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Bewildered and confused

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bewilderedagain · 08/09/2013 08:40

Am so confused and bewildered (again) that I could use some support in helping me see the wood from the trees.

I have been with my DP just over 6 years. We live together and our dcs are both grown up and live elsewhere.

95% of the time our relationship is great, He is understanding, funny, kind, loyal etc, etc.

Except when we row.

Rows used to be very infrequent....about 3 a year at most if that.

In the last 6 weeks I can count at least 4. If I give you just an example of last nights you might be able to give me some perspective.

Started over something really stupid (don't they all?) Wanted a Chinese takeaway, usual one wasn't taking orders so looked online and found another and ordered.

Messed about...order arrived 1 hr 20 mins later after 3 phone calls....arrived in bag which had spilt the food everywhere so that was the end of that.

Annoying but not the end of the world. I offered to make bacon sandwiches to be told 'fuck that I'll go and get a takeaway myself". I told him quite calmly that if he did that I would be calling the police as he would be over the limit. ( The simple reason neither of us went out earlier to collect was that we had a drink. Not a lot but enough to be over the limit. He has never ever thought it would be ok to ride his motorbike after drinking)

He then yelled at me to phone another place and he would walk and pick it up. I have told him recently that I won't respond if he shouts at me and that as such he could phone them himself.

Then followed a barrage of shouting at me telling me I'm just like all woman in that I needle and wind him up and then ask innocently "what have I done wrong?"

I genuinely did not know what I had done wrong and when I tried to talk to him was met "oh just fuck off!" several times. His face was absolutely contorted with rage.

He then proceeded to tell me that I had rowed with him earlier in the day and "why wouldn't I just bloody listen" Plumber came out, made boiler situation worse...ok now we need to sort out. Not a problem. The plumber had told him all sorts of things couldn't be done and we would need a new radiator. DP says he thinks that is bullshit and he will speak to his boss (Knowledgeable) and ask him. I asked a few questions about why couldn't we do this or that just to try to understand. I then said ok shall we call British Gas and we agreed we would. Sorted. No raised voices, no frustration just a conversation (in my head) Later in the evening he was shouting that I had argued with him about this..."you never bloody listen, you always have to bloody argue" There wasn't an argument! There really wasn't. I remember...I was there.

It isn't the first time he's accuse me of arguing when I merely wanted clarification about something and to ask some questions (I work with people I don't understand the ins and outs of machines around the home etc.)

This might sound trivial but it is making me very uneasy.
Am I forgetting things? Did we have a row and I really can't remember it? Is it a row if I ask questions? I wasn't saying I know better (I don't)

I asked him to tell me what I had said that he thought was me arguing, mainly so I could actually see what he was getting at. He told me to "fuck off and leave him alone " and sneered "of course you never do anything wrong do you?" Well obviously that's not the case but on this occasion I am genuinely bewildered.

So, I get accused of arguing but when I try to ask what I said that he perceived as arguing (because that would actually help) I get told to fuck off and shut up.

I think this has now happened once too often and that we are through which breaks my heart.

Am I over thinking it?
Perhaps it's not really that bad?

Please can anyone help me see what might be happening?

I am genuinely bewildered

Thanks

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bewilderedagain · 09/09/2013 06:51

Thank you all for your support....it is really helping me.
BalloonSlayer he does know my usual username but not this one Wink

NamelessMcNally yes he does know the history with my mother. Some years ago he promised never to ignore me after a row because of this. This is just as bad...it could be quite triggering but am trying not to go there.

jagdkuh I'm really genuinely interested in why you think someone working in MH should not be on ADs. I think that would be an interesting discussion. Can you explain please?

lisylisylou I have reached a decision and I simply will now not talk to him unless he is prepared to discuss in a calm and rational way . He either talks and we try and sort it once and for all or it really is over.
I have never ever ignored anyone but I really am at a loss what to do otherwise.

Today am going to look into having a loft ladder fitted (am fed up of having to rely on him to go into the loft to get things I need) Usually we would discuss as he is knowledgeable about things like this. As I seemingly can't ask questions as it is taken as arguing I shall go ahead and arrange myself.

Thanks again for all your replies. I have a feeling I may be posting for a while Sad

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Vivacia · 09/09/2013 08:04

I'm sure people will be hear to listen, advise and support.

MissManaged · 09/09/2013 08:22

Another day, and I hear an even stronger voice.
Well done!
Prepare yourself for the fallout from the loft-ladder; I think it is a brilliant next move as it clearly demonstrates that you are perfectly capable of organising, arranging, and executing. It puts you back to being who you are - needing no permission or guidance to do anything you wish.
Any conversation needs to start from there - or nowhere.

jagdkuh why on earth would you think that those working in MH (and bear in mind that covers everyone from porters and aides, through nurses & physiotherapists, to psychiatrists) should be immune to health issues or be required not to work if they have them? Depression is one of the most common illnesses of our time. If the inference is that depression = unfit to practice a profession within the MH system, then you have a very limited understanding of MH.

LemonDrizzled · 09/09/2013 08:30

jagdkuh has been popping up a lot this weekend posting provocative views. It will get bored soon.

