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How can I improve sex life with dh?

239 replies

lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 07:36

We've been together for three years, married for almost two and since almost the beginning, sex has been a bit of an issue.

I have always had quite a high sex drive and when we first got together we'd have sex quite often.

A few months in, however, it started to tail off, which left me feeling a little hurt. Things came to a head when we moved in together, we had sex regularly for the first couple of weeks, I didn't think anything of it, but one night, dh thew an almighty strop, got angry at me, said couldn't he go to bed just to sleep without being pressured into sex. I didn't realise I was pressuring him. So I backed off.

Sex has always been very one sided. I am not allowed to initiate anything, as he told me it puts him under pressure, so I wait for him. Usually, it's once a week/every ten days when he's in the mood. He never engages in any foreplay, the most he will do is jab his fingers in me for a few minuets (TMI, sorry) until it hurts me so much I just get on with it and have sex to get it over with. He also looks so bored when he's touching me, most of the time he is staring at the telly, so I stop him to stop myself getting upset. Most of the time, I will give him a bj, touch him, kiss him - in part to try and turn myself on so that sex isn't painful, but mainly because if I didn't, sex would just be me on top until he comes.

I have never had an orgasm (not just with him, but with anyone) but I am ashamed to say that I learned many years ago just to fake it so as not to dent a mans delicate little ego.

He never undresses me, I think he's only ever seen me naked a handful of times, which makes me feel like crap.

I have tried everything, dressing up, sex toys (which he laughed at me while using, said I looked ridiculous), not asking for sex, asking for sex (If I ask can we have sex tonight/tomorrow I either get 'oh yeah, of course" and then it doesn't happen, or I get told "if you behave" which makes me feel terrible).

I have tried talking to him so many times. But he either tells me to stop slagging him off (I don't I approach it in a nice way) or he's nasty and tells me that he just doesn't want sex a lot, he'd rather go on his computer.

Oral sex is another big issue. It's the only thing that feels nice to me. When we first got together, he said he liked doing it. Then after a couple of months he stopped, so I left it. A few months later, I asked why he didn't do that to me anymore and he got angry saying he hated it, hated the taste and smell. Again, I felt like shit. He does it sometimes, but again, the other day, same thing. Had him shouting at me saying he hates it, what man could ever like doing that to a woman etc. I've posted about that on here before, and I got told by many 'stop giving him oral sex then'. But if I don't, like I said, sex is just him literally putting his penis in me.

I think he has a really unrealistic view of sex due to the amount of porn he used to watch. He hasn't watched it since we were together, but he openly admitted it ruined his sex life with previous girlfriends, which is why he stopped. His views on sex are very much pornified, all to do with the mans gratification.

I really love him, and I am desperate for some sort of connection and closeness. I don't know what to do. If I try and talk to him, he gets angry and there is a huge argument.

This is my second marriage. I was married to someone else for 9 years and that was totally sexless. For different issues, but I basically didn't have sex for the entirety of my 20's and all I want is a normal sex life.
He thinks we have a wonderful sex life - well, he does. He only gets sex when he wants and when he does I am so pathetically grateful that it's all about him.

I thought he might be gay at one point (I asked him outright, he said he wasn't). He seems to hate my genital area. Hates pubic hair, I have to shave everything off, to the point where I get huge, painful cysts where I get ingrown hairs. It's horrible and painful. He seems to hate my body and I hate my body too now. I've lost all my confidence and I have become so embarrassed about sex. It's now got even more painful as I just tense up and because I have tried so hard to kill my sex drive over the past year so that I don't get frustrated, I find it hard to get turned on. So now it's mostly horrible.

Sorry this is so long, I just don't know what to do anymore. I've tried talking, but how do you talk to someone who just gets angry and defensive?

OP posts:
JoinYourPlayfellows · 08/02/2014 14:53

This man is horrendously abusive towards you, he had said this to completely destroy you.

Yes, he has.

This was calculated to hurt you.

There is literally nothing he could have said that would have hurt you more than this.

And he knows it.

This is your punishment for pushing him and not shutting up in the face of his pathetic "I love you" work e-mails.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 08/02/2014 16:27

Well thank goodness it's over. You don't have to put up with that appalling sex anymore.

It wasn't your fault.

Your son will be fine, better away from this toxic man.

wordfactory · 08/02/2014 16:45

OP, even now he is lying.

It. Is. Not. You.

He is a man who does not find grown women attractive. As I said before, the best you can hope is that he's gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Walk away knowing he is the worst of people and you are going to be far better off without him. As for your DS; he has had a lucky escpape.

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage · 08/02/2014 17:14

Don't be heartbroken. What you thought you had is not the reality.

GimmeDaBoobehz · 08/02/2014 17:26

How is your relationship otherwise?

If it's really good - I'd get a vibrator and use that on yourself and let him deal with himself and if he initiates sex he has to continue it through.

If it's pretty rubbish anyway though I'd just leave him.

Or I'd just leave him anyway, because the first option is just so draining and surely even if he dislikes something he should be willing to put up with it every few weeks just to make you happy - it's hardly hurting him, is it?

WRT to shaving don't bother. If he doesn't want sex with you because you wont shave then ignore the little fucker. Don't ever let yourself be put into pain because he can't get his rocks off.

He either needs to view you differently or go out the door.

