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PLEASE HELP - DESPERATE AND AWFUL DIVORCE :-(

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MrsC1969HJ · 19/03/2014 18:03

I apologise in advance for the very long first post, but this is a story and I have no idea how I am going to move on with my life. My husband and I had a baby 11 years into our marriage as he was suddenly desperate to become a father. I already had a daughter from a previous relationship. I didn’t want to have another child if I am honest because I knew that he would struggle to cope and that it would be such a huge change. I was 42 when our son was born, my husband 39. Our son was a very difficult baby who suffered reflux, cried constantly and didn’t in fact sleep at night until he was 2 ½ years old. In the meantime, he was referred for statementing for ASD due to severe behavioural problems. Clearly this put a huge strain on our relationship. 2013 was a very difficult year, my husband receiving a life changing medical diagnosis which affected him quite deeply, I also had two cancer scares and some serious family issues. I also had severe PND which I didn’t seek proper help for, thinking I could cope. All of this put a huge strain on our marriage in many ways. Last October, my husband walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and told me he didn’t love me anymore and was leaving, he then walked out for the whole day rendering himself unavailable. When he returned home he said he wouldn’t leave for a few weeks but I got together every last one of his possessions/clothes and asked him to leave, which he did early the next morning. I was absolutely stunned, I didn’t see it coming at all and while I knew we were having a rough patch, there was nothing that was insurmountable. He assured me that there was nobody else involved and I believed him, I couldn’t bear to think otherwise. However, his behaviour was then astonishing. He raised a divorce petition with his solicitor within 3 days on the grounds of my unreasonable behaviour (so I knew he wasn’t coming back apparently), sacked me from his company (completely illegally), cut off all financial support (despite initially promising that nothing would change financially), cancelled the Sky package, mine and my daughter’s mobile phones and took his name off all the utilities, even taking the credit balances. He had already set up post redirection to the house of a friend where he said he would be staying and announced that I would have to start claiming income support and tax credits and that he would pay the mortgage for the next 13 weeks until I could claim Mortgage Interest Relief. I was just stunned. He just kept throwing things at me, not giving me a chance to breathe or recover. I didn’t eat a thing for two weeks, existing on coffee and protein shakes, losing 2 stone in the process, all while trying to care for two devastated children. I then received a text from him that was clearly not meant for me “you are my life”...I thought I was going to have a heart attack, the shock was indescribable. I subsequently discovered the OW was somebody who had been known to us for around 12 years and was unfortunately somebody I really disliked, much older than my husband and to top it all, her husband was killed last March in an RTA. I initially made email contact with her, explaining my sadness, she replied but tried to use her dead husband and grieving child to imply that she was vulnerable and nowhere near ready for a relationship and I took some comfort (and hope) from that, but it soon became clear that this was not the case and she became increasingly nasty and vile as time went on, especially when I caught them out at a log cabin weekend away when my husband said he was on business. She has called me some awful things, complained about being “bored of your pitiful your bleating”, calling me a “sad fuck”, “grow up and move on”, “if you were so great, why did he leave”, “you kid yourself this is all my doing”, absolutely tortuous abuse. Surely she is the one who involved herself with a married man?! This woman runs 3 child based businesses in a small town and can’t afford the damage to her reputation. She even had a solicitor write to me to threaten me. I have suffered an assault by my husband with police and social services becoming involved, the hell of a contact centre as a result of that, it has been a never ending nightmare. I finally filed for my own divorce on the grounds of their adultery which my husband tried to overturn by pretending he was gay (!). He finally told me that he met her again after a gap of 8 years at the beginning of October via work. He said that two days before he left me (on the 19th), “they” decided they wanted to be together and he tried to do the right thing by not having sex with her until after he’d left the house!! I have subsequently found out that he moved straight in with her (after less than 3 weeks, really?!) and only 6 months after the death of her husband. I can’t believe this relationship hasn’t been going on for much longer but he completely denies it. He re-registered his business to her business address 5 days after leaving me, listing her address as his home address. Last week he cancelled the car insurance just as I was leaving to take the children to school. Who is this man I was married to for 14 years and has turned into a complete stranger, selfish beyond belief and without any moral compass whatsoever? They taunt me with taking custody of my son, tell me I am not fit to be his mother, yet my husband shows no interest in my son’s very many medical appointments and only sees him twice a week, leaving me to pick up the emotional mess my little boy is reduced to every time. I just don’t know how to cope. I have developed some serious health problems as a result, which she saw fit to mock quite unbelievably and am trying really hard to keep myself together but it’s getting harder by the day. I have a great support network, even my husband’s family who have completely disowned him but I feel so lonely and frightened. I never imagined I would end up in a situation like this at this time of my life. My husband has given up EVERYTHING except the clothes on his back to be with this woman who is a horror to look at and surely must have some emotional issues to be behaving as she does and “moving on” so quickly after the death of her husband. My husband no longer has any friends, all have turned their back yet apparently it has all been “worth it” as she gives him lots of “cuddles, kisses and greets him nicely when he comes through the door”. I am not even joking. I am starting counselling this week but with the divorce becoming ever more nasty and awful, I can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel. My husband is also desperate to involve my son with this woman, something I think is totally inappropriate at this stage, especially given her antagonism towards me. I just don’t know which way to turn. Again, apologies for such a long post and believe me, this is the short version. How will I ever recover from all of this and how do I cope with such a vindictive pair especially in relation to my children? I feel like my life is no longer my own ?.

