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The Dating Thread 68.

999 replies

Bant · 13/01/2014 23:45

Support for everyone, dating online or in real life.

No judginess, no shoutiness. Nuff said.

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Mollymom · 30/01/2014 09:34

One-day that's a good way of looking at it-I am indeed the prize! It's frustrating that they say one thing but do another-it's plain rude!! Especially from men in their 40's......bah! Onwards and upwards I guess

HelloBoys · 30/01/2014 09:56

One Day - no problems, yes butterflies.

It's been very intense from about 1st/2nd week of meeting - we're both quite intense and impatient so I am sort of expecting burnout.

I suppose with him staying at mine a bit I am sort of thinking that I have to clean, tidy etc and he would be happy to move in with me soon but I am not ready for that. Also and I know it sounds petty I am slightly irked that I haven't stayed at his place yet and he hasn't made an effort to tidy.

OneDay - I am like your post today - when I see him it is all very much can't wait etc but I'm now impatient over this one issue.

Ivedunnit · 30/01/2014 15:56

Ok met dadof3boys yesterday for coffee , nice guy but very busy as his boys live with him full time. We have been texting back and forth.
2nd date tonight with separateddadof4. Last met on Saturday night and have been texting non stop since. He invited me to his place but have said no as I could see where that would go ....

There is a definite spark! But so much baggage ! He is currently back living with his dad! Is this how life is to be ?

Whats the rules on DTD ?
I am reading a lot of positive thoughts books and have decied this time round things are going to be on my terms ! And they will be good !

You all give me hope and I love reading all of your updates !

dontcallmehon · 30/01/2014 17:24

dunnit I know a lot of people think you should wait before DTD if you want something long term. But, I DTD with geeky on date 2 and that seems to be working out. He was my first (hopefully last) new partner in 12 years as well, so it was not planned at all.

Oneday it sounds as if things are still going very well!

girliefriend · 30/01/2014 18:44

I don't think there are rules on dtd as such, just obv make sure when you do 'dtd' it feels right. Fwiw me and smallfeet had been going out about 6 weeks or so and it felt right for me.

ALittleStranger · 30/01/2014 21:38

I don't think there are any rules. I do think though that dating is about getting to know someone. Either one of you is entitled to realise at any point that it's not working and call it off. Or worst case scenario you might discover something really intolerable about each other and want to run away. Some people seem to find rejection much harder to bear after DTD, so for those people I think there can be value in waiting to see if they and the other person actually like each other. But on the other hand I think sexual compatibility is very important.

I do have some male friends who admit that they see women who have sex very quickly as not long-term material, but personally I don't see someone who judges someone that way as a suitable partner either!

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OneDayWhenIGrowUp · 30/01/2014 23:30

I'm excited for me too haha!!! Had such little sleep last night I was glad of a break this afternoon I had to have a nap. Am cooking for us tomorrow night....will throw something in the slow cooker during my lunch break. Fingers crossed it turns out alright.

dunnit I agree with Stranger's post, although it is really difficult to maintain that kind of perspective when you're caught up in the emotions. There are no hard-and-fast rules (Wink haha) re dtd; just mutual respect, be safe, and enjoy! Last night with Niceguy was 4th date and known each other 10 days; maybe a little soon, but it felt right as the date was 'ending' to invite him back, and turns out we are very compatible in the bedroom so he just keeps on ticking boxes.

Jarlin definite step forward....! How far away is wedding? I do like one of Barney's rules from How I Met Your Mother; don't plan things further in advance than the amount of time you've been together. Probably not practical in all situations though.

Bant · 31/01/2014 01:05

Evening. I decided to get off the sofa and start trying OD again after a bit of a break. A few conversations so far but no ones really lighting my fire.

Regarding the DTD rules, there are none, apart from don't read commitment into it. Do it if you want to, but it doesn't generally reinforce men's feelings the way it (apparently) can for women, which can cause confusion and upset.

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HelloBoys · 31/01/2014 09:38

Bant - I know I met my current boyfriend online (would prefer to meet IRL) but why don't you try speed dating or real life meeting people?

I much prefer that to what's on a screen.

OneDayWhenIGrowUp · 31/01/2014 15:07

Bant, Hello has an idea there. Granted my speed dating experiences have been mixed!!! But I did meet Niceguy there and it was little different from meeting in a bar and just getting chatting, allowing the instant chemistry & spark to reveal itself, without the first date awkwardness.

Ivedunnit · 31/01/2014 16:43

Oh loving this ! met separateddadof4 last night and he was full of the cold. So much so he ended up going home after an hour or so. But not before we had a snog. So that was nice ! I take on board all you are saying about DTD. I agree that I should know him a wee bit better ! IMHO I would say he is MR right now.
He has definitely started me itching for something ! Smile
Jarlin I think it is lovely that he has invited you to a wedding ! That will be great fun and the texting has picked up!
oneday I like that thought on planning! Noted !
Hope everyone has a smashing weekend

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OneDayWhenIGrowUp · 01/02/2014 14:03

Dessert was very enjoyable Wink. This is actually a loo update as we're spending the day pottering around town together and currently at an art gallery, ahead of planned actual dinner & show date tonight, it's all just rolled into one. It's all really quite romantic and I think I'm going to have to focus fairly hard to keep my feet on the ground and retain a practical perspective on things! Only known him 2 weeks!

TheOriginalNutcracker · 01/02/2014 17:40

Hi all, can I ask which sites you are all using ??

I'm on POF and Smooch but I don't have much luck tbh. Been single(ish) for 8 years and i'm frankly bored of it now.

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dontcallmehon · 02/02/2014 15:27

It appears there may be trouble in paradise. I am starting to realise why so many of geeky's ex-girlfriends were horrible to him. He is so bloody irritating!

