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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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captainmummy · 12/05/2014 08:05

These people? Angry He means his children? I really hope this does get sorted, and soon. You don't want anything more to do with 'those people' either.

And ds is 'living in a house of love' now that ex is not there!

DickCrack · 12/05/2014 20:43

Sorry MrsC but "these people" made me snort! Like you and his children are some bunch of ransoms who just turned up??!! Do you think actually he might have gone mad? Some sort of breakdown? Stay strong, you are doing great.

pointythings · 12/05/2014 20:48

That 'these people' comment is really going to make him look good in court, isn't it?

AcrossthePond55 · 12/05/2014 20:59

MrsC, for some reason you popped into my head just now with the feeling that you needed some good thoughts. So I'm stopping by to say that you are doing so well with all of this! There may be more rough days ahead, but you will get through those with the same grace & love that has brought you thus far.

Rock on, sister, rock on!

MrsC1969HJ · 12/05/2014 22:12

Across MWAH Thanks Smile.

OK ladies, today's update. My sol has really let me down, I don't know what is going on there but draft letter won't be with me until tomorrow and she didn't get back to me until late today. I will deal with that tomorrow.

Had email from H this morning saying chasing Weds access and saying "we need to sort this" and he was "taking advice" from the CPS etc. I didn't answer anticipating reply from solicitor which exacerbated the situation somewhat.

I then get another email this afternoon but this time from H to my sol, cc'ing me in stating that he had had "discussions" with the Special Needs HV and she had confirmed that I she had "only" given me advice on hair washing and tooth brushing and he was "speechless" that I had branded DS as special needs for FINANCIAL GAIN :-O. It went on and on...

The next email he said was again to Sol and said that "as my DS has been confirmed as on the spectrum, I am worried that he will be upset not seeing me" or words to that effect...so one minute in denial and the next not..very odd. He also said he was applying for a contact order...

I have decided that I will allow contact on Weds if he confirms it is one to one only which is all we wanted out of this, that is all he has to confirm for the time being. I am a bit concerned though that my DS said this morning out of the blue that he "has two houses"...WTF?! Again, little things trickling out...no son, you do not have two houses, this is your house with your Mummy and your Sister. Spoke to Nursery Manager who said she will discuss all of this with CPS when they make contact and that her only concerns with DS were the actions of his father. Spoke to HV who said she'd not only NOT spoken to H, she had emailed him to say what the process would be and that in addition she had given me advice about hair and teeth, he just doesn't read things or process them! She also said she had made referral to CPS today and was really shocked at the "financial gain" thing. He is complaining that I haven't involved him in the assessment process...utter bollocks and all provable via email.

So, another exciting day in the life of me...for God's sake, when will it all end?! Thank you everybody for ongoing amazing support x

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pointythings · 12/05/2014 22:19

This is in one sense utterly shit in that it brings more stress to your life, but your H is spinning such a web of lies - and evidence against him - that he is digging his own grave (metaphorically). I think you should let CPS do their thing - you are documenting everything that has happened, the professionals agree that you are acting in your DS's best interest and he is not. It's horrible having your life intruded upon like this, but ultimately it means you are going to come out on top - and so will your lovely DCs.#

I have to say your DH is sounding increasingly unhinged, I wonder whether there is something mental illness/personality disorder going on there... However, that is not your problem and you shouldn't feel any sympathy for him.

IAmNotAMindReader · 12/05/2014 22:25

Hold on for a rough ride. It may be increasingly difficult to put your side of the story across in the coming weeks without giving in to the temptation to lose your rag with their insulting and ridiculous claims. However those claims will come thick and fast as it seems their plot to prove you an unfit mother is underway. They may well make referrals to CPS themselves bear in mind it all has to be investigated and you may be asked some really hurtful questions but bear in mind it will all unravel as every other stunt they have tried has done.

Also be prepared for the truly spiteful side swipe of if I can't get residency I will make sure you don't get it either and for them to try to get your son placed in care. Horrible thought but considering everything else that has been done it is worth preparing for.

Express to your solicitor the importance of the issues now and that CPS are getting involved and you need answers quickly due to your sons needs, to keep the stability for him. Things can't be slap dash or haphazard so they need to be on board with the rest of the professionals you have around you in the meantime ask the HV advice on the situation and get as much input from other sources as you can. Perhaps they can recommend a solicitor who understands the approach needed in this case or what else can be done to help the solicitor understand. Not sure on that one though what you can do there to try to put a rocket up them.

