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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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handfulofcottonbuds · 26/05/2014 18:16

I'd quite like a shag sometime soon aswell

That's the spirit!!

There was a thread on here a little while ago saying that after a break up everyone needs 'overwrite sex' - to wipe out the previous ones you had with your exP.

Livingtothefull · 26/05/2014 18:18

I am another one who has been following this thread MrsC, am horrified at what you have been put though and full of admiration as to how you have coped. I am sure there are better times ahead for you and your DC.

I just wanted to say: don't ever feel ashamed about claiming benefits. I have been in this position as lost my job a few years ago due to redundancy & have a severely disabled DS to care for (have posted about this previously). I don't ever feel ashamed of claiming benefits either for myself or DS. Other circumstances/people put me in that position and there is no reason for me to feel ashamed. I think I am a net contributor to society and you should too.

Think about all the years you paid taxes and contributed, and no doubt will again in the future. Think how you are bringing up your DC who will also contribute to society in your turn. Then hold your head high.

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 18:36

BoffinMum...yes I can, there are two local colleges and one uni. There is also a lot of industry here, large well known organisations. I don't think I would want to go back to City commuting. Too difficult as a single Mum with such a young child.

Handful..nobody really tells me anything, one of my closest friends sometimes gets some "gossip" but I think the impact has mainly been on all of my friends not using her businesses anymore (and that is a sizeable chunk of local mums!). I am very careful with what I say, cant say the same to anybody else. No, I don't know if she's on here but as I have said before there is nothing on here that isn't true or can't be backed up or supported by written evidence so it is what it is. There is also a lot I don't post, certainly in relation to legalities. I am hoping that it will come to an end sometime soon...that seems a bit optimistic though! x

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handfulofcottonbuds · 26/05/2014 18:45

Oh dear, I'm not doing too well on here today, best intentions though. I think I may have missed a few pages, I'm sorry MrsC x

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 19:27

Handful..what do you mean my love? You haven't said anything that needs apologising for! Perish the thought! xx

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3littlefrogs · 26/05/2014 19:43

MrsC, the job centre were fantastic IME.
They organised a course for me, although I had to pay for it, it was the best thing I ever did. Honestly, I had worked for 15 years before having my DC, but had got very out of date.

They got me started so I could get a job, then I got more training through work, and never looked back.

They will be thrilled to give you a chance.

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 20:04

3littlefrogs Thanks so much! That is good to know, and gives me some hope! :-)

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handfulofcottonbuds · 26/05/2014 20:52

I think you have explained yourself regarding the people linked with you earlier on in your thread - I shouldn't have brought it up again.

When I was on benefits, I applied for a job as an adviser at the JobCentre and I spent 5 years advising the long term unemployed, I took great pride in my job and always worked hard for those who wanted to work. It was refreshing when someone came in who wanted to work but sadly IME, not all advisers think that way.

You can achieve exactly what you want to but set yourself achievable goals, you need to get the finances and divorce sorted out first and then plan seriously about your career. You are fortunate in that with your skills, you can use them and work from home as a self employed PA until your situation is different.

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 21:29

LOl Handful, I missed your post about overwrite shags! Brilliant! Someone will turn up one day I'm sure :-). Don't be daft about connections, it's fine, it is a difficult one, that's for sure! It is really good to hear such positive remarks about my future employment prospects, I know that I still have a lot to offer so I will remain hopeful!

Livingtothefull...thank you for your lovely post, I really appreciate it :-) x

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Pinkballoon · 26/05/2014 21:45

MrsC1969HJ
You got the financial statements I see!! Yes, I think that looks about right for a Narcissist! (Think I will have these to come!) Have you got them all? All credit cards? Don't rule anything out. It may well be that there are a few other women on the go too. Which may be why he was so reluctant to hand them over. Also look for umbrella organisations for payments to dating sites (you pay them rather than the Dating Site directly.)

I'd ask for details of the John Lewis transactions. Doubt he was buying lampshades! Its a favourite one for my ex too, because you can't tie down what they bought there (unlike a shoe/perfume/flower shop.)

They're all reading from the same manual aren't they?

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 22:11

Pinkballoon...oh did he hell! One bank account, never mind all the others, no credit cards...oh it was a joke. To be honest, one account was enough, I was utterly devastated. I have got to put this all to him at next mediation. It was a total farce, it really was. He knows it too. As was her "disclosure" ie : it was all "unknown". They are playing a silly game really because if it does come to court, they will both be forced to disclose in full. I think the thing that got me most was when he was on holiday with her on his birthday and he was sending me pitiful texts but was clearly out having a lovely time. This is why he has now turned all aggressive and nasty...been totally exposed and can't face me. When I dared email him about it, I was "harassing" him and he was going to "bring in" the police. Fuckwit. Be prepared, it was the shock of my life, even though I knew it was coming. I just couldn't believe HOW much money he had lavished while I was trying to claim income support and pay for Christmas for my kids. OW's son did alright out of Toys r Us though!

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Pinkballoon · 26/05/2014 22:26

Yep, had the pity me one before. Told me he was sleeping on a bench in the cold. He was actually holidaying with OW (one of many…)

The flowers are an interesting one though. My one used to send me tons of flowers. But that was because we were always falling out (because I had so many suspicions about OW (plural here!!) You wouldn't normally send someone that you were in a stable relationship with so many flowers would you?

