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My DH has had an emotional affair

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bullinthesea · 18/06/2013 14:52

Hello,

I don't post very much, but I am a frequent lurker!

Sadly, I have discovered that my DH has been having an emotional affair with a woman at his work. I have met her a few times over the years, and have always liked her! (Not any more!).

He was supporting me through a nasty bout of depression, and she was also having problems with family illness etc, and it seems they got too close, whilst chatting. He has always been the type to help others out. I think perhaps his 'knight in shining armour' came out when he came across this 'damsel in distress'!

There were emails/Facebook messages/texts, (the texts were all deleted, but in plain sight on our joint itemised bill!).

I discovered the whole lot on Friday night, and confronted him on Saturday morning.

I told him to sit down and tell me the truth. He says that it was just a load of flirty e-mails, and that he knew it was wrong when he was doing it, that it had all fizzled out and that he regretted it. He was very remorseful, and asked whether I could ever forgive him. I told him it was about being able to trust him again.

I found comments such as

Him "I must have been on your mind, was this email meant for Mr X?"
Her "you're always on my mind"
Him "mmmmmmmmmmmmmm!"

And

Her "thank you for earlier, I feel a lot better now !!"
Him "yeah, me too, can meet up on Wednesday for a follow up if it helps :)"

Her "is there anything else I can do for you"
Him "there may be a couple of things that may rise up"

Him " look at you working on xyz"
Her "can never be too prepared?"
Him "I am always prepared!"

She also kept asking him about his knees, on one occasion, they were organising some work time, and he responded with:
Him "should be good"
Her " what do you mean, SHOULD......... Are your knees hurting?"
Him "no, they have recovered, it's my calf, I pulled it running this morning"

Another message went:
Her "how are your knees and feet now"
Him "well, no carpet burns! How are you, we,ve been thinking about you?"

Then there was the time about six months ago, when he was having some funny turns. He had to spend the day at hospital having tests. He had already phoned into work, to tell them that he wouldn't be in that day, and yet I discovered that he'd emailed her from the hospital, to tell her about the tests and said that it was scary, there were loads of exclamation marks at the end (and on lots of the other emails too). He then emailed her again later about the results, with the same message that he had texted to me a few minutes prior, but he'd added extra exclamation marks on hers.

A lot of the content of these emails (and some others that I haven't written about) suggests that things may have got physical.

He strongly denies that it got physical, and says that he doesn't even find her physically attractive. He has said that it was exciting, and that she had made him feel good, as it had felt like she wanted him. He also told me that she had tried to kiss him at an Xmas do a few years ago, but he didn't kiss back, and had thought it was odd.

I asked if he thought she might have a bit of a thing for him, and he paused and said, "yeah, probably".

I have told him that I am going to get tested for STIs, just in case, as I'm not sure I can believe what he's telling me, and want to be sure that I haven't caught anything.

We both cried a lot, and he buried his head in my lap and told me he was so sorry over and over.

I do love him very much, and feel that we became distant, (although things had been much better recently), that we need to focus on our marriage much more (he agreed) and do our best to recover the strong love that we always used to have.

Only thing is, if it did get physical, then I would have to end the relationship.

I am so confused, I can barely concentrate on anything, and I haven't a clue where I'd start if I suddenly found myself single - I'm a sahm, my son is 7, and I am not bringing in any income at the moment, so he supports us all financially.

I just don't know what to do next.....

OP posts:
YoniMatopoeia · 29/06/2013 21:42

Have you thought about what you want to happen now?

You don't have to make any decisions.. in fact now is not a great time for making decisions.

The standard advice, which I agree with, is to ask him to go and stay somewhere else for a week, to give you some space and headroom.

You also need some rl support. Maybe the friend you mentioned earlier?

onefewernow · 30/06/2013 00:03

Bull, can I say from experience that you will know in hindsight when it started. My H was online securing for over 5 years and I couldn't out my finger on it.

When I finally got really suspicious and forced a confession out of him, I asked about a particular weekend away we had, when it had always stuck in my mind that he was suddenly talking about us "being adrift and in different paths". He had started earlier that month.

Just think back.

