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How can I improve sex life with dh?

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lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 07:36

We've been together for three years, married for almost two and since almost the beginning, sex has been a bit of an issue.

I have always had quite a high sex drive and when we first got together we'd have sex quite often.

A few months in, however, it started to tail off, which left me feeling a little hurt. Things came to a head when we moved in together, we had sex regularly for the first couple of weeks, I didn't think anything of it, but one night, dh thew an almighty strop, got angry at me, said couldn't he go to bed just to sleep without being pressured into sex. I didn't realise I was pressuring him. So I backed off.

Sex has always been very one sided. I am not allowed to initiate anything, as he told me it puts him under pressure, so I wait for him. Usually, it's once a week/every ten days when he's in the mood. He never engages in any foreplay, the most he will do is jab his fingers in me for a few minuets (TMI, sorry) until it hurts me so much I just get on with it and have sex to get it over with. He also looks so bored when he's touching me, most of the time he is staring at the telly, so I stop him to stop myself getting upset. Most of the time, I will give him a bj, touch him, kiss him - in part to try and turn myself on so that sex isn't painful, but mainly because if I didn't, sex would just be me on top until he comes.

I have never had an orgasm (not just with him, but with anyone) but I am ashamed to say that I learned many years ago just to fake it so as not to dent a mans delicate little ego.

He never undresses me, I think he's only ever seen me naked a handful of times, which makes me feel like crap.

I have tried everything, dressing up, sex toys (which he laughed at me while using, said I looked ridiculous), not asking for sex, asking for sex (If I ask can we have sex tonight/tomorrow I either get 'oh yeah, of course" and then it doesn't happen, or I get told "if you behave" which makes me feel terrible).

I have tried talking to him so many times. But he either tells me to stop slagging him off (I don't I approach it in a nice way) or he's nasty and tells me that he just doesn't want sex a lot, he'd rather go on his computer.

Oral sex is another big issue. It's the only thing that feels nice to me. When we first got together, he said he liked doing it. Then after a couple of months he stopped, so I left it. A few months later, I asked why he didn't do that to me anymore and he got angry saying he hated it, hated the taste and smell. Again, I felt like shit. He does it sometimes, but again, the other day, same thing. Had him shouting at me saying he hates it, what man could ever like doing that to a woman etc. I've posted about that on here before, and I got told by many 'stop giving him oral sex then'. But if I don't, like I said, sex is just him literally putting his penis in me.

I think he has a really unrealistic view of sex due to the amount of porn he used to watch. He hasn't watched it since we were together, but he openly admitted it ruined his sex life with previous girlfriends, which is why he stopped. His views on sex are very much pornified, all to do with the mans gratification.

I really love him, and I am desperate for some sort of connection and closeness. I don't know what to do. If I try and talk to him, he gets angry and there is a huge argument.

This is my second marriage. I was married to someone else for 9 years and that was totally sexless. For different issues, but I basically didn't have sex for the entirety of my 20's and all I want is a normal sex life.
He thinks we have a wonderful sex life - well, he does. He only gets sex when he wants and when he does I am so pathetically grateful that it's all about him.

I thought he might be gay at one point (I asked him outright, he said he wasn't). He seems to hate my genital area. Hates pubic hair, I have to shave everything off, to the point where I get huge, painful cysts where I get ingrown hairs. It's horrible and painful. He seems to hate my body and I hate my body too now. I've lost all my confidence and I have become so embarrassed about sex. It's now got even more painful as I just tense up and because I have tried so hard to kill my sex drive over the past year so that I don't get frustrated, I find it hard to get turned on. So now it's mostly horrible.

Sorry this is so long, I just don't know what to do anymore. I've tried talking, but how do you talk to someone who just gets angry and defensive?

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lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 13:54

I am debating leaving as it's not that easy.

We rent. It's in both our names and we are tied in until November. I am also not working at the moment as I can't find a job (despite applying for everything going). So it's not like I can just pack his bags and tell him to go.

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Offred · 07/02/2014 13:56

Could you stay with your parents?

AmIatwat · 07/02/2014 13:57

He's a misogynist, he's not going to change either.
I agree with Offred; go to women's aid asap, before you are so completely ground down that you lose any hope of there being any future happiness for you and your son.
If you were to leave today, think about what life could be like in 12 months time. A new flat, a new job, friends, freedom to be the person you deserve to be.

Offred · 07/02/2014 13:57

See what women's aid suggest? They often, in the local orgs, will have comprehensive services to help with housing and finances etc

Offred · 07/02/2014 14:00

It is never easy to leave btw. We all understand that, psychologically difficult, practical issues aside. Women's aid wouldn't jump in and pull you out. They are there to help support women who are in/have had abusive relationships. In my group sessions several of the women were still with their partners and every single one of us felt we didn't deserve the help because things weren't that bad.

