father' he was just for showing up at some school function for 1/2 hour! He walked up to him after his Jr High graduation ceremony and said 'I bet your mother told you I wouldn't come' and then just turned around and left. No card, no 'let me take you to dinner', nothing!

Putz, indeed. Yes, that IS a good word!

HoneyandRum · 01/04/2014 08:13

OP I would role play that you're in the Mafia. They are masters of understanding that showing no emotion is a form of control. By always being polite and detached and giving absolutely nothing away then you retain your own power in the situation (even if you feel you are collapsing inside). Just play "The Godfather" music inside your head when you meet him. Show. No. Emotion. Stay. Detached.

Don't be self-righteous or scathing as that would reveal they are getting to you. Just be neutral at all times. Think: Robert Duvall.