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hotcrossbabblehag · 17/04/2014 11:48

Mrsc you can claim without statementing, they will need statements from his teachers or any other professional who deals with him on a regular basis, but you don't have to collect them, they will get in contact with them for you. Its always worth a go, although you may not be eligible for the mobility part yet as he is so young.

MrsC1969HJ · 17/04/2014 11:53

I didn't realise, I will look into it. I am hoping he is quite low on the spectrum and his behaviour has improved no end since his father left which is quite telling. He still has issues that need addressing though and plenty of them. Thank you so much, I really appreciate that :-)

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MrsC1969HJ · 17/04/2014 18:06

Nearly had a teary meltdown in the supermarket today...I think it's Easter...another "first" to get over. Last year was awful as I was really ill and H took kids to see family, I had no choice but to stay at home. Remember saying that "next year we'll plan something really nice", not even imagining how "next year" would be. I guess this is the last "family orientated" event now until my birthday later this year, which, looking back, I can now see he had already "left" and despite his denials, I am pretty sure was seeing OW at that point. It's silly, the things that upset you! Sad

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hotcrossbabblehag · 17/04/2014 18:31

I think its during the special days that it dawns on you, I found it easier if I made sure I had family and friends around me on special days, I remember a very miserable Christmas morning where ds1 was at his fathers. and another mothering Sunday, until my brother turned up with a bunch of flowers, try and keep yourself as busy as possible, do Easter egg hunts, cook a yummy lamb dinner, invite a single friend round etc etc. try and make new memories and do something different, or try a new tradition to go with your new life. by the time its over you'll be so pooped all you will want to do is relax in the bath with a Wine

CookieDoughKid · 17/04/2014 18:39

Always have a plan on family days and I think grieving is OK. Look at it as getting him out of your system!!

MrsC1969HJ · 17/04/2014 22:46

hotcrossbabblehag..yes it's not easy is it? Have a busy weekend on, just thinking back. It's so difficult getting over these things, tonight I am wondering if I will ever feel normal again. I always get like this when I have to see him, hate it, every second of it. Although he did actually speak to me today and look at me, which is very unusual. Also, I keep remembering bits of odd behaviour and tonight recalled an incident so was looking back through mobile phone. Came across a text he sent me a month after he left, when he had been living with her for a month but was pretending to me he was homeless, he put "OW is a friend but you are threatening her with adultery and that has forced her hand. She has the money to do anything to protect her name and business and she won't stand by while you make comments. OW has said she will see you in court"....it still shocks me to the core reading this shit. They really have no moral compass whatsoever, none. How could you be such a blatant liar and threaten your lover's wife like that?! God, they are unbelievable. My H really had absolutely no idea what he was getting into, gave no thought to any of it, and is probably still completely baffled as to how we have ended up in this situation. I can't believe I still feel anything for him. What is wrong with me?!

