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DP got handjob off his male BF

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ohfuckkk · 15/07/2013 20:38

Namechanged (hopefully). Here goes..

My DP of ten years (no DC, no problems - i think) has confessed to me this weekend that when extremely drunk staying at his mates house a couple of weeks ago he 'came too' and his openly gay (our mutual) friend was wanking him off.

He says he can't remember much else as they were both drunk, his friend stopped mid-flow because he (DP) wasn't aroused.

WHAT THE F am i meant to think?

OP posts:
milbracat · 16/07/2013 14:31

Jan45 I think what would be more likely in the scenario as described by the OP is that the OP's partner's zip being undone.

I think whether it is assault or not is entirely the perogative of the man in question, not on MNers who weren't there to speculate on. Also, this was a "friend" not some random stranger in a dark alley and therefore he might consider a drunken "event" is not worth spoiling the relationship over. It seems to me the OP might have been happier if her partner had beaten the friend to a pulp once he had "come to" and knew what was happening.

It might even be the case that the friend has in this instance made an error of judgement in his drunken state and made the mistake that the OP's partner might be up for some "fun".

A while ago, a gay couple moved in next door to us. They seem nice enough, but as I don't feel I have anything in common with them and conversation between us soon dries up. DH on the other hand is really friendly and chatty with them and took them out for a meal. DH wanted me and DCs to come as well, I but felt it would be awkward for the rest of us. Some time after the couple invited DH to a bar and something they called a "bring a bear night". DH went and later said that although they knew he was straight, he did find himself being touched and was propositioned to a few time and it took some getting used to.

The incident the OP's partner had was probably be a one-off.

Bluegrass · 16/07/2013 15:03

"Also, this was a "friend" not some random stranger in a dark alley and therefore he might consider a drunken "event" is not worth spoiling the relationship over."

Sounds like exactly the sort of thing someone would use to minimise the experience of so called "date rape" (otherwise known as "rape" to you and me), it being allegedly 'not as bad' if it is done by someone you know and trust and so not worth making a fuss about Confused

Jan45 · 16/07/2013 15:24

milbracat - good points.

Bluegrass - nobody is disputing rape as a terrible crime, we are basing our comments on the assumption that this was not rape.

ITCouldBeWorse · 16/07/2013 16:30

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ohfuckkk · 16/07/2013 17:10

Thanks so much for all the replies. I am glad that this has opened up a debate about victims of abuse and what constitutes abuse.

In this case though, I have asked DP straight and he says he wasn't abused. He was also out with lads and friend last week (before I knew about this) and says the friend apologised and then moved on but things are strained.

I can keep asking him if he was abused but I'm sure he will keep saying no - not sure where that leaves me.

DP has had a one night stand about four years ago which we worked through. At the time he told me she came onto him forcefully while drunk (yeah right) then it transpired that they had also had sex the following day twice sober. We are over it but this is in my mind again now.

OP posts:
Jan45 · 16/07/2013 17:16

Understandably, can see why it's in your mind again, he appears to get into some dodgy situations when under the influence, he also seems pretty inconsistent with the truth.

I wouldn't bring it up again if I was you, it sounds like you'll never really know the truth.

I'm curious, did he tell you about the one night stand or did you find out?

ohfuckkk · 16/07/2013 17:32

He told me about the one night but I found out about the next day and he looked shady when confronted but admitted it all in the end.

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Southeastdweller · 16/07/2013 17:33

I think that if he's bi or gay then you would have had an inkling before now and that both of them weren't quite as drunk as some posters on here are suggesting. He was probably what's known as 'bi-curious' and wanted the contact with another man combined with sexual relief but didn't want to do anyting too 'gay' if you see what I mean. A handjob to some men doesn't count.

If it were me I'd have to press on to find out more, from the friend.

BloomingRose · 16/07/2013 18:23

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Wowserz129 · 16/07/2013 18:36

It is a possibility he consented and feels bad about it so told you but made it sound like he wasn't fully with it because that would mean he had cheated. I don't think anyone here can judge fully whether it is assault or not because no-one knows if he is being 100% truthful with OP. If he is saying that 100% is isn't assault which means it was consensual then it sounds like a drunken experiment. It seems off to me that a man who is his best friend would pull down his trousers and give him a hand job whilst he is not with it. Either way OP you are going to decide how much you are okay with why happened.

XiCi · 16/07/2013 20:31

Why is everyone going on and on about assualt when the OP has very clearly said 3 times that her DH has insisted it was not assault.
Also, can't belive the poster that said hand jobs to some men don't count! WTF is that supposed to mean. Straight men do not get hand jobs from their mates IME
OP he is trying to tell you something about his sexuality here, listen to him.

scottishmummy · 16/07/2013 20:34

Op said he's been vague,it's unclear he gave consent,if no consent it's assault

tittytittyhanghang · 16/07/2013 20:41

OP, can you ask your dp if he consented and would he be able to give a yes/no answer? This is surely the crux of what happened and would help you/him understand better?

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