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Tactless stepmother. How to handle ???

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plumpjuicyraspberry · 16/08/2013 09:21

She isn't known for her tact. Her communications skills are rubbish especially by email and phone and she often says awful things. I don't think she means harm but some are awful. Example - when I had my dd2 - she said "oh what another girl?"

When I was going back to work after Dd1 reluctantly full time (bearing in mind she stopped work when pregnant and never returned ) she said - "oh that will be dreadful. You will never cope".

We are visiting soon and I'm not far off returning work after dd2. I am dreading the comments about my working pattern and childcare arrangements (by full time this time but still).

Im massively sensitive about this all. I'm dreading going back and any negative comments from anyone will be hard to take.

How do I handle this without being incredibly rude.

She really has no idea how lucky she was that my dad enabled her to stay at home with the kids.

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itsBeer0cl0ck · 16/08/2013 17:23

plumpjuicyraspberry well, changing the way I reacted to these types of negative &/or toxic / draining people didn't happen the moment I left my x unfortunately. I knew when I left him that I'd had enough of him and would never again tolerate a romantic relationship that wasn't loving and supportive, but I wasn't watching out to see that I didn't accidentally repeat that pattern with another person. Not even a friend as it happens, but there was somebody in my life who would regularly criticise me with a smile on his face. It's hard to explain really.

Anyway, I had psychotherapy along the way. funnily enough, one of the things that made me cut off this person was when he said to me that my therapy hadn't worked. How he thought he was equipped to be the judge of something like that I don't know. But I realised there was a lesson I wasn't learning. What is the lesson I need to learn here? And I answered myself differently finally. Instead of telling myself to 'show him!' with a clever answer, my inner voice told me to just drop the rope and walk away. metaphorically, physically, literally. It depends who in your life the person is. For me it was easy. All I've had to put up with is emails trying to re-establish some sort of contact.

I must be a bit thick though. I didn't notice that I reacted around this man in a similar way to how I reacted to my x's drama baits and criticisms. I left my x, and I was free, and yet somehow I 'attracted' through my own defensive personality, a similar dynamic , although luckily the relationship was a peripheral one in my life. I hope that this makes sense!

So, how did I change my reaction? Well, I guess I finally finally finally just GOT it. I had a eureka moment. I stopped trying to prove myself to other people. I developed a thicker skin and really truly started to believe that mantra "what you think of me is none of my business!". It's an on going thing, I remind myself still occasionally 'what you think of me is none of my business!". The psychotherapy did help enormously though. I didn't even see it at the time. It was only in the year after the psychotherapy when life had gradually thrown various curve balls at me and I saw with hindsight that I had the power to under react if you see what I mean. I saw that sometimes, racing to defend yourself only feeds another person's entitled belief that you need their approval.

Let me link a page that REALLY dotted the eyes and crossed the tees for me. I was already 50% there when I found this page, and then I read this page twenty times a day for about a month. It was no chore to keep reading it. I found I was drawn back to it. I still have it stored on my favourites bar!!

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itsBeer0cl0ck · 16/08/2013 17:27

here you go Raspberry!

Now, I'm not saying your stepmum is 'toxic' but that's not the point here really. If the dynamic between the pair of you (and for that matter the dynamic between you and any other critical person is upsetting you, then this page will help you to under react. Which seems like being a doormat at first. It did to me. but smile through it and then watch as they feel powerless that they can no longer get a rise out of you. That their words slide off you. That you are now so self-confident and content that you see through their attempt to cut you down to size.

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itsBeer0cl0ck · 16/08/2013 17:42

ps, I hope I'm not overwhelming you with info here, but obviously, it was easier for me to really believe {inside} the mantra "what you think of me is none of my business" when I'd been away from my x for a while.

When I'd had space to think think about what I wanted, and sorry to be so LA here, referring to my psychotherapy again, but after I'd learnt to distinguish better between what I wanted, and what I felt other people wanted me to want (which were the same at one point, or very blurred, overlapped anyway) after I'd had the headspace to figure out some of that stuff it became easier to believe that what other toxic people might be thnking about me is none of my business!

