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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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captainmummy · 26/05/2014 13:58

Handful -I think that is the ideal; to think of the OH as insignificant, with indifference. They no longer have the power to hurt us.

handfulofcottonbuds · 26/05/2014 14:00

MrsC - try and let go of the OW first. She is nothing to you and is hurting you so much. If she wants to do you for harrassment, let her - it will cost her tens of thousands of pounds and about at least a year of trying to prove it - she will not do it!

By focusing on her and her and him, you are preventing yourself from moving forward. Someone on my thread advised me to mentally push those thoughts out of my head when they entered, it took some practice but it worked. Try and detach yourself. It will help you see more clearly.

handfulofcottonbuds · 26/05/2014 14:02

captain - that's how I reached where I am today. In the words of my anthem by The Gossip, 'it's not perfect but it's getting better'.

So grateful for your support Thanks

springydaffs · 26/05/2014 14:03

Sorry for double post, and possible repeat (at least on MN) but my ex was a nightmare on stilts, a narc, who never let up. He married again and I thought things would get better now he had another focus but it got much worse (he was very rich and he could indulge every control fantasy; using the kids, mostly, and money, and the courts. etc. many etcs). I used to think that surely he'd ground me down sufficiently but apparently not, it was too good a sport for him. I hit another depression (there were many) and I began the process of forgiving him. I didn't realise that's what it was at the time but I can see it was in retrospect. It started with counting the cost of all I had lost because of him and his actions. I came to terms with all I had lost, accepted it all, gradually. Then I accepted he would always torture me - that's what he was, that's what he did - and to find a way to live with it (not fight it. It was the fighting that destroyed me the most because he was far more powerful than me, mainly because he was so rich (and he made sure I was so poor) and also because he could go much lower than I could, there was no low that wasn't too low). I must say, it brought me tremendous peace, like an inner cleansing, and I could go forward from there having counted the cost and let him go. It took about 4 months, all in, but it was intense. I wasn't, couldn't, work at the time so it was condensed. It's sound neat but the whole process wasn't at the time.

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 16:10

I think the biggest problem for me with the OW was that I knew her, that she knew my family, that she knew I had an on-spectrum child, that she dismissed my daughter out of hand, that she tried to befriend me and tried to make me feel I was going mad with my "imagination" when she was already living with my husband. I haven't published all her shit, it has to be seen to be believed. THAT I find terribly difficult to come to terms with and feel more animosity towards her than I do my husband. She has an awful reputation, one ex describes her only as "the mistake" (he's a friend of my brother) and has taunted me on and off for years. This is not somebody I can ever come to terms being around my son. Difficult indeed. I don't care what she does to me, whatever threats she comes out with, it's all a load of crap and now she has impersonated me (allegedly) for a financial transaction, she needs to be very careful. I just want to see an end to it, get on with my life, I wish they'd let me!!! You'd think he'd want to get this over and done with and get his divorce but no, he just wants to carry on (a bit like your ex Springy). I will take all these amazing words of experience and wisdom and apply as best I can. I promise!! Thank you ladies, you always make me feel so much better :-) xx

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AcrossthePond55 · 26/05/2014 16:27

Sometimes you don't ever come to terms with what someone has done to you. You just learn to move on in spite of it. Kinda like a pile of shit in the path. You don't always pick it up and dispose of it. Sometimes you just step around it. And OW is the shit in your path. Just try to step around her.

BoffinMum · 26/05/2014 16:34

I don't think I could bear to read through the whole thread, as it's all quite distressing, so forgive me if I am repeating what other people have said, but I think the only thing to be done here is to move on with as much dignity as you can muster. Get a job, get somewhere nice to live with your kids, choose an alternative life without him that makes you happy, and just leave him to stew. Make it clear you have chosen to treat yourself well rather than wait for him to treat you properly. The best revenge is living well.

BoffinMum · 26/05/2014 16:35

PS That OW is a total piece of work and will get her comeuppance. Believe you me.

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 16:50

BoffinMum, thank you, no all support and advice is welcome, it really is and indeed it is very upsetting, especially how two people could inflict such misery on another. She really is a piece of work...pity she's a mother :-/

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BoffinMum · 26/05/2014 16:54

MrsC, I think ultimately it's all about having the confidence to support yourself and your kids, and having your he'd held high while you do it. Out of interest, what line of work were you in before having kids?

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 17:01

BoffinMum, I was a Senior PA in the City, had a great job. I stopped 5 years ago and worked for my husband's business until he sacked me when he left. Arsehole. Excuse language! At the moment I am beholden to the taxpayer, my son is being statemented for ASD. I am hoping to go to college to refresh my qualifications but am fearful of starting again at nearly 45. Something I hadn't anticipated at all! It grates on me that my husband spent thousands on her and her child and their "lifestyle" while proclaiming he couldn't support us. I feel like the dregs of society at the moment...:-/

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3littlefrogs · 26/05/2014 17:17

I just wrote a longish post and it disappeared.