MrsC1969HJ · 12/05/2014 22:53

Pointy, thanks for posting my love, God this is just awful. I am becoming increasingly concerned at H's behaviour and I agree there is something wrong although he will tell you it's the other way round and "everybody knows it", I am not sure who "everybody" is as it's nobody I know in terms of friends, family etc...it will possibly be those party to their version of events and who don't know me! During counselling last week I mentioned that I wish we could have some Relate/Family Therapy to deal with all of these "undealt-with" issues between H and I and she said "why don't you suggest it, you've nothing to lose there"...my feeling being that if I can get him in front of a professional, ANY professional to get him to talk as I don't think he has anybody to turn to apart from OW who really isn't going to have anything but a one sided view...I really think he needs something and while I don't have sympathy as such, I can't lie and pretend I don't care after a relationship that has extended over 19 years (14 together as a couple) and also that is having such a detrimental effect on my DS. A guy who worked with H fairly recently commented that he was clearly desperate to talk to somebody but he didn't want to get involved so kept stopping the conversation. I know for sure that OW will do everything to stop anything like that as she went nuts a few months ago when H and I met for a coffee a few months ago to discuss DS. I might speak to GP again....:-/

IAmNotAMindReader...thanks to you too for posting...yes I can feel a difficult time coming up (to say the least) and I agree I might need to get a new solicitor and will seek advice on that. I dread to think of what they will say...but at the end of the day, all of their bile is in writing and yes in the early days I had some humdingers with my H via email but to anybody with a trained eye, they can see what is hurt and upset as opposed to blinding mental illness! This is not going to be pleasant, that's for sure...:-(

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dirtybanana · 13/05/2014 06:58

Hi OP,

Good that you are getting lots of advice and support.

You are worried about your DH finding this thread (if he has not already done so).

For future threads, why not change your username (I'm guessing its linked to your year of birth and initials), and use lower case for the title (as it screams "READ ME"), and go to the more hidden place, whilst having this thread deleted. You can always PM mumsnetters who've helped you to let them know where you are.

pointythings · 13/05/2014 12:08

It's understandable that you can't turn off all the feelings of the past 19 years, and the effect of your H's problems on your DS is not to be underestimated. However, your focus has to be on protecting yourself and your DCs, anything more is a luxury. You really need to focus on getting the divorce done and dusted and making sure that the child protection issues get dealt with properly (i.e. with them realising he is the problem). The dust may settle at some point and allow you to address the unresolved issues, but that won't be soon.

And I would second moving to the hidden place, I'll follow you there.

MrsC1969HJ · 13/05/2014 15:31

News : CPS don't feel this situation warrants intervention. Am actually completely gutted. Have no idea which way to turn now.

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pointythings · 13/05/2014 15:42

Oh MrsC how sad for you. Sad

It would have been so useful to see him smacked on the nose by the professionals. There was really not much for them to go on though - because obviously you were not doing anything wrong, and you were also so very effective in protecting your DS from anything he might have done. In a way this is validation of your belief that you are doing everything right in protecting your son - you haven't given your STBXH any opportunities to do harm.

All you can do now is what you have been doing - document everything, boot your solicitor into acting more promptly and if she doesn't, get another one, keep doing the splendid job you are doing in taking care of your DCs.

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IAmNotAMindReader · 13/05/2014 15:42

This can still be a positive because now he has one less agency to make spurious claims to and those he has already know the situation. Stick with your sons more specialised team and when the time comes get them to produce a report on your sons needs and you H's reactions to his diagnosis and needs.

MrsC1969HJ · 13/05/2014 15:53

But in the meantime he can go his own merry way with cancelling insurance, reducing maintenance, putting my son in inappropriate situations, I am just gutted. I feel like I have nowhere to turn to and nobody to see advice from. It's just shit.

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pointythings · 13/05/2014 16:09

He was always going to mess with maintenance - the CPS wouldn't have prevented this... You need to focus on getting this to court now so that the judge can nail him through the bollocks.

DocMcStuffinsBigBookOfOuches · 13/05/2014 16:19

MrsC - you could contact your local children with disabilities team in the social work department, tell them where you are in terms of diagnosis and ask for some support for your son. This will be a different kettle of fish to the child protection team, and they can do an assessment of needs. You will be able to raise concerns with them about access and ask for appropriate support for your son to have contact with his father.