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MrsC1969HJ · 17/04/2014 22:50

CookieDoughKid...right at this minute I want to go round there and tell the pair of them what I think of them, stand outside her shop screaming my head off, posting inappropriate things on Facebook, writing to her parents to tell them what a piece of shit their daughter is....I think I might go and do some e-baying instead....:-/

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MrsC1969HJ · 18/04/2014 20:01

So, it's six months today since he walked into the kitchen at 8 in the morning and said "I am leaving you, I don't love you anymore, I am so sorry"...sobbed his heart out, told me that DS was "obviously" going with him and that he was now "going out"....to think I laughed and thought he was bloody joking! You can't leave, I wailed, we've got a baby, a history, a mortgage (still can't believe I said that). God, it feels like five minutes ago. I am still in a world of pain and grief as we all know (and what I would have done without you wonderful lot, I don't know)....so I do have to wonder how the merry widow was so easily able to start a relationship six months after her husband died...because I can't believe she didn't feel at that point what I feel today. Odd. So, I am going to eat chocolate and drink wine and NOT TEXT, NOT EMAIL AND NOT MENTION IT. Wonder how H will be in the morning when he has to pick DS up, as that will be the actual date of leaving. He's probably not even noticed!

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hotcrossbabblehag · 18/04/2014 20:18

he wont have even noticed he's too busy doing chores and mucking out stables, just don't mention it to him at all, he's not worth the breath, it is hard but you will begin to feel normal, I'm not sure when but you will, and then you'll look back on it and realise just how he is, I can't tell you because I don't know him, however I see both my exes in different ways, one is an extremely stupid lanky thing, and the other is a slimy weasel, it took me 6 years to get over the weasel, and then I met a nice bloke who restored my faith in the male population, unfortunately that didn't work out but we are still really good friends, and now I'm with my current partner who is equally lovely if not more so.

it does get better, it just takes time, look how far you've come in the last 6 months, make new memories and traditions it might help. Rely on friends and family, I hope you have a lovely Easter.

springydaffs · 19/04/2014 15:00

He literally refuses to acknowledge what he's done and the affect on his son. It's just mind boggling

It's particularly hard when you're dealing with a sociopath (two? Hmm ) because it's so hard to get your head around. I decided to stop trying to understand because it only boiled my brain and I could do without that on top of everything else. I now think 'whatever' and turn away from yet more incomprehensible shit - which is endless, steaming on endlessly like a train. (Though I have to say that I am still shocked sometimes when I know I shouldn't be. It's the entire lack of humanity that jolts the system somewhat Confused )

I wonder if they're so keen to get DS because of the DLA. It's a handsome and regular sum.

How hilarious that he assumed DS would be coming with him! Deluded, or what (but we knew that).

Keep going lovely. Every day is one day nearer to this whole hideous business washed out of your system. It takes time, and the waiting is difficult, but you're taking steps every day in a myriad ways.

springydaffs · 19/04/2014 15:02

btw WELL DONE for not going ape re the impulse towards unhinged public spectacle. It would have been disastrous for you - on all fronts - but I appreciate how difficult it is to rein it in I once screamed a full hammer horror scream in the street

MrsC1969HJ · 19/04/2014 22:39

Springy...so it seems...I think I need to follow your path, it drives me mad, the "thinking" and trying to rationalise things. I literally CANNOT BELIEVE what he has done, even 6 months on...it's like he's been possessed or something. Yet, still little sprouts of humanity pop up every now and again that make me think he KNOWS...back to that in a min.

I am not sure whether they really want DS for disability...she is wealthy, what they don't want is to admit that they had an affair and he left a child with "special needs"...that is too much for either of them and they definitely don't want that to become public...not with her child related businesses that are so important!

So, today I waved DS off with a box of Thornton's Special Toffee and an Easter card for his father, H loves Special Toffee and I always bought it at Xmas, birthday and Easter...DS comes back today with a box of Lindt chocolates for me...but in the same gift bag that I sent toffee in, with the label written out "to mummy". So, no repeat of Mother's Day fails today! Then son produces a PICTURE of H, who looks like shit with his new hairdo...who gives their 3 year old a picture of themselves to look at?! It has been cut out of a larger picture, no doubt with OW and new son in it. Next, I get a text from H saying "thank you for toffee, was going to get Step DD something but did not know what to do for the best, I hope that one day she will come round"...IS HE FOR REAL?! Hasn't contacted her in six months and cut off her mobile phone without notice and wants a rejected and hurt 15 year old with her own issues to "come round"....deluded much?!

So I responded : "I think best left, she saw an email from OW on my computer dismissing her as not your problem and only the concern of her father, which hurt her deeply"....no response to that.