Oh and expect your depression to date from around the same time.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 30/06/2013 00:58

You won't follow your mum's advice though. You are beyond that initial shock and even when you first wrote here, you knew a physical affair would cross a line. Loving him a great deal wasn't enough for him. To what length are you meant to go when he throws it back in your face? He gave little thought to you or DS. He took one step then another, all by himself.

ChipsNEggs · 30/06/2013 06:21

I'm so sorry its come to this but glad you have the truth.

Why is it we always hear that a woman has to fight for her man and never the other way round?

Didn't come out in all those open and honest chats you had though did it? You thought you were both opening your souls and he was lying through his teeth. Everything he said was bollocks.

No man is a prize worth fighting and debasing yourself over, especially this one. He has been proven to be a liar and a cheat. I'd put money on him already trying to twist this so you're to blame too.

What makes it worse is he was obviously very worried something would come up on the STI test. I'd be surprised if she was the only one and he clearly hasn't been using protection. He wasn't sorry at all when putting your health at risk.

He sounds like utter scum, you and your DS would benefit from not being around such a self centered individual.

You sound like a lovely caring person and you deserve so much more.

AgathaF · 30/06/2013 06:29

Really sorry your fears have turned out to be true. It's a shame you mum hasn't been more supportive in helping you find out what you want to do about this.

YoniMatopoeia · 30/06/2013 07:39

Just in case he is following the script, and has started to blame you (and pretty much all of them try this)

THIS WAS NOT YOUR FAULT.

It is very common that the straying partner comes out with stuff like 'you seemed really distant', 'you were concentrating so much on the dc, you had no attention for me' etc etc. To try to justify their actions. You have to remember at all times that it was him, not you. Nothing you did, or did not do caused him to have this affair. It was all his choice.

Thisisaeuphemism · 30/06/2013 08:03

Hope you are ok.

Wowserz129 · 30/06/2013 08:29

OP this man sounds like a manipulative cheating coward. At best he needs to leave your home for a few weeks to give you space to decide what to do. Please don't let him get away with it. Hope your okay Hmm

clam · 30/06/2013 09:28

I wouldn't "fight for" some low-life cheating bastard who took my feelings and loyalty and stamped on them with both feet. How can you ever get that back?

lottieandmia · 30/06/2013 09:33

I cannot believe the 1950's attitude from the OP's mother. As if you just have to put up and shut up and hope he doesn't leave Shock

'Why is it we always hear that a woman has to fight for her man and never the other way round?' I totally agree. The OP deserves better and her DH is the one who should be fighting for her.

lazarusb · 30/06/2013 12:38

Unfortunately some people still view men/husbands as a 'prize'. My cousin's h left her suddenly with 2 young children about 18 months ago. Every single person (including her) held the view that he should come back, no matter what he'd done, without any recriminations, because the most important thing was them being back together.

All the time I was telling her about securing herself financially, getting checked for STIs etc. He came back after a couple of months 'away' in another town. He spent 2 nights on the sofa, then he was back in the marital bed.

Everyone (except me) was happy. Nothing has been challenged and therefore nothing has been resolved. My cousin is on eggshells trying to be 'perfect'. I've just posted this to illustrate that your Mum's opinion isn't unusual, no matter the generation, but I do feel it is unhealthy. I hope my cousin is truly happy but I can't help feeling that this will crash down to earth at some point.

Take care OP. You have a lot of people supporting you here.

Wellwobbly · 30/06/2013 15:56

Now do the next thing I did not do (which let him know he had gotten away with it according to IC) - ask him to leave, because you have some thinking to do.

AnyFucker · 30/06/2013 17:04

I am very sorry, OP.

Pinkdaisy4 · 30/06/2013 22:28

I'm so sorry OP. nothing to add but these Flowers and my hand to hold.

newbiefrugalgal · 30/06/2013 22:58

Sorry OP that news sucks.

Hope he has left the home this weekend to give you the space you need.

Want to hear my dads reaction when I told him about my partners affair? 'These things happen.'
That was it! Bloody hell no they don't just happen!

onefewernow · 01/07/2013 08:53

Family can be useless when you are in this sort of situation. My sisters were all " it's no big deal, get over it" after a few weeks. My brother was all for me leaving, then I heard he was having an affair himself.

Take your own counsel. To be fair, most affair advisers don't actually know what they are talking about, and their advice just stems from how they would imagine they would act in your situation. That, or what they think is in their own interests, sometimes, especially parents.