I just wanted to say, please don't be fearful about starting again jobwise.

I retrained at 43 and have had an interesting and productive career for the last 15 years.

It is possible and achievable.

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 17:39

Thank you 3littlefrogs, that is so good to hear! I need to get my confidence back I think, that has disappeared!

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AcrossthePond55 · 26/05/2014 17:47

Remember MrsC that you have paid your taxes! So if you are collecting any benefits now you have already paid for them! You are what our (US and UK) social systems are made for. People who have 'paid their dues' and have fallen on hard times. That other people take advantage of those programs should NEVER be a reflection of those who have paid for them or those who are truly in need through no fault of their own.

springydaffs · 26/05/2014 17:49

He did it though, lovely. He's the enemy (even though she's a psycho bitch). Don't get thinking he got caught in her evil web and he can't help himself eh? xx

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 17:55

Across, yes you're right of course, the lady at the JobCentre who I have to see told me that I wasn't her "usual customer" which made me feel a bit better through the utter humiliation. I have worked since I was 15 years old, so indeed, I will never get back what I put in, but it's still horrible and I still can't believe he put me in that position and then spent "our" money on entertaining her and her stupid friends on top of everything else. Springy, yes I know you're right but she is extremely controlling and a dreadful influence on him. Not forgetting that he is a complete shit, obviously :-) x

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handfulofcottonbuds · 26/05/2014 17:55

Try and view the benefits reliance as as chink in your life. It's there for a reason, to support those who need it for a little while. When I left my DS's Dad when he was 3, I had no choice but to go on benefits and I also accepted food handouts from the church (before food banks). It wasn't the life I wanted or expected but it was what I needed to do at that time. There is no shame.

I've worked in the area of benefits too and only a small percentage see it as a way of life, compared to those who have just been hit with hard times.

This isn't your life long term, it is a bridge to getting the life you deserve.

It's a shame you know people linked with the OW. I'm not sure that helps you.

BoffinMum · 26/05/2014 18:05

Benefits are there for a reason, largely to help people to get back on their feet after something unexpected happens, as J K Rowling repeatedly points out, to her full credit. This is a time you need them. So don't worry about that. In terms of work, if you are a capable PA, is it possible to get some part-time, or even very part-time work as a first toe in the water?? You may find you don't even need to retrain with skills like that.

BoffinMum · 26/05/2014 18:07

Also if it's clear you are serious about wanting to get your career up and running again, I bet the Job Centre people will bend over backwards to help. It must come as a massive relief they have someone to work with that will respond to the various interventions in a useful and positive way.

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 18:09

Yes Handful, it is just a blip and I will get over it. I have thankfully been able to buy my own food thus far and I am actually lucky I get maintenance because I would struggle otherwise. It's been an eye opener and I have been guilty of judging in the past, never again. The thing is we live in small towns right next to eachother, everybody knows everybody, it's just how it is. The fact that she also worked for my brother for quite a while means there are other connections of sorts there, it's not really avoidable and I didn't actually realise how many there were until this happened. I had actually heard of her main business and was going to take my DS there but didn't in the end, I wish I had, I would have then realised who it belonged to and would never have gone back! To be honest, it has less effect on me than it does on them, that's for sure. I think they have suffered more from the "connections" but c'est la vie as they say! x

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BoffinMum · 26/05/2014 18:09

Also even in the last 5 years the law has become a lot stronger in terms of protecting working parents whose children have SEN, so time is on your side there.

MrsC1969HJ · 26/05/2014 18:11

BoffinMum..yes they have said much the same to me! I do need to refresh computer skills as that has changed so much in the past few years so I will use the time before my DS starts school full time (September 2015) to make sure I am up to scratch on everything. What I would really like is a complete career change and do something like law...it is something I was already interested in so I am looking at all options at the moment. I am also interested in HR and a formal qualification in that would be great. So, there's lots of plans afoot. I'd quite like a shag sometime soon aswell....:-D x

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BoffinMum · 26/05/2014 18:14

Don't work in HR then, that's full of women Grin

Can you enquire at a local university or college about part time office work? That way you could start making contacts with people who might be able to give advice on educational things later on as well. Work in FE and HE can sometimes be very flexible if you are lucky.

handfulofcottonbuds · 26/05/2014 18:14

MrsC - if that's the case then play your cards very close to your chest. People that are telling you things may also be telling them too, some people act like they have your best interests at heart but to them it's just gossip.

I know you've said this is your diary and I understand that, but, do you know for sure that she isn't on here and that there wouldn't be anything they can use against you?

BoffinMum · 26/05/2014 18:15

There might even be a job in the Job Centre, you never know your luck Wink

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