He is a perfectionist. About everything. He likes neat, orderly environments, straight lines, no noise. The dc irritate him a little, I think - because he hates mess and noise, but I figured that would just take time. He likes his girlfriends to be a size 8-10 ideally and a size 14 is too big for him (he told me this after I'd asked him directly). I fulfil that criteria - but it just seems too shallow/perfectionist again. All his clothes are really expensive, he likes excellent quality and everything has to be just so.

He is very emotional, but struggles to talk about his feelings. Unfortunately, my mind reading thing that I have with geeky means that I always know what he is thinking, even when it's not good.

My dd, 6, woke up last night and got into bed next to me. Geeky was on the other side and then lay awake all night because he couldn't sleep. I was asleep - but he didn't wake me to move dd or anything. He just had no sleep and has been grumpy today.

Another thing is - he lives a two hour bus drive from me, but 20 minutes in the car. If he's staying over, he's started getting the bus. I asked he why today and he said he just felt like it. I think he doesn't like leaving his car overnight on my street. I have a HUGE drive - but he won't park in it, even though I've said he can. My street is perfectly nice and safe. My car got keyed once - just a random thing - so maybe that's why. But he doesn't talk about these things and I don't understand him.

I just struggle to see how he'll fit into my chaotic, noisy little family.

Bant · 02/02/2014 19:01

Evening everyone.

I tried Speed dating, it was depressing. I'm picky - or selective - when it comes to women I want to chat to. Meeting 18 women in one 3 hour period where it was just.. tumbleweed.

No chemistry, no spark, no attraction, no friendly chat. Again and again. I look for quirkiness, a connection, a nice smile, a wry comment. Interesting is very important to me. Not well-traveled, or successful in mountain climbing, or model looks. Interesting and funny.

And I didn't find that at speed dating. So it was just a string of tired, repetitive 'hello-my-name-is-x-what-do-you-do-for-a-living', time after time, for 3 minutes. But then some of them fancied me, and giggled the whole time. Seriously, the whole time. And one of them was a model of some sort and was just dismissive and dull.

So, no. So much depression compacted into multiple 3 minute slots. Not much fun. Real life, my social group is younger than me because of my living circumstances and I'm one of those weird blokes who doesn't particularly want to date trophy girlfriends with something to say, but someone with life experience and informed views.

Dontcallmehon - it looks like the honeymoon period is over. But to be fair, you say Geeky has to fit into your chaotic life, isn't it more realistic that you have to change your life a bit to fit into his less chaotic life? I mean, it should be 50/50? If he's intransigent, that's bad. But if he's trying to adapt and not adapting quickly enough for you, then could you be patient? It seems like a fairytale in lots of other ways (although I think Paris is smelly and too full of yappy dogs, myself Grin )

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SoftKittyWarmKitty · 02/02/2014 19:02

Dont that all sounds a little bit...concerning, I'd say. The size thing would worry me for a start - what happens if you put weight on somewhere down the line? Did you ask why he couldn't sleep with your DD in the bed? The bus thing is utterly crazy too. You've said he's irritating and you struggle to see how he'll fit into your lives and tbh, I can see why. Maybe have a good long think about whether he's right for you (and your family).

FolkGirl · 02/02/2014 19:49

Oh dear dont, that doesn't sound great Sad.

I've spent another lovely weekend with the man I'm seeing and after 3+ months I've come away still feeling like I don't really know what it is!

He tells me he really likes me, he's very attentive and lovely to me but I can't help but think he'd be like that with anyone he liked. I don't doubt that he 'likes' me, but have no idea how he sees us.

I don't know whether I'm getting too hung up on the fact that we haven't actually discussed being 'boyfriend and girlfriend' or whatever.

I'm sure that if you saw us together, we'd tick all the right boxes but there's just something niggling me and I don't know what it is; whether it's me or whether it's him.

girliefriend · 02/02/2014 20:08

Hi everyone, oh dear dont that would worry me tbh - all of those things Sad like soft said what happens if you put on weight?The bus thing is just weird but I can understand why he might feel uncomfortable with your dd in the bed, that would make me feel uncomfortable - i would have prob told smallfeet to go home at that point!! Also he does sound quite ocd which I would find annoying.

Smallfeet is on his way over now, he has made me a cheesecake Grin yum. I think I annoyed him ystd as cancelled a date due to having a bad headache so he is coming over tonight instead. I still feel unsure most of the time but when we are together we get on really well Confused

OhWesternWind · 02/02/2014 20:17

Oh Don't I can't believe things have changed so quickly, you seemed so in love in Paris. Do you think it was just a bad night?

To be fair, I think Bant has a point that you both need to make accommodation for the other one. It's all about seeing how your lives can fit together and if there's a willingness to do that. Hope you can get over this together.

FolkGirl · 02/02/2014 20:44

Oh bugger.

I emailed him when I got home to say I'd had a lovely weekend but that I couldn't help coming away feeling like I still wasn't sure what this all was...

He's just replied, but I can't bring myself to open the email. I've just got that cold, lurching, sick feeling in my stomach instead Sad

God, I'm not very good at all this, am I?!

I think I need to continue with this counselling and be on my own for a while longer. This dating lark is causing me more stress than it's worth and I largely suspect I'm bringing most of it upon myself...

MadeMan · 02/02/2014 21:03

"He likes his girlfriends to be a size 8-10 ideally and a size 14 is too big for him..."

Isn't size 16 now the national average woman size in the UK? I'm no Gok Wan, but I'm pretty sure sizing changes depending on which shops you go into for clothes. I know some women who tell me that they can be a size 14 top in one shop and then a size 18 top in another. Or a size 12 top and size 16 bottom in the same shop.