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Is there any hope for our marriage?

92 replies

RollOnTheWeekend · 05/08/2013 15:49

I am a married man with a three year old child. My wife and I met when we were very young and I always envisaged us being married and having a family together. For a long while my wife did not want to have children, but eventually she changed her mind and we had our son when we were in our mid 30s. We are now both coming up to 40.

Prior to having our DS we were both really busy working people. I work in a professional job and my wife was had a management job in a council. However, once we had our son it all seemed to go wrong. I love him, but I think he has taken over our lives and our relationship seems to be heading for breakdown.

I feel as if my wife cut me out of decisions to do with parenting for the first two years. She breastfed him as a baby and as a toddler, far longer than I wanted, and I think it got in the way of our relationships (my relationship with him and mine with her) as he was always going to her. She would also wait with him upstairs until he went to sleep, rather than trying to get him to bed earlier so we could be together in the evenings. This went on for ages, although he goes to bed ok now without any problems.

Through all this I was working long hours and felt increasingly fed up that my wife hadn't gone back to work after maternity leave. She had applied for part-time working and they had turned her down, so we agreed that she should leave her job as there was no way that we could manage my hours and her old full-time hours, plus look after a baby. However, I felt that she wasn't really making much effort in the meantime to find something else, as jobs in her field tend to just come up once a year. We had a nursery place, but had to defer it for a year when she did not go back to work. There wasn't any other childcare in the area that we were happy with. So in that year she was just living in a bubble of taking our son out to baby groups and activities, doing volunteering and all the while I was supporting her. During that time I told her that I was having doubts about the relationship, but she didnt do much to put things right.

I have a professional job and a high salary (100k plus) and it annoys me that my wife, at the end of that year, went back to work on a lower salary, even though the job is part time (3 days per week). She often says that she really enjoys her job and likes the fact that it is far more flexible than her old job, so she can do nursery pickups etc, but I still feel that she is not really contributing much. Again, she is doing 'what she likes' and I am subsidising her. She pays about £1k into the currrent account each month, but I pay much more and also contribute to savings, which are almost all put in there by me - apart from an inheritance of hers.

She doesn't do that much around the house, as often I come home from work and there are still toys around and our sons things out when I just want to sit down and relax. She does do housework, but i think she does things inefficiently and expects me to pick up the pieces.

Sometimes I feel as if she thinks of our son first and doesn't think of me at all. I just don't seem to figure in what is important, it is all about 'her'. Our sex life has dwindled and I have asked her to dress up etc, but she doesn't seem keen.

She is well-educated, but I sometimes think that she says stupid things just to annoy me. She will come out with something 'funny' or forget things that I have told her and I think she is being deliberately provoking. This makes me feel very stressed. I tell her not to be stupid, but she then tells me I am being aggressive and shouting. I think that she likes to make out that she is the victim in all this.

I don't know what to do as I think she is looking for a way out.

OP posts:
Dahlen · 05/08/2013 15:56

If this is for real Hmm, I'd say you're right - she's looking for a way out.

(Maybe she wants someone she feels is capable of putting a child's needs before his own; someone who doesn't measure another's worth by how much they earn, but what they do.)

OrangeLily · 05/08/2013 15:57

What are you doing around the house? What are you doing about your sex life (apart from asking her to 'dress up'?)

Personally 1k a month sounds like a decent amount to be contributing to the joint account if she is only working part time.

Sorry if I've judged this unfairly but you seem to expect her to do all housework efficiently, work and earn a large amount, put you first instead of your child, remember everything you say and never have a relaxed/jokey attitude. Are you perhaps expecting too much?

Boosterseat · 05/08/2013 15:59

I have a professional job and a high salary (100k plus) and it annoys me that my wife, at the end of that year, went back to work on a lower salary, even though the job is part time (3 days per week). She often says that she really enjoys her job and likes the fact that it is far more flexible than her old job, so she can do nursery pickups etc, but I still feel that she is not really contributing much. Again, she is doing 'what she likes' and I am subsidising her. She pays about £1k into the currrent account each month, but I pay much more and also contribute to savings, which are almost all put in there by me - apart from an inheritance of hers.

Shock Do you not consider taking care of your child contributing?

She often says that she really enjoys her job and likes the fact that it is far more flexible than her old job, so she can do nursery pickups etc, but I still feel that she is not really contributing much. Again, she is doing 'what she likes' and I am subsidising her

How the FUCK is pick up and drop off whatever the fuck she likes?

To be honest you sound a total prick

Don your hazmat suit and prepare for a flaming.........

pinkyredrose · 05/08/2013 15:59

I wouldn't blame her if she was looking for a way out. You're not 'subsidising' her, you're supporting your family. She also 'subsidises' you if you want to look at it like that by looking after your child, saving nursery fees and enabling you to progress in your career.

You don't seem to value her at all. I wouldn't blame her if she left you for someone who appreciates what she does and isn't so money obsessed.

Leviticus · 05/08/2013 16:01

Not if you continue to shout at her, put her down and criticise her best efforts as a mother.

Feckssake · 05/08/2013 16:03

Wow. Just wow. Is this for real? You earn over £100k, and you're griping because she puts in 'only' £1k a month for joint expenses, which I bet is a huge proportion of her take home salary as a part-timer? The house is 'inefficiently' cleaned? Really? REALLY? You are shouting at her because she occasionally forgets things while she runs a toddler, a household and a part-time job?