Good luck OP you sound like a lovely person

turbochildren · 09/09/2013 08:31

Bewildered, that sounds like a good plan. I'm shuddering when you say he wont say what you've done to cause him to yell at you, and then the "threat" to film you so you can see just how bad you are. That is red flags waving in a strong wind. My x was very similar, but being an idiot he did just that (filmed). I showed the police, though my reason was for something else, and the fact that his behaviour is on tape has made it worse for him...That's an aside, but my point is that it's a part of the arsenal he is using against you, as it makes his behaviour sound more valid. If anyone else saw it they would see a reasonable person driven to distraction by an arse. For you it makes you afraid what it is with you that is so bad you don't realise it yourself, but the filming threat implies it's plain for everyone else. Which it isn't, it's just him being mr dickhead.
Hm, hope that made sense!
Chorusing with Missmanaged: well done!

bewilderedagain · 09/09/2013 08:47

Good morning
MissManaged as well as sorting out the loft ladder I am sorting out British Gas to come next week and sort boiler. We were supposed to be going camping on Wed, beautiful spot right on cliff tops in IOW. Well come hell or high water I am still going. I am the first to admit that I would not know where to begin with putting our great big tent up. However, I am sure even I could fling a pop up tent on the ground....just searching camping shops as we speak :)

turbochildren could perhaps buy a video camera at same time as tent and tell him to fill his boots!

I am so angry now. This is unusual as usually am a pathetic mess by now.

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bewilderedagain · 09/09/2013 08:51

LemonDrizzled I would welcome jagdkuh back for a discussion....somehow I don't think it will happen :)

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bewilderedagain · 09/09/2013 10:13

jagdkuh believe me the ads are doing me a lot of favours. I would go as far as to say they have probably saved my life.

I am also managing my own mental health very well thank you.

You seem concerned that I am working in MH whilst on ads. I am genuinely curious as to why this is. Can you expand a little please?

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Jagdkuh · 09/09/2013 11:58

Right, so you're saying your mh was at the state that you contemplated suicide.

Vivacia · 09/09/2013 12:34

Being on antidepressants is managing your mental health. I get the feeling that there's some back story to your unkind comments Jagdkuh but by your line of reasoning, a doctor shouldn't treat patients if she's taking paracetamol for a headache.

turbochildren · 09/09/2013 13:25

yes, jagdkuh, does only perfectly super healthy people get to treat others? (If that is what the op does) Or are you trying to insinuate that someone is "flawed"?
You are entitled to your opinion, but it is a bit rubbish. Coming back from the brink of suicide (again, if that is the case here) is sign of monumental strenght (no pun intended).

bewilderedagain · 09/09/2013 13:35

I've asked you to expand on why you think someone with mental health issues (which they are managing extremely well) should not work in the mental health field.

So if my GP has high blood pressure.....he/she should not treat me for my high blood pressure?

I'm not sure what you are getting at and you seem not to want to expand so I won't keep pushing.

I hope if there is some underlying reason for your stance, that you are ok.

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Jagdkuh · 09/09/2013 16:21

Why stop there? a heroin addict leading a rehab programme. an active alcoholic chairing an aa meeting. you get the idea.. we can all make silly suggestions, can't we? care work depends on your mentality. you go into work with a positive, can do attitude, and your client reaps the rewards. your specific work revolves around mh. you think it is ok to take a.ds and still carry out your duty? you say you are ok.. well, this topic that you created directly contradicts that. why should your state of mind impact on your clients. perhaps you are different on your a.ds. taking a.ds after a berevement may paper over a crack.. but the issue is still there.

bewilderedagain · 09/09/2013 17:10

For what it's worth I don't think I have seen any silly suggestions except for the one that someone on ads should not be working in mental health.

Do you think that people that work in mental health should never have any of their own problems?

You seem to be implying that I have gone into work in a state of mind that would have a detrimental effect on our service users. Can you tell me how you have come to that conclusion? (I am genuinely interested)

Just to make you squirm further ...not only do I work in mental health but I have a position in management.

You seem to be very defensive.

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bewilderedagain · 09/09/2013 17:15

I care for my mental health by among other things ...taking ads. I also eat well, exercise, try to get enough sleep and factor nice things into my week.

I care for my physical health by doing much the same....except swap the ads for blood pressure meds.

You seem to have a skewed view of what having a mental health condition means.

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AnyFucker · 09/09/2013 17:18

I would consider someone who has experience of MH issues to be in a very good position to work in the MH arena, actually. BA, you don't need to justify a thing.

Jag, go and start a thread about fat dieticians or summat. I am sure you can work yourself up into a froth about that too.

bewilderedagain · 09/09/2013 17:20

Fat dieticians?? Surely not Shock

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AnyFucker · 09/09/2013 17:29

I knew a very fat dietician once. She was lovely, and she gave sterling advice. Stick that in your judging pipe and smoke it, jag Wink

bewilderedagain · 09/09/2013 17:30

I know quite a few ever so slightly insane psychiatrists Grin

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AnyFucker · 09/09/2013 17:31

Oh, and I also knew a dietician with anorexia.

Bloody hell, it's all coming back to me now

For the record, I am not a dietician.

AnyFucker · 09/09/2013 17:32

I know loooooads of unhealthy doctors, dentists with bad teeth, unfit physiotherapists, librarians that don't read, Morrison's shop assistants that shop at Asda

blah blah blah

GurlwiththeCurl · 09/09/2013 18:43

Have never, ever met a librarian who doesn't read - we are all addicted!

AnyFucker · 09/09/2013 18:46

There's always one Wink

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