I know it's difficult because it's your second marriage but at the end of the day you need to be happy and if you aren't happy, you shouldn't just stay in that situation.

eddielizzard · 08/02/2014 17:26

it is not you. it isn't.

i personally think he is gay. if you're homophobic that doesn't mean you're not gay, just in denial.

good luck. parts of him were lovely but his effect on you was awful and very bad for you.

GimmeDaBoobehz · 08/02/2014 17:46

I'm sorry yet again I didn't realise there was more pages to this thread I should've checked.

He's given you a lucky escape.

Because you don't have the responsibility of chucking him out now and he'll have no grounds to say that you made him leave (not that it would matter anyway).

See if you can rent a flat in the outskirts of London (£500ish a month, I think?) that will accept partial or full housing benefit. As you aren't working, you should be entitled to the full amount and you don't have someone who works living with you anymore, so you don't have any other form of income.

Do you get Jobseekers? Perhaps look into what other benefits you may be entitled to.

I'm really sorry he has been a royal fuckwit but at least you are free now. From the abuse, from the questions, from the not knowing.

He hasn't just hurt you he has hurt your DS, so don't feel bad about not having him around anymore as he hasn't considered you or your DSes feelings in all of this.

lollyj2 · 08/02/2014 18:47

Thanks all.

I am just working out what to say to ds. He will want to see him, despite the faults they were close. I'll have to work out what to do, but we are finished. His dad is coming to pick up his stuff, he's staying rent free with a friend so well have to work out financial stuff.

Had a call from my dads care home today he's in a very bad way so that's more stress I don't need. I have to travel up there tonight.

OP posts:
TheBeautifulVisit · 08/02/2014 19:11

Sorry about your dad, lollyj2.

And I'm very sorry you've been through the mill these last few years with this weirdo. I wouldn't bother digging for info. He doesn't know how to love you the way you want and deserve to be loved. He deserves no more of your time.

Good luck.

LumpySpacePrincessOhMyGlob · 08/02/2014 19:52

So sorry to hear about your dad, it never rains when it can pour eh.

I think in your situation I would tell your son that h no longer wishes to be with you, which is true. It's his deceitful behaviour which is at fault, not yours.

How old is your son?

MostWicked · 08/02/2014 21:25

What an absolute wanker - he is trying to blame you for his own failings.
You are well shot of him, although I understand it is hard at the moment.
Once you have got yourself sorted out, get yourself a few toys and start exploring your own body to find out what you like, then next time you allow a man into your bed, ensure that he treats you like a goddess because that is what you deserve.

MrsPMT · 09/02/2014 11:18

Sorry about your dad

And tbh, you're better off without this man who doesn't care about your feelings.

Wishing you well, there'll be someone out there for you.

Bahhhhhumbug · 09/02/2014 12:27

I might get flamed for this but please don't let him control you through your child if you split up. That will be the only control he will still have over you and boy will he use it ! I wouldn't arrange any access to your son - the way he treated his mother he does not deserve it. Your little boy will soon forget him. Please don't keep an unnecessary link with this man. Do you really want such a toxic person in your sons life? Hope you are ok OP.

Bahhhhhumbug · 09/02/2014 12:30

'He will want to see him' - you see OP already you are dancing to his tune again and worrying about his wants and needs before you even dump him. He has no rights - legally or morally to see your little boy.

AnyFucker · 09/02/2014 12:31

I wouldn't flame you for that, Bahh

Fairenuff · 09/02/2014 12:35

I think OP meant that her ds would want to see him. But I agree that this would not be good for the child.

Bahhhhhumbug · 09/02/2014 12:37

Thank you AF I secretly feel the same way about estranged abusive 'bio' dads even if they have 'never done the children any harm'

Bahhhhhumbug · 09/02/2014 12:39

Oh rightFairenough reading it again I think you are probably right, sorry OP ignore my last post except for the 'no legal or moral rights' bit.

AnyFucker · 09/02/2014 13:21

Ditto

NumptyNameChange · 09/02/2014 13:41

i don't make a secret of it - i advise any woman pregnant to an abusive man to get out, disappear and never ever put his name on the birth certificate. and i do get flamed for it Grin

NettleTea · 09/02/2014 13:44

I agree, dont let your son see him. You havent even been together that long, and he isnt his dad. Plus he has some really wierd sex shit going on that I wouldnt want passed on to a developing boy

AnyFucker · 09/02/2014 13:47

Gosh, NNC, I would agree with you on that one.

Children do not have their lives enhanced by contact with any person that is abusive towards others.

AmIatwat · 09/02/2014 13:48

Look, your son has known this man for what 3 years? Do you want him to be a part of his life for the next 20 plus years?
OP, you are not pregnant are you?

Bahhhhhumbug · 09/02/2014 15:43

He will use your son against you as an excuse to stay in your life , imagine that when you meet someone else for example - that little tosser in the background 'appraising' your new fella.

Hell no. Clean break.

AmIatwat · 09/02/2014 20:13

I have a friend, highly intelligent, she's hooked on a guy who drifts in and out of her life when the mood takes him. He is a total shit and he is horrible to her son. But she cannot get this vile creature out of her head, I've known him for 15 years, I warned her too.
Please erase this evil waste of space from your life forever. Thing of him as being carcinogenic, Would you want your child to be a drug addict? Of course not! Your lad has a father and you need to be more focused on your and your child's future. When the clouds have lifted, you might be in a better place to find a decent lover worthy of your love.