CailinDana · 07/02/2014 14:02

If you're hoping he'll realise how horrible he's been or say sorry you will be sorely disappointed. You said earlier sex was your only issue but now it's clear that he puts you down in other ways such as berating you for not talking, blaming you for issues with your ex and saying spending time with you is boring. He is just an all round nasty bastard. He will never acknowledge how much he's hurt you.

He has totally messed with your mind by telling you one thing then doing another. All he cares about is keeping you in your place. He does not care about you, at all.

lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 14:05

offered my parents are elderly, I was a very late surprise! They are both in homes, one with dementia, the other is frail with terminal cancer. No sibling and no friends to stay with so I am a bit screwed really.

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Offred · 07/02/2014 14:06

You can do the freedom programme online but it isn't a substitute for real life support from WA.

Offred · 07/02/2014 14:07

So really you're probably best trying to stay in your home and getting him to leave. You should get some housing benefit etc and you would definitely need WA support to be able to do that.

TheBeautifulVisit · 07/02/2014 14:07

Screwed is exactly what you are not. Grin

lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 14:08

I have had womans aid details for a while.

Yes, of course I am secretly hoping that i'll talk to him and he'll have some sort of epiphany and suddenly realise he's a bastard and change. I don't think id be human if i didn't have that hope.

But i know how it will end, it will be him turning it round and shouting at me.

Ds is away at his dads house from after school until sunday night, so he wont be here to witness anything.

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Offred · 07/02/2014 14:09

You are married so legally he has a duty to financially support you, are you getting child support from your son's father?

lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 14:09

TheBeautifulVisit Grin wasn't really the best turn of phrase to use, was it?!

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lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 14:10

Yes, my son's father pays maintenance for him. But he's self employed so fiddles things so he pays the bare minimum, despite actually being loaded.

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Offred · 07/02/2014 14:14

You could get spousal support from your current h (this shouldn't affect benefits if it is up to a certain amount per week), tax credits, housing benefit and any child support won't be taken into account. Could you talk to CAB about that and see if it is possible to stay in the flat?

Also, could you visit your GP because evidence from the GP that you are suffering a psychological illness as a result of the abuse should entitle you to legal aid for the divorce?

All these things might seem too much to you right now if you're still hoping to fix it, which is normal yes, but in the current political climate I think it's important to be aware and from what you describe you are certainly suffering.

lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 14:17

I already put feelers out to the council a couple of weeks ago.

We already claim housing benefit as we live in London - DHs entire wage is less than the rent. The estate agent wont take one tenets name off the tenancy either, meaning i coulnt claim HB as a single person, his name would still be on the flat too.

It's a tricky situation. I have been looking into the possibility of leaving, it's difficult.

He doesn't earn enough to pay spousal support as well as rent himself a place and live even if he could move out.

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Offred · 07/02/2014 14:21

Eee... Tough but I think not irresolvable if you get some proper advice. He may still have to pay some support if you have no income even if he would need top up benefits himself but I don't know. You could try CAB, they would go through all of that with you and if they don't know the answers they should know who will.

lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 14:23

I've been to the CAB, had a free hour with two solicitors, been to see my estate agent, the council, had advice from shelter....I did that all a few weeks ago and had them all scratching their heads trying to work out this dead end for me! Sometimes leaving is just really, really difficult.

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AmIatwat · 07/02/2014 14:25

Have you no friends at all you could stay with?
I think now you have opened the emotional floodgates there is no going back.

lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 14:27

No, I literally don't know anyone.

It's not because of DH or anything, I have just never been good with people so I've never had proper friends. Just work colleagues/aqauintances but I don't know anyone anymore.

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lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 14:28

He has his parents but they are 300 miles away. He can't just up and leave his job and he has no one to stay with here.

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LilyBlossom14 · 07/02/2014 14:34

I don't think spousal maintenance is that common really - child maintenance yes, spousal no.

Offred · 07/02/2014 14:39

Spousal maintenance is not uncommon when one spouse is not working although it isn't usual for it to be ordered for the long term.

Lolly - I appreciate what you're saying, it does sound really really tough.

Sorry if I'm making stupid suggestions you've already thought about. What about moving somewhere there might be more work/cheaper housing?

lollyj2 · 07/02/2014 14:41

I really don't want to out myself as my ex found a thread I wrote about moving before.

But there are custody conditions which prevent me from moving out of the city I am in, and all areas surrounding are still very expensive.

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Offred · 07/02/2014 14:58

Sounds an utter nightmare, would it be possible to get him to leave the current flat?

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