Pinkballoon · 26/05/2014 22:29

P.S. Did you get any idea of dates? Was it going on for some time before he left? You may as well go after all the credit card statements. I think there's some rule about you being able to take exactly what he has taken out of any joint account? So if, for example, he's spent £20k on the razz, you are entitled to the same. Lets hope that underwear was big and expensive! :)

pointythings · 26/05/2014 22:35

I just have to echo the theme of forgiveness - my DH's cousin managed to forgive her exH despite 20 years of horrendous physical and emotional abuse... She is now in a long term loving relationship with a man who adores her. Her DDs do not see their father at all, ever. As you sow, so shall you reap.
I really hope this shit week gives you the strength to cut the emotional ties - just because you deserve to have that freedom to move on.
I'm so glad you're thinking about shagging, here's hoping you get a great one soon.

AcrossthePond55 · 26/05/2014 23:02

Hmmm, list of potential shags for MrsC;

Gerard Butler
Tom Selleck
Brad Pitt
John Stamos

Who shall I ring, dear?

Grin
MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 23:07

Pinkballon...Yes mine did a fabulous job of being "homeless"...dirty linen from the van floor (which I fucking washed!!!!!), unshaven, dirty, ill looking. Amazing for somebody living in a 5 bed detached! I have no idea about flowers, my H used to send them to me at work but he's been lavishing them on her! I have found no evidence at all of any affair before he left...amazingly all transactions are immediately afterwards. I will go for the credit cards, either he settles with what I want, or we will go for full disclosure. I suspect there is also a joint account and there has definitely been a lot of "manipulating". He has clearly used a different method of "payments" from the beginning of October (let's say he's not lying, yawn) through to the day he left. Then I think they went out for a big expensive celebratory meal with "friends" because my generous husband footed the £300 bill while I was begging him for money and he was proclaiming he was skint. I said to him "did you tell all your new friends about your on-spectrum son you left on income support"...oh that did cause a tantrum. Slowly slowly it's all coming out. How did they think they could get away with this and hide it?

Pointy..yes I realise it's the way to go, but still a bit raw for me at the moment. I am sure I will get there in the end, but not sure I ever will with OW. What I feel about her can't be put into words. I can't wait for some freedom or a shag for that matter! :-)

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MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 23:09

Across ha ha! My dream man is Jessie Pavelka, becoming quite famous now in the UK. I love him. He's married though to a beautiful woman and has a gorgeous son, but in my dreams, he would be perfect :-)

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AcrossthePond55 · 26/05/2014 23:55

Wasn't familiar with him so googled. Does anyone have a chair and a glass of cool water? I think I feel a little dizzy!

Too bad he's married, MrsC, but we all know that you respect the marital vow, even if 'some people not too distant' don't!

In a way it's too bad that you had to see all that financial info. It would have been nice if a third party could look at it & just say to you "Yep, he's an arse, all right!"

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 23:59

I know he's gorgeous isn't he? He does a few health/weightloss TV shows here. I love him, and he's lovely aswell, just a really decent guy. I follow him on Twitter :-). Indeed, that is one place I will never go, ever!! It's horrible the disclosure and I am so angry with H, I asked him about this some time ago and what it was going to reveal and he just LAUGHED and said "nothing"...what a shit, he knew I would have to deal with this and that is exactly why he is so angry, defensive and has gone underground...and has asked for shuttle mediation (can't even face me in there). What a prick! x

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MrsC1969HJ · 27/05/2014 18:15

So, today I receive a text from a random number informing me that "this is an emergency number for DS, it does not receive texts, regards H. What the actual fuck? He sends me some random number, cancels the number he's had for 20 years (he has, I've checked) and puts "regards" in the message!!! Does anybody in the world know about a phone that doesn't receive texts? What he means is "don't text me" and it's probably a joint contract with OW. I have phoned this "emergency phone" which was switched off. Great in an emergency. So I have told him that until he can confirm that I can contact him on the number that I have had for the last 19 years, DS won't be leaving the house with him. What if I was sat down in A&E and needed to contact him and it's just switched off?! What a twat. I think I know why he's done this, you can run, but you can't hide ;-)

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handfulofcottonbuds · 27/05/2014 18:19

It all sounds like a game to him.

He needs to grow the f**k up!

Excuse language x

MrsC1969HJ · 27/05/2014 18:32

Handful...will PM you! x

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captainmummy · 27/05/2014 19:45

He's texted you to say you cannot text him on that number? Hmm
How weird.

My phone tells me when a text has been recieved - does yours? Can you try to text it?

But totally - if you cannot get hold of him, then he is not to take ds anywhere. Not least because he will be late getting him back, as it will upset you...

Clutterbugsmum · 27/05/2014 20:09

Well as it's only for this is an emergency number for DS, it does not receive texts, regards H. then don't contact him re twunt seeing your DS. I mean it won't be an emergency if you are just arranging contact is it, so you can not use the number he has told you to can you.

3littlefrogs · 27/05/2014 20:45

Just don't contact him.
If he contacts you just say that you tried the number and it was switched off.

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