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Is it me, him, us, or just life?

112 replies

DuskAndShiver · 01/02/2014 15:57

I am not well today and pretty run down in general and feeling absolutely devastated about the state of my relationship, or non-relationship, with dp.
A few things have thrown his lack of interest in me into stark relief recently.
today he is so cold to me. I begged him to take the children this morning to let me lie in, I am trembling and feverish. He did, but at 9 after I had been with them since 7.30 and only because I begged him to. His response to this was very cold. No sympathy at all. but he did agree to look after them.
I always get up at the weekends. I leave in the week before he gets up and he has to do all the child stuff on his own. I think he feels like a martyr because of this even though the reason why I am not helping is because I am physically not able to be there and he has already had an extra half hour's sleep. for some reason this means he never gets up when the kids wake on Saturday and Sunday.

Anyway he hasn't asked how I am or even actually really looked me in the eye.
I don't have anyone to talk to and overthink a lot.
today I was thinking that maybe that is just how we are, how he is. he doesn't have to be all hearts and flowers all the time.
but as soon as I got up and saw him I just felt hollow and awful. the lack of respect, affection, anything, acknowledgment, anything, it is really wearing me down. "Oh you're up!" with a smile - anything - even if followed by "Oh good you can give me a hand with...."

I am feeling awful so I am losing all perspective. I want to leave him right now. Some days I hate him.

we do not sleep together. He doesn't talk to me much. usually he doesn't answer if I send him emails during the day from work. When I get home from work he is bathing the kids and I say hello to them and have to dance about in his face, practically, to get his attention to say hello to me

I think a lot of this is just how he is; a lot of it is that he resents me for working long hours and he thinks he has a hard life with so much of the childcare (I do not have a choice with work, I get home the second I can and even still I work hours after dcs' bathtime, at home); some of this is surely down to how I am , but I don't know what or how to change

feeling utterly shit about everything right now. Old and tired and desperate. Wondering what can be done. honestly I think nothing. I can't imagine ever having fun again

what is normal?

we have been together 10 years this spring. I was so happy when I met him and then later he laughed at me so often about things I said and did on our first dates that I can't even look happily back at that time, I just feel like a dickhead

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Logg1e · 01/02/2014 16:56

Although if you do it now he'll probably be considered the children's main carer.

Which he is.

JoinYourPlayfellows · 01/02/2014 16:56

If he's physically abusive then you need to think about getting out and taking your children with you.

DuskAndShiver · 01/02/2014 16:57

not very often. Only occasionally but he has never apologised or acknowledged that he has done it

If I had been on mn for a while before I had met him I would not have got into this relationship. I had 2 terrible relationships before I met him and no one told me I was treated like crap. when I met him I loved that he was clever, in work, polite, interesting and funny and I thought all my dreams had come true. But quite soon he started putting me down in "funny" ways, and I started feeling quite desperate for affection. I lost touch with all my old friends as my ex was friends with them all and I felt uncomfortable. I have been lonely all my life really so this is why I make bad choices. Now I have two children and it's harder to make changes. but if I had had anyone to talk to in my 20s and 30s, someone to say how things could be, I wouldn't be here now.

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DuskAndShiver · 01/02/2014 16:59

He is not the children's main carer. The children live with both of their parents who work full time in the week, and go to a CM in work hours. His work hours are a bit shorter than mine. He is not their main carer. He has absolutely never, for instance, cut finger nails or toe nails. he does not get up in the night. I do dd1's reading books with her, I have taught her to cross-stitch. I am the one who gets down on the floor with the train set with dd2. He is not their main carer.

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mammadiggingdeep · 01/02/2014 17:00

I hear you about not being in the relationship if you'd had MN. DEFINATELY same here.

I actually don't think he is the main carer. Both work full time- one does drop off and pick up. How does this make them the main carer??

He's checked out of your relationship- that's why he won't engage in conversations about your life....

jellycake · 01/02/2014 17:00

Imo one occassion of physical abuse is more than enough!

DuskAndShiver · 01/02/2014 17:00

Logg1e, what is your problem with me?

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mammadiggingdeep · 01/02/2014 17:01

I agree. A main carer is more than bloody pick up and drop off, which I'm sure you'd actually like to be doing.

Logg1e · 01/02/2014 17:01

Do you think that your post at 16:57 is the actual first post of this thread?

mammadiggingdeep · 01/02/2014 17:01

Dusk....ignore unhelpful posters...concentrate on those of us who want to help...

DuskAndShiver · 01/02/2014 17:02

what do you mean?

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Logg1e · 01/02/2014 17:02

Cross-posted with, what is your problem with me?

I don't have a problem with you.

JoinYourPlayfellows · 01/02/2014 17:02

"Not very often" = multiple incidences of physical abuse.

You should contact Women's Aid.

TBH it sounds like he abuses you very badly emotionally too.

Don't be worried about your situation not being "bad enough" - that's what a lot women seem to think when they are living it.

mammadiggingdeep · 01/02/2014 17:02

Logg1e....why are you being so unhelpful?

DuskAndShiver · 01/02/2014 17:04

I can't contact Women's Aid. I don't need their help in the sense of fleeing to a refuge or something. I have to work out how to live the whole of the rest of my life

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mammadiggingdeep · 01/02/2014 17:04

Being ignored and having affection withdrawn is emotionally abusive.

I've never felt as lonely as when I lived with my ex and he would ignore me. Remember chucking up once when I was preg...he totally ignored it...as if it hadnt happened.

jellycake · 01/02/2014 17:04

Logg1e isn't being unhelpful - she's actually made some good points if you read back over the post.

DuskAndShiver · 01/02/2014 17:04

I don't understand the question about "actual first post of the thread"?

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mammadiggingdeep · 01/02/2014 17:05

Can you leave him? Do you want to?

Logg1e · 01/02/2014 17:05

If this, what do you mean? was aimed at me, I meant does your post at 16:57 get closer to the crux of this situation? That actually the problem in your relationship is to with him physically abusing you, putting you down, stone-walling you etc rather than the demands on your (plural) lifestyle putting strain on a relationship?

Logg1e · 01/02/2014 17:07

OP, I have to work out how to live the whole of the rest of my life

This just sounds so desperately sad and more about surviving the rest of your life rather than truly living it. You sound as though you feel trapped by circumstances in the relationship. It doesn't have to be like that.

mammadiggingdeep · 01/02/2014 17:07

Suggesting she talk to him is unhelpful. I'm pretty sure she's tried. Unless you've lived with a person who is refusing to communicate you can't imagine how difficult "talking" is

DuskAndShiver · 01/02/2014 17:08

I am finding logg1e unhelpful because - as someone else posted on another thread once - "talk to him" is not a solution. If you are in a relationship with a person where you can sit down and talk to the person and agree a solution, you do not have a problem in the first place. do you think that has not occurred to me?

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Logg1e · 01/02/2014 17:10

Mamma my advice to talk to him was when this was a discussion about two people trapped in an unhappy situation and before the disclosure of physical abuse and him shutting down any communication.

DuskAndShiver · 01/02/2014 17:11

But I don't know if it is all about the relationship. Maybe I could leave and then find I was still utterly miserable and lonely in a much smaller flat with a lot of complicated childcare / access hassles. Maybe I just don't know how to live. the work will still be too much, the money still won't go far enough, I still won't have anyone on my side. I will still have health problems and no time to deal with them

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