Anyway, I am OK today, had a lovely day out and am trying not to "think" too much....tomorrow may be different xx

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hotcrossbabblehag · 20/04/2014 00:25

Mrsc fabulous response to his text Grin

I do hope you have a lovely EasterSmile

MrsC1969HJ · 20/04/2014 12:29

Morning everybody and Happy Easter to all!

H has done a very strange thing this morning, copied me in on an email to his solicitor (actually 3 different solicitors, same practice) discharging them from duty and instructing them to no longer respond to my solicitor. As we are literally at the beginning of mediation and still have to get through the actual divorce, I find that a very odd thing to do. He is citing lack of money. I feel very uncomfortable about this...but it also means he is going to have to deal with my solicitor directly...and she's quite hardcore. Any comments?!

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LBZT · 20/04/2014 12:43

not sure mrsc, but what strikes me is, he is trying to get a reaction out of you otherwise why would he cc you in (just a thought but can he now feel you are more distant from him and your initial responses to him are no longer happening, he reminds me of a teenager playing up just to get some attention even if negative or in this case woo is me I have no money) I could be wrong but I sense the beginning of the end for the ow. At least for the next few days ignore and try and enjoy your easter weekend.

MrsC1969HJ · 20/04/2014 12:52

LBZT, hello my lovely, thank you for your response. It is a bit odd isn't it? He really will need legal advice aswell. I am not going to respond. It's Easter Sunday, he will be missing his son I should think, he does do strange things around "dates". I still can't get over him sending son back with a picture of himself yesterday..

Hope you have a lovely day today :-) x

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springydaffs · 20/04/2014 15:06

What a twat. Re picture. Re sacking his lawyers

Let him stew in it lovely. Whatever he's up to, it's no good.

Happy Easter sweetheart Easter Smile Flowers

hotcrossbabblehag · 20/04/2014 15:14

I second what springy says, complete twat.

do have a fab Easter mrsc Smile

MrsC1969HJ · 20/04/2014 15:20

It's such an odd thing to do on Easter Sunday morning! So, no legal rep now...just beyond strange. He has spent £2K on each solicitor so far, this was solicitor no 5. WTF?! This won't help him, in fact it will make things worse I would have thought. Hope you all have a fab Easter too...and thank you for everything, you're all amazing :-) xx

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Clutterbugsmum · 20/04/2014 15:40

I suspect he got rid of them because they won't do/tell him he is right and they have to follow the law.

springydaffs · 20/04/2014 16:06

I'll tell you what: put all this aside. Don't give it another thought. Really, he's messing with your head (and gets off on it I'm sorry to say) so don't give him the satisfaction by letting it get to you and get you thinking, potentially blotting out what should be a lovely relaxing day. yy it has its challenges (not all holidays are 'relaxing' for a lot of people) but be determined to enjoy it to whatever capacity. Which means not giving smelly bollocks another thought.

MrsC1969HJ · 20/04/2014 16:20

Clutterbugsmum....that is why this is solicitor No 5...ridiculous in six months! This won't help him though, quite the opposite.

Springy...Oh I will, it's just so strange. It doesn't bother me, it's up to him what he wants to do but he's not making it easy on himself and it's not going to help him with mediation and when it's put before the court. I think I might have a glass of wine instead :-)

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AcrossthePond55 · 21/04/2014 00:09

Hmmm, perhaps OW is getting tired of footing his bills since he says he's discharging them due to lack of funds. Or perhaps she's told him will 'look better' from a financial standpoint if he's on legal aid & it's the first step in them trying to say her income shouldn't count in figuring maintenance. I'd let your solicitor know asap. People like those two always have an ulterior motive.

Sorry to be a buzz-kill but I wouldn't let my guard down.

MrsC1969HJ · 21/04/2014 00:20

No, you're not AcrossthePond...I am suspicious too. The only thing I will say is that he won't get legal aid, it's no longer available for divorce or "family" law, even I don't quality in my straitened financial state. A few weeks ago it was at "whatever cost"...so this is a bit odd. I have informed solicitor and will wait and see what she says when office reopens on Wednesday. Maybe OW has pulled the plug...maybe something else has come up...however, I am pretty sure this is about appearing to have no money whatsoever to the mediator.

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MrsC1969HJ · 21/04/2014 00:25

Qualify....not quality! Sorry, so tired :-/

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