When somebody else is draining you by being a grumpy critical arse, it's very difficult to 'grow'. You are a nervous wreck. You are anaesthetised. You can't 'grow'. You just operate on auto-pilot. Of course, from the other person/people's perspective, being a negative /grumpy / critical asshole can be a very effective stress-relieving coping mechanism !! so bully for them that they found such a great valve for their own insecurities and discontent.

Look after yourself. I have spent six years looking at articles on line to do with this kind of stuff and the site I linked to is a good one. I'm not encouraging you to label everybody in your life toxic! you don't have to. The point is not them. The point is YOU. and I think this site is a particularly good one that focuses not just on identifying these characters but how to deal with them!

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plumpjuicyraspberry · 16/08/2013 18:02

Thanks for your posts it'sbeer. Grin

I will read in more detail when I've got double bath/bedtime out of the way and have my Friday night glass of something :)

Will come back after

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pommedechocolat · 16/08/2013 18:09

My MIL does the 'innocent but hurtful' thing ina ctions not words. it is SO hard to pull them up on it. Impossible in fact. Grr grr grr.

God when you have children families are so complicated.

I would limit contact to a minimum. Could you meet up just with your dad a lot of the time?

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pommedechocolat · 16/08/2013 18:10

and FIL did the whole poor child at nursery thing with dd1 as well. She was 7 months and going to start 1 day a week. ONE DAY.

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plumpjuicyraspberry · 16/08/2013 19:57

It'sbeer.
Thanks so much for taking the time to post your story and the link.
I've read both and it's very interesting. It resonates so deeply in many ways.

As its already been said earlier in the thread, if feel more able to relate to this with my H than the SM.

She probably isn't being nice and I will respond very differently to her now (or will try to!). However I see her so infrequently that I can gloss over her.

Right from when she and my father married and had kids they always did everything as a group. It's like he needed defending. Whether that was his choice or hers I don't know. Probably hers. I have seen him alone but not much and via my request or engineering.

H however- I can really relate to this and how he behaves towards me.

I'm wondering if a shift in my response to him will make a big difference in our relationship. The point about having a supportive & loving relationship is bouncing around my head. He would say he is both those things but I don't feel supported or loved really. If I have a work issue- I can't just chat about it. He wants to tell me how to handle it and if I don't follow his advice he gets shirty. Quite often his advice isn't appropriate because his work environment is so different to mine. He doesn't get that. And when that upsets me, he's even more unpleasant.

Oh sorry for verbal D&V. It's good to articulate this stuff.

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plumpjuicyraspberry · 16/08/2013 19:59

Pomme- thanks

I will probably not see much of them til the Xmas period after the next visit so contact is limited.

That comment by your FiL re 1 d/ week at nursery is effing awful. Sad for you.

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itsBeer0cl0ck · 16/08/2013 20:14

Sounds like he hasn't got the emotional intelligence to be able to support you! Even when he's 'advising you' what he really seems to want is your admiration? or your respect? "thank you for your superior wisdom, now, that's that sorted, let's get back to meeting your needs husband".

It's so painful to be in a relationship where you can't just chat about what's upsetting you. YOU work in this field, YOU can judge what tactics are appropriate, and yet he doesn't trust your judgement about the appropriateness of different methods of dealing with YOUR colleagues. And when you get upset that he doesn't respect your insider knowledge on that score, he gets cross with you!!!! I can see why he thinks that that is supportive, but really, it is worse than staring at a blank wall all evening trying to figure out on your own what the best way of dealing with things is!

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plumpjuicyraspberry · 16/08/2013 20:30

That's exactly what it's like it'sbeer !

I feel different already just reading the posts and your article.

He's just come home and instead of worrying what's he going to think of dinner/ state of house etc. I just don't really care. Feels liberating Grin

Let's see how it goes !!

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plumpjuicyraspberry · 19/08/2013 17:54

So update

SM didn't say anything but visibly sucked in breath at me working 4d. Angry

The highlight thoughBrew was them not remembering how old dd2 is. Is she 5 months ? No she is fucking 9months.

Is it that hard to remember your grand children's birthday ? Is that unreasonable?

I feel like a very irrelevant member of the family AngryAngry

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