I hope you are coping today, OP.

lovesfastcars · 01/07/2013 10:03

My mum was the same. She was actually more bothered about what people would 'think' I reckon.
Filter out any crap advice if you can, and do whatever feels right for you, at your own pace.
Come back and let us know you're ok if you can
X

DonutForMyself · 01/07/2013 10:05

Your family have a vested interest in keeping the family together, there's none of that awkward 'taking sides' business and they won't have to worry about who to send Xmas cards to and who gets invited to family occasions, they can just merrily go on exactly the same as before without it affecting their daily life if you stay together.

For you its a totally different matter as you are living with this every day of your life. They don't understand and tbh, they don't matter. If they're not there for 100% unwavering support they can piss off.

Its awful that at a time when you need your mum to be there for you, she has let you down, but there are others (including the lovely MNers) who will hold your hand and give you advice regardless of the path you choose, because they want you to do what is best for you, not your cheating lying ex or your mum.

skyeskyeskye · 01/07/2013 11:38

bull - I am sorry that it has come to this, but it was obvious from the emails that it had crossed the line... but while your H continued to lie, of course you wanted to believe him.

My Xh walked out and I begged him to come back, even after discovering thousands of texts/emails, because I was in a state of shock. I think if I had discovered the texts first, it would have been a different story...

It is your marriage and only YOU can decide what you want to do next. I think that you do need to ask him to leave while you decide what you want. That is good advice from people who have been there. You need time to process what has happened.

ChloeR32 · 01/07/2013 12:03

I agree with everyone else - and as horrible as it is to say - I think that there is some pre-emptive 'cover-up' going on; rather than go all out with full sexual references they simply alluded to activities that he could then attempt to wiggle out of by saying it was all innocent. The effect of that is that you are left questioning what really went on and the part of you that doesn't want it to be true starts to believe that he's telling the truth.
I agree with most other posters though - an EA is sometimes as destructive as a physical one and I think you know what the truth is. Its just too hard to believe.
Its up to you to do what you think is best and no matter the advice give (great though it is) follow what you want - it might end up in the crapper - but at least its been your choice.
Also - from one who didn't do this - make a stand for independence and get a part-time job it will really open up your world. i only did this recently after 14yrs and i wish I'd done it earlier.
Good luck
C x

sureitis · 01/07/2013 16:34

Thinking of you OP. Cannot imagine what you're going through at the moment.

Make sure you do what is right for you and not what is right for everyone else. You have to live this life, no one else.

bullinthesea · 02/07/2013 15:14

Just a little update.

He says all the sex happened before I got ill, so it was a few years ago.

Trouble is, all those e-mails have been going on ever since, and I struggle to believe they weren't referencing sexual encounters.
The ones I found (mentioned in my first post) were quite recent. I think he's trying to minimise the extent of it, and that it's been going on for years.

I even suspect that it might have been happening when I was pregnant, but can't be sure (DS is 7).

So what he's trying to say, is that - it was physical - then they stopped but carried on sending sexually suggestive e-mails in the years afterwards - he had no feelings for her - yet he was emailing her from his hospital appointment - he didn't enjoy the sex, yet he went back more than once....

Also, she sent a present when my son was born - I thought it a bit odd, and said at the time that I didn't realise he knew her that well for her to get a nice gift like that. It's been up on my sons wall all these years Hmm not any more though.

It just doesn't add up really.

OP posts:
DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 02/07/2013 15:19

I'm sure he has an answer for everything. It just may be neither truthful nor accurate.

From your first post on this thread:
I asked if he thought she might have a bit of a thing for him, and he paused and said, "yeah, probably"

Breathtaking.

MadAboutHotChoc · 02/07/2013 15:33

Bloody hell - so he has been having an affair for several years? Shock

So sorry OP. I don't think I could ever come back from such a massive betrayal - such a terrible headfuck to realise all those years were a sham.

AgathaF · 02/07/2013 15:44

So he's carried on his affair for years - emotionally and initially (if he is to be believed) physically. And even when the physical stuff stopped (yeah, right!), he still needed to be emotionally connected to her. He happily received a gift for your son and allowed it to be put up on the wall.

Has this man no conscience or morals?

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