I really really hope she is looking for a way out. You sound unbearable.

caramelwaffle · 05/08/2013 16:04

Yes; there is hope for your marriage but only if you change your mindset. That will take a lot of work on your part.

RollOnTheWeekend · 05/08/2013 16:05

She puts all her salary into the joint account, then takes back £350 for her personal expenditure.

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welshharpy · 05/08/2013 16:08

So looking after your child, organising her part time job around drop off/pick up times and also contributing a grand a month is not enough for you? Tell me, how has your working life changed around the needs of your child?? Jeez your wife must really feel pissed off if you treat her like she is a drain on you. No wonder she doesnt want to shag you.

GetStuffezd · 05/08/2013 16:09

To be honest, OP, you sound like you don't really like her very much. And that your income is very much your money.

Lazy? Stupid? I feel sorry for her.

pinkyredrose · 05/08/2013 16:12

Op what is your personal expenditure?

Feckssake · 05/08/2013 16:13

And how much do you 'take back' for your personal expenditure? Am I guessing correctly that it's a multiple of that £350? My point is that if you're living somewhere like London, £350 is actually bugger all for even out of pocket expenses. £1k is a huge contribution in that context, given that it's probably leaving her pretty tight for casual income.

If my husband was earning somewhere north of £100k and I was looking after the child and house, as well as sacrificing career development for a while, I would certainly not expect to be contributing to the joint pot at that level.

MrBusterIPresume · 05/08/2013 16:15

Maybe your wife felt that she had to move to a lower-earning, more flexible job because that's the only way she could also manage to keep on top of all the childcare and domestic work without going nuts you seem to think should be solely her responsibility?

Have you ever worked flexible hours and juggled childcare? Have you ever had to stop work at a particular time, regardless of whether you'd finished everything that needed to be done, met all your deadlines, held up your end with colleagues, so that you could rush off to pick up a child? How on earth is any of that doing "what you like"?

I'm rather sensitised to this, as I suspect my H could easily write something along the lines of your post. All very plausible on the surface, until you realise it's all "Why isn't someone looking after poor meeeee?".

Question, OP. What do you do (besides earning money) to look after your wife?

Feckssake · 05/08/2013 16:17

Mr Buster, I think all of MN is 'sensitised' on this one. It's like OP travelled back in time to the fifties and dictated a peeved memo to us all. Somebody find the man's slippers and pipe, please.

welshfirsttimemummy · 05/08/2013 16:18

I think that if you looked after your child all day every day you would see its not as easy as you are making out. And I don't see how it's you're decision how long she breastfed your child for? She was doing what she thought was best. Also, surely if you are married with a child your income is there to support your family, what else do you want to do with your 100k a year?? I can tell you that if my DH earnt that amount of money I would happily stay home and look after our DS, and my DH would be much happier knowing our son was being raised and looked after by me. Try being more understanding! Seems like this "family life" you imagined isn't quite what you thought it would be, and in fact YOU are the one looking for issues and a way out.

Ikeameatballs · 05/08/2013 16:21

Is this some sort of reverse relationships post, like reverse Aibu?

glastocat · 05/08/2013 16:22

Are you for real? Sounds to me like you are looking for an out, and I reckon your poor bloody wife might be better off without you. What exactly do you bring to this marriage except demands and expectations?(and cash).

Armadale · 05/08/2013 16:22

Possibly she is looking for a way out, I would be-

I would not want to live with someone who did not consider raising our child to be an important job.

I would not want to live with someone who was jealous of our child.

I would not want to live with someone who made a joint decision with me that local childcare wasn't that suitable and that I should look after our child for a year and then complain that I was ' living in a bubble of taking our son out'.

I would not want to to live with someone who didn't understand even the rudiments of what it is like to look after a young child e.g. thinking that they could also clean the house in the day i.e. do 2 jobs rather than one simultaneously.

I would not want to live with someone who considered his wife deciding to sacrifice prestige, monetary reward and future career prospects

I would not want to live with someone who tells me I'm stupid.

I would not want to live with someone who is emotionally abusive - shouting at me and being aggressive.

More than anything I wouldn't want to live with someone so overwhelmingly short of insight that they would say 'once we had our son it all seemed to go wrong. I love him, but I think he has taken over our lives' with no sense of irony whatsoever.

What on earth did you think was going to happen? You would have the baby and put them in a cupboard and carry on as normal?

The only hope for me in a situation like this would be for my partner to change massively and immediately. And even then I'm not sure I would stay.

MrBusterIPresume · 05/08/2013 16:23

I'd like to think so, Ikeameatballs, but sadly there really are men like that out there. The sense of entitlement is staggering.

ineedtogetoutmore · 05/08/2013 16:23

this has got to be a reverse aibu

Armadale · 05/08/2013 16:23

Sorry a line got lost...
"who considered his wife deciding to sacrifice prestige, monetary reward and future career prospects to look after our child to be 'annoying' and 'not contributing much'

RollOnTheWeekend · 05/08/2013 16:24

I don't exactly add up what I spend and don't spend too much on myself, but if I want a gadget or something I just put a bit less into savings that month. I am basically paying for everything, my wife's salary hardly covers the childcare.

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Chubfuddler · 05/08/2013 16:24

This can't be real. No one could write this and think, I am in the right, poor me, I'll ask a bunch of mothers what they think my wife should be doing to improve things for poor likkle meeeeee.

glastocat · 05/08/2013 16:25

Off topic but are you in Perth, Armadale?

marthastew · 05/08/2013 16:25

If I were her I wouldn't be looking for a way out, I'd be running to the emergency exit.