Take control - do it it now as somebody should still be in the office!

MrsC1969HJ · 13/05/2014 16:38

Doc...I have sought advice from a social worker friend who is getting back to me, wonder if she will say the same thing? I have also found a specialist Relate counsellor who deals with difficult and troubled situations like this involving children and am going to ask my solicitor to suggest this. Mediation is absolutely not going to work with this situation with DS, it really isn't. Somebody encouraging dialogue and discussion based on the needs of the kids might help. I don't think he has got a choice, I will go down the route of us having shown that we have attempted all ways to do the right thing for our son...

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IAmNotAMindReader · 13/05/2014 17:37

Yes, it is really a box ticking exercise. You know he won't co-operate but you also know it will have to go to court. So you need to let him pull his stupid stunts and you need to have shown you have done everything to facilitate a relationship within the boundaries your son can deal with. This is the point where you DH is going to fall flat on his face as he refuses to do this and that is where your ground work with the disabilities team is going to come into play. Unfortunately it was always heading in this direction and he was always going to be a tit about it.

Your HV is on board the other agencies might be a bit slower but keep kicking them into action. Unfortunately you will have to get used to doing this, visit the special needs boards and see how much of a battle it can be to get your sons needs considered, especially once in education. Once people are on board though and all on the same page it can be a wonderful thing to see how your child progresses. Its just unfortunate it can (doesn't always) take such a battle to get there.

If you prepare for it now it'll be breeze when things go smoothly and you know what to do in advance when they don't.

AcrossthePond55 · 13/05/2014 17:40

That's a shame, but sometimes agencies get stuck between a rock & a hard place when there are claims & counter claims. At least there has been a case record made, even if they aren't pursuing it. And cases can be reopened if warranted. So just keep on keeping good records.

Right now there are no court access orders right? So you do control access. Of course, you have to walk a fine line between restricting access due to him exposing ds to inappropriate situations with OW & having him TRY to 'spin' it to make you look vindictive.

Hope you get some advice from the SW friend. And see if your sol can fastrack at least the financials to court. It's awful to have that hanging over your head.

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MrsC1969HJ · 13/05/2014 18:39

Reported as spam! For God's sake, as if I haven't got enough going on....!

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AcrossthePond55 · 13/05/2014 18:40

Thank you julie009 for the good laugh. I needed one. Sheesh!

MrsC1969HJ · 13/05/2014 18:44

Mind you Across, I'd be tempted to try anything these days!!! :-D

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AcrossthePond55 · 13/05/2014 21:27

Weelllll, I will admit that BFF & I made a voodoo doll of her XH at one time. Had a great time one evening with a box of pins & a couple bottles of wine. Had no effect on him, but we enjoyed it! Grin

MrsC1969HJ · 14/05/2014 16:17

Across..what a good idea! I might try that...;-)

Right, have finally had a useful letter from solicitor outlining steps forward which I need to digest, however, a suggestion has been put to H that we undertake a course of family therapy. Whether or not he will agree to this is anybody's guess, I think it is unlikely and OW will not support this move at all I shouldn't think. Personally, I think it needs to be suggested as part of the exercise to bring this matter to a conclusion of sorts and also to show that I have made every effort possible to engage in meaningful communication with my H for the sake of our DS and his welfare. I have also got to email my solicitor with a financial "wishlist" of what I hope to obtain from the divorce settlement. Solicitor is saying that she would hope to avoid a trial due to the costs and actually H really needs to be "encouraged" to agree to my fairly simple wishes given his very transparent and dodgy financial behaviour which could cause him no end of problems.

With regards to DS, H took him out this afternoon with no problems it seems and on a one to one basis. DS was very pleased to see his father which always gives me some comfort. I have been told that any unacceptable behaviour could result in CPS involvement being resurrected, especially as we have now had two referrals and clearly should this situation end up in court, will have implications for H. Will be speaking to SW friend tonight about what advice she can give me from her "insider" which I hope she has managed to get today, obviously on an "off the record" basis but she has been great and very helpful thus far.

I am trying to see this from a different point of view, the stress, anger and upset of the last week or two has really taken its' toll on me and I feel so strongly that there has to be a positive way forward for the sake of bloody everybody! So, will